What is the cost of living in NH? If it's higher than AZ, that $10 won't matter much. When I was young I moved far from home and experienced extreme homesickness, so I may be falling back on that memory which is unfair to you. It's hard to start over in a new city not knowing anyone. Then again, it would be an adventure.
You might want to try visiting there in the winter before you sell everything here and leave - but yeah, I understand about wanting to get out of the heat and sun, esp after a bout with skin cancer. Since all your famliy is here, if you move up there and it doesn't work out, you will have an easier time coming back.
I won't sell everything, I'm going to move my niece into my place from California, but I have alot of toys, do I fire sell some of those? Unfortunately I have to make that decision now and can't wait until winter to see the worst of the worst, that would help clarify things I'm coming from our worst time of year to visit this place when its at most beautiful
Says AZ is 11.4% cheaper, idk from being here, just visiting and talking to my old boss, seems like it might be about the same, the liberals out here are scary but AZ has been infiltrated too with them
I’ve lived in Arizona for over 25 years. I’m kind of dying to get out of here, but where else do you go. After being in the heat for so long, I don’t think it’s a good idea to move to somewhere that has ice cold winters. It’s just not the same dealing with the different temperature elements. Snow and cold is a whole different ball game. The heat can be managed with air conditioning, you can get to where you wanna go. No problem. You just get in your car and drive. It’s not gonna happen in New Hampshire in the winter time. I have friends that on an air conditioning, HVAC company, they are killing it! If you have that skill, you should use it. Also, if your friends and family are Christians, and are based, that I highly recommend not leaving at all. You need that support system right now you absolutely need that. For so many reasons. $10 more an hour is not that much. And unless this company is paying for you to move, I would say absolutely not! Actually, I would say absolutely not anyway, and this is coming from somebody who’s lived in Arizona for 25 years and wants to leave. The last place I would move to as we’re there snow in the winter time. Pray to the Lord and ask him what he thinks you should do. That’s when you know, it’ll be a success! If God wants you to go, then go.
Amen brother, good info, there are other benefits, pick my own hours, I wanna work 4 10's and they want to let me do that, I was shocked when I heard this, not paid sick leave bc its not needed, just let em know and make it up elsewhere or don't, they only care about having coverage for the plant and bc there strongly staffed then its all good. The prospect of having my business is intriguing and frightening at the same time. I've always taken side jobs but never relied on it full time bc of the cancer thing
Well, I didn’t know you had cancer. You definitely want a job with insurance for that. However; fenbenzodole should help with that. Anyway, it’s a huge decision to make
At one time in my life, I used to work those long shifts. We worked five on, five off, two on, and two off. I don’t think it added up to 40 hours completely, I think it was 38 hours. But still. It was an awesome schedule. 810s would be perfect.
I’ve got some huge decisions to make, it is, God is on your side, it’s the right decision. Just make sure it’s really him that’s telling you to go, because if it’s not in his will, it will be a disaster. Take it from me… You don’t wanna go that route. Regrets or a bad experience in a bad feeling, and the thing is it takes a long time to get through those bad decisions.
Like you said, at your age, do you want to come back at a later time, and then try and start over.
One thing weighing on my mind, I grew up in a state that up until recently wages were garbage due to retirees moving in and taking jobs at low wages. It didn't matter to them bc of the fact that they had a retirement pension and the only they worked for were the insurance benefits so employers didn't pay much but offered good insurance benefits. It was a nightmare for so long and made it hard to make an income. I watched friends in big cities make a killing at my same age. Mentally it messed up alot of people my age and destroyed many dudes, most people my age ended up in just a party lifestyle, drugs, booze, it just wrecked my generation in this state
Oh and yeah cancer isn't just the tumor, I found out that in actually cuts you down to the soul. You come to terms that you inside your own body failed yourself, a bout of deep depression and sorrow like I've never seen. On top of that a close cousin that's late stage cancer at 47, reminds me of horrible memories
Going to move my niece into my house, mom's helping her/me out with mortgage, she's like my daughter, either way I'm giving her my master bedroom to move her back from cali bc she just had a kid and I'm torn on not seeing her and the kid, she's been away for awhile
Skin cancer doesn't come from the sun. It's all the crap we expose our skin to that's the problem. Vitamin D insufficiency from hanging out inside and wearing sunglasses, toxic air/water/food/soap/shampoo, depleted soil/food supply, electrical interference.
