You better show some sauce for your allegations against the mormon church.
If you do some research you will find that the leadership of the church, if they are rich, they were before being leaders. So do tell how they are getting rich? Secret society leaders. Bah humbug!
What do they have to do with this movie anyway. I think nothing! Just more propaganda against Christians
I have and Joseph Smith was a pedophile so was Brigham Young also both were adulterers. The TRUE roots of Mormonism are completely disgusting. The problem is they are hidden from you. This is coming from a life-long Mormon and temple goer and former missionary. Sorry but truth is sometimes difficult to deal with.
Believe what you like. I was deacons quorum President, Eagle Scout, completed my high school seminary, was at the MTC in Provo in the late 90’s, served in the Independence, Mo mission and received my endowment at the Mesa Az temple. If that helps you hear what I’m saying.
If you have taken out your endowments, then you have willingly entered into numerous covenants with God and our Savior and you break those promises every time you tell the lies you are spouting here. You will be judged much more harshly when you face the Savior than will someone who has never known Christ's teachings or entered into covenants with him. But you already know this. I pray that you find your way again.
It sounds to me as though you have a lot of personal issues and want to blame them on other people. Did you do something that got you excommunicated or disfellowshipped? Would you even admit it if you did?
If you are all the things you claim, then you know that the day will come when you will be judged for your lies. I pray that you will set aside your anger and bitterness before it's too late.
lol I’m not angry, nor am I a liar. Not very “Christian” to judge and slander others, it’s easy to see Mormons are not true Christian’s when you challenge their beliefs. No I speak the truth always. Joseph Smith and the leadership of his church are the real liars. Good luck to you. Doesn’t it make you wonder though? What it would be like to question? Or think for yourself? Or admit you’ve been programmed? You’re in the deep matrix, you’re plugged in dude.
I suggest you dig deeper on Joseph Smith, his reputation was crushed by Brigham Young. Joseph was never a polygamist. Anything that documents that was second hand or altered document. All of Joseph Smith's supposed wives did not even mention they were his wife until after 23 years. They did so to support the temple lot case. Look it up.
Wrong. He took several wives many of whom were under the age of consent and one who was still in puberty. I’ve done the research, I’ve read the history of the times from multiple sources. Here’s a list of some of the girls he seduced and married after Emma:
I have- its a ripoff of Ethan Smith's A View of the Hebrews, calls dark skin a curse, says Native Americans are descendants of Jews; but remarkably, doesn't support polygamy in any way! In fact, calls it out as sinful!
I find the D&C far more revealing, especially section 132. Wonder why the church took other sections out (101) but maintains 132 to this very day?
Or you could just go by all the paintings of Jesus in their churches, or how they read the Bible and celebrate the life of Jesus Christ or how they never stop talking about Jesus. But yeah, totally not Christians. What ridiculous thing to say. It would be easy to confirm if you read the Bible and compare the doctrine.
A Christian is someone who believes in Christ, accepts him as our Savior, and follows his teachings. Mormons believe in the Bible, and the LDS church is actually named for Jesus. And yet you say that LDS people aren't Christians.
Do you have even the slightest clue how foolish and bigoted you look when you make stupid comments like that?
Just go do the research. Nelson and Hales, Skull and Bones. Ballard, Sigma Chi. Haight was secret society. Wirthlin. The network is incredibly deep when you look at mission presidents and area authorities.
You not believing it doesn’t change a thing. People doing the research might change the world.
They are under investigation for their corporate arm and investing tax free tithing into billions in real estate-- that mall in SLC, farmland in FL.
They say the upper clergy aren't paid, yet they receive annual stipends upward of $150k plus... I don't have time to type out the financial part-- don't forget about the LDS Adoption services, they are out of business now. I recall the Utah high ranking clergy baptizing Ted Bundy...Hoffman letters--
Best resource is their own website, LDS.org
Yes- its their Seminary class building where they study all things Mormon- colleges too. And if they don't have a building near the school, they will hold it in the local church bldg. 5 miserable mornings a week-- except in UT and maybe ID, where the get time off to go to seminary- everybody else does it BEFORE high school starts.
I think a lot more people will be drawn to the movie because Caviezel is a Catholic than the few that even register that Ballard is a Mormon let alone be drawn to Mormonism by the movie.
It’s all primary source documents that are publicly available. People just have to look. I’ve started a library at https://ldsabuse.info but can’t even keep up with that project, not to mention begging people who claim to be researchers to take 30 minutes to take a look.
You better show some sauce for your allegations against the mormon church. If you do some research you will find that the leadership of the church, if they are rich, they were before being leaders. So do tell how they are getting rich? Secret society leaders. Bah humbug!
What do they have to do with this movie anyway. I think nothing! Just more propaganda against Christians
It’s obvious you haven’t read it.
I have and Joseph Smith was a pedophile so was Brigham Young also both were adulterers. The TRUE roots of Mormonism are completely disgusting. The problem is they are hidden from you. This is coming from a life-long Mormon and temple goer and former missionary. Sorry but truth is sometimes difficult to deal with.
Again, obviously not.