I have an uncle (who has a bunch of turbo cancers right now after getting all his Covid vaccines) who has spent the better part of his life hiding from the sun and using sunscreen and hats everywhere for decades. And he's had TONS of skin cancer instances and remissions. If the sun caused skin cancer, he would be the perfect test case of always being careful, never getting sunshine, and not getting skin cancer. He systematically applied the hypothesis that skin cancer came from the sun for 50 years, and constantly got skin cancer. You'd think he'd question his life choices at some time, but he's still watching CNN and doing chemotherapy and surgery for the 10th time.
I have been 2 years of no processed foods, no sweeteners/low carbs, tons of meat/butter free of sunscreen/sunglasses and my skin and vision has and overall health dramatically improved
Name one population on the planet with a pastoral population that has any skin cancer at all. People spend all day every day in the sun and don't get cancer. The sun prevents cancer- we need to spend more time in the sun, spend more time looking at the sun, and more time in nature.
Check out Dr. Jack Kruse's work on light, he writes a ton on his facebook page and does a bunch of podcasts- he started out as a dentist, left the field because he realized it was a scam, became a brain surgeon, and shifted to healing people through physics with a focus on light and mitochondrial energy. He does crazy stuff, like healing vitiligo with light.
I moved to AZ from CT / NYC area last year. No comparison. AZ is much better to run a business (General contractor) there is no licensing in NH. Everyone is your competition. If you think AZ is hot, you've never experienced what cold is until you feel NH in February! Brutal! There are very few people with money there. This cuts down on customers (who pay) the only thing similar are the gun laws. That's it.
If NH is destined to happen for you, the whole thing will fall into place. If it comes with hesitation or anxiety, it probably isn't a good move. That's a gut check.
Last I was there Portsmouth was as liberal a place as NH had to offer. But I left NH a long time ago.
Back in the late 90s though that place had quite the music scene. Good times. Great times.
I miss the weather. I miss the seafood. That's it though.
NH pretty much sucks right now as everything is stupid expensive. Consider your heating costs, seriously, it's a stupid big percentage of your cost of living, which will be outrageous on all fronts, hence the pay rates being so high.
If the math works and the purple haired fags pushing their agenda in your face won't bother you......the weather is very nice, and the seafood is delicious. Oh how I could put a hurt on a seafood platter from newicks right now.
Was actually looking at living in Rochester or Dover, plus my boss was an army vet and a Christian, l I'd walk through walls for the dude, he was my boss in PHX and is the one offering me the job.
It was awful. I thought the village in NYC was the gayest place outside of San Fran but nope…. All the businesses owned by American gay expats. All the lesbians with lesbian haircut and small earrings, Rosie O’Donnell would be in Heaven (nasty woman she is). Half naked men roller-skating holding hands. It was wild. I’ve been around gay people even in major cities. This was Ace and Gary Ambiguously Gay Duo over the top cartoonishly gay. But the town was beyond beautiful. Stunningly beautiful and the Mexican people are so warm and so sweet. Non cartel Mexicans (most of the people in Mexico), are salt of the earth, they treated me like family.
Also saw grown ass men in dresses walking around in Peru. Books and posters of Obama everywhere. Lesbian symbol graffiti on the walls in Mexico, painted red in such a way that it looked like it was splattered in blood….. it was crazy.
It's cheap to cool your house here in AZ. Electricity is inexpensive compared to other states. Heating a house in NH can break you. Check the price of heating oil.
Connecticut. The North East has very high energy costs. I spent the summers collecting wood, cutting, splitting and stacking firewood. We ran wood stoves and still had to run oil. Recently it was over $5.00 a gallon! CT doesn't get nearly as cold as NH. I did a job there. I never experienced that kind of cold before.
Just a little insider info, AZ is under heavy attack right now, they installed that crooked bag Katie Hobb knob into the governorship, robbing my girl Kari Lake of that election, its made me sick what's going on in my home state
I wouldn’t do it for $10. I’m a military wife and going from the south to north is brutal. It’s a cold I had never dreamed of. It’s actually hard to breathe with temps in the 20’s. Cost of living is much higher up that way too. Do it for the adventure, but that’s not enough of an increase for that kind of move in my opinion.
That's my problem, I used to thrive in the cold, I'm like that song from Garbage " I'm only happy when it rains", but rain in the desert is uplifting, when I was in Chicago and I came back home to visit in March, pretty much went back from vacation and packed my stuff, put in my 2 weeks and left
Compare cost of living. Look up standard things you buy regularly. Like the price of milk and other grocery staples. Price of gas. Price of rent or houses. Compare those things to the additional money. Also, moving ALWAYS costs more than you expect it to. Paying deposits on apt., utilities, moving vehicles and muscle.
You could stay in AZ and maybe get a job with a rotation (oilfield) to make potentially more money while getting your business together. And you’d be home on your days off.
I’m living in Utah now, (was in CO). I work 14 days on and have 7 off. Other companies offer different rotations. When I first started in 2014 it was common to make about $110-$120,000 per year. Now it’s around $140-$145,000 per year with no experience. I’m well above that range because I have been doing it for so long but it’s still great for starting out! My job is called Wireline but I know other people in different companies / positions. It’s recommended to get your CDL but not required, especially if you are only wanting to do this until starting your business.
Love that "summer blend" of gas. I think you should stay put. Especially if you are comfortable at your job. It's on thing to go up the street for more money, but to uproot and move 2500 miles for a job that could suck, might be devastating. If they want you so bad they should fly you out and put you up in a hotel for a test drive of the new company. If it's awesome, move there. It is beautiful in the woods up there. The smell of Fall is very spiritual. ( right up until it's time to rake the leaves )
I would Hold, Everything on earth will change in the next 2 years.
No, not worth it unless you really want to live on the east coast.
NH is very ver liberal.
My brother is killing it with his own HVAC business. No question there. Killing it!
I know the work is nonstop, I got my truck, just need to get into an HVAC company for a bit to get the invoicing down then I'm golden
What is the cost of living in NH? If it's higher than AZ, that $10 won't matter much. When I was young I moved far from home and experienced extreme homesickness, so I may be falling back on that memory which is unfair to you. It's hard to start over in a new city not knowing anyone. Then again, it would be an adventure.
I moved to Chicago for a year and half, knew people up there, friends and all but I got sick of it quick
$10/he is not that much - isn't the cost of living much higher there? Not to mention much much colder winters...
Way colder winters, not as hot summers, I'm also HVAC certified so I could make bank, what held me back til now was a 10 year clear of skin cancer
You might want to try visiting there in the winter before you sell everything here and leave - but yeah, I understand about wanting to get out of the heat and sun, esp after a bout with skin cancer. Since all your famliy is here, if you move up there and it doesn't work out, you will have an easier time coming back.
I won't sell everything, I'm going to move my niece into my place from California, but I have alot of toys, do I fire sell some of those? Unfortunately I have to make that decision now and can't wait until winter to see the worst of the worst, that would help clarify things I'm coming from our worst time of year to visit this place when its at most beautiful
https://www.mylifeelsewhere.com/cost-of-living/new-hampshire-usa/arizona-usa
Says AZ is 11.4% cheaper, idk from being here, just visiting and talking to my old boss, seems like it might be about the same, the liberals out here are scary but AZ has been infiltrated too with them
Thank you 🙏
Happy to help! This sounds like one of those things that if you didn't try, you'd regret it later on, no matter if it turns out good or bad.
UNLESS you come upon some new information in the near future to tell you to definitely NOT do it.
Dang 2nd lonely whisper in the wind I'm hearing
Good luck 🍀 Please keep us posted!