Believe what you like. I was deacons quorum President, Eagle Scout, completed my high school seminary, was at the MTC in Provo in the late 90’s, served in the Independence, Mo mission and received my endowment at the Mesa Az temple. If that helps you hear what I’m saying.
Lol
If you have taken out your endowments, then you have willingly entered into numerous covenants with God and our Savior and you break those promises every time you tell the lies you are spouting here. You will be judged much more harshly when you face the Savior than will someone who has never known Christ's teachings or entered into covenants with him. But you already know this. I pray that you find your way again.
You’re the one who is lost my friend, not me. I’m free of that bs. Good luck to you.
It sounds to me as though you have a lot of personal issues and want to blame them on other people. Did you do something that got you excommunicated or disfellowshipped? Would you even admit it if you did?
If you are all the things you claim, then you know that the day will come when you will be judged for your lies. I pray that you will set aside your anger and bitterness before it's too late.
lol I’m not angry, nor am I a liar. Not very “Christian” to judge and slander others, it’s easy to see Mormons are not true Christian’s when you challenge their beliefs. No I speak the truth always. Joseph Smith and the leadership of his church are the real liars. Good luck to you. Doesn’t it make you wonder though? What it would be like to question? Or think for yourself? Or admit you’ve been programmed? You’re in the deep matrix, you’re plugged in dude.
I suggest you dig deeper on Joseph Smith, his reputation was crushed by Brigham Young. Joseph was never a polygamist. Anything that documents that was second hand or altered document. All of Joseph Smith's supposed wives did not even mention they were his wife until after 23 years. They did so to support the temple lot case. Look it up.
Wrong. He took several wives many of whom were under the age of consent and one who was still in puberty. I’ve done the research, I’ve read the history of the times from multiple sources. Here’s a list of some of the girls he seduced and married after Emma:
Fanny Alger, 16
Sarah Ann Whitney, 17
Lucy Walker, 17
Flora Ann Woodworth, 16
Emily Dow Partridge, 19
Sarah Lawrence, 17
Maria Lawrence, 19
Helen Mar Kimball, 14
Melissa Lott, 19
Nancy M. Winchester, 14
I have- its a ripoff of Ethan Smith's A View of the Hebrews, calls dark skin a curse, says Native Americans are descendants of Jews; but remarkably, doesn't support polygamy in any way! In fact, calls it out as sinful! I find the D&C far more revealing, especially section 132. Wonder why the church took other sections out (101) but maintains 132 to this very day?
Or you could just go by all the paintings of Jesus in their churches, or how they read the Bible and celebrate the life of Jesus Christ or how they never stop talking about Jesus. But yeah, totally not Christians. What ridiculous thing to say. It would be easy to confirm if you read the Bible and compare the doctrine.
Such tolerance. Beg to differ. So who made you the judge of who is a Christian and who isn't?
A Christian is someone who believes in Christ, accepts him as our Savior, and follows his teachings. Mormons believe in the Bible, and the LDS church is actually named for Jesus. And yet you say that LDS people aren't Christians.
Do you have even the slightest clue how foolish and bigoted you look when you make stupid comments like that?
Just go do the research. Nelson and Hales, Skull and Bones. Ballard, Sigma Chi. Haight was secret society. Wirthlin. The network is incredibly deep when you look at mission presidents and area authorities.
You not believing it doesn’t change a thing. People doing the research might change the world.
sourcesPlease
Did source the other statements you made.
They are under investigation for their corporate arm and investing tax free tithing into billions in real estate-- that mall in SLC, farmland in FL. They say the upper clergy aren't paid, yet they receive annual stipends upward of $150k plus... I don't have time to type out the financial part-- don't forget about the LDS Adoption services, they are out of business now. I recall the Utah high ranking clergy baptizing Ted Bundy...Hoffman letters-- Best resource is their own website, LDS.org
So, if his work is being discredited for his religion, who’s protecting the kids?
Don’t know. Hope somebody is.
Total BS post btw
4th generation mormon here and high priest Top level kek and conspiracy theorist as well
Nothing but BS here on on skull and bones and secret societies in the church
It’s literally in Russell M. Nelson’s autobiography.
And Hales’ marriage announcement.
And the Utonian yearbooks.
SMH. This place has turned into a dumpster fire. Are there ANY researchers here still?
Your appeal to authority is going to look very bad if anyone actually looks into this. https://ldsabuse.info
Anyone else notice that across from every school is a church of the lader day saints....
Yes- its their Seminary class building where they study all things Mormon- colleges too. And if they don't have a building near the school, they will hold it in the local church bldg. 5 miserable mornings a week-- except in UT and maybe ID, where the get time off to go to seminary- everybody else does it BEFORE high school starts.
I think a lot more people will be drawn to the movie because Caviezel is a Catholic than the few that even register that Ballard is a Mormon let alone be drawn to Mormonism by the movie.
“Anyhow, maybe it's nothing. “ equivalent of “earmarks of Russian disinformation”.
It’s all primary source documents that are publicly available. People just have to look. I’ve started a library at https://ldsabuse.info but can’t even keep up with that project, not to mention begging people who claim to be researchers to take 30 minutes to take a look.
Fair observation. Keep your Armor on while you’re eating popcorn.
You say these people are members of secret societies.
Well, "sources, please."
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