For sure
I’ve lived in Arizona for over 25 years. I’m kind of dying to get out of here, but where else do you go. After being in the heat for so long, I don’t think it’s a good idea to move to somewhere that has ice cold winters. It’s just not the same dealing with the different temperature elements. Snow and cold is a whole different ball game. The heat can be managed with air conditioning, you can get to where you wanna go. No problem. You just get in your car and drive. It’s not gonna happen in New Hampshire in the winter time. I have friends that on an air conditioning, HVAC company, they are killing it! If you have that skill, you should use it. Also, if your friends and family are Christians, and are based, that I highly recommend not leaving at all. You need that support system right now you absolutely need that. For so many reasons. $10 more an hour is not that much. And unless this company is paying for you to move, I would say absolutely not! Actually, I would say absolutely not anyway, and this is coming from somebody who’s lived in Arizona for 25 years and wants to leave. The last place I would move to as we’re there snow in the winter time. Pray to the Lord and ask him what he thinks you should do. That’s when you know, it’ll be a success! If God wants you to go, then go.
Amen brother, good info, there are other benefits, pick my own hours, I wanna work 4 10's and they want to let me do that, I was shocked when I heard this, not paid sick leave bc its not needed, just let em know and make it up elsewhere or don't, they only care about having coverage for the plant and bc there strongly staffed then its all good. The prospect of having my business is intriguing and frightening at the same time. I've always taken side jobs but never relied on it full time bc of the cancer thing
Well, I didn’t know you had cancer. You definitely want a job with insurance for that. However; fenbenzodole should help with that. Anyway, it’s a huge decision to make
At one time in my life, I used to work those long shifts. We worked five on, five off, two on, and two off. I don’t think it added up to 40 hours completely, I think it was 38 hours. But still. It was an awesome schedule. 810s would be perfect.
I’ve got some huge decisions to make, it is, God is on your side, it’s the right decision. Just make sure it’s really him that’s telling you to go, because if it’s not in his will, it will be a disaster. Take it from me… You don’t wanna go that route. Regrets or a bad experience in a bad feeling, and the thing is it takes a long time to get through those bad decisions.
Like you said, at your age, do you want to come back at a later time, and then try and start over.
One thing weighing on my mind, I grew up in a state that up until recently wages were garbage due to retirees moving in and taking jobs at low wages. It didn't matter to them bc of the fact that they had a retirement pension and the only they worked for were the insurance benefits so employers didn't pay much but offered good insurance benefits. It was a nightmare for so long and made it hard to make an income. I watched friends in big cities make a killing at my same age. Mentally it messed up alot of people my age and destroyed many dudes, most people my age ended up in just a party lifestyle, drugs, booze, it just wrecked my generation in this state
Oh and yeah cancer isn't just the tumor, I found out that in actually cuts you down to the soul. You come to terms that you inside your own body failed yourself, a bout of deep depression and sorrow like I've never seen. On top of that a close cousin that's late stage cancer at 47, reminds me of horrible memories
Going to move my niece into my house, mom's helping her/me out with mortgage, she's like my daughter, either way I'm giving her my master bedroom to move her back from cali bc she just had a kid and I'm torn on not seeing her and the kid, she's been away for awhile
That's cool. Also cool about your boss - what does he say to you about your hesitations?
Skin cancer doesn't come from the sun. It's all the crap we expose our skin to that's the problem. Vitamin D insufficiency from hanging out inside and wearing sunglasses, toxic air/water/food/soap/shampoo, depleted soil/food supply, electrical interference.
I have an uncle (who has a bunch of turbo cancers right now after getting all his Covid vaccines) who has spent the better part of his life hiding from the sun and using sunscreen and hats everywhere for decades. And he's had TONS of skin cancer instances and remissions. If the sun caused skin cancer, he would be the perfect test case of always being careful, never getting sunshine, and not getting skin cancer. He systematically applied the hypothesis that skin cancer came from the sun for 50 years, and constantly got skin cancer. You'd think he'd question his life choices at some time, but he's still watching CNN and doing chemotherapy and surgery for the 10th time.
I have been 2 years of no processed foods, no sweeteners/low carbs, tons of meat/butter free of sunscreen/sunglasses and my skin and vision has and overall health dramatically improved
Name one population on the planet with a pastoral population that has any skin cancer at all. People spend all day every day in the sun and don't get cancer. The sun prevents cancer- we need to spend more time in the sun, spend more time looking at the sun, and more time in nature.
Check out Dr. Jack Kruse's work on light, he writes a ton on his facebook page and does a bunch of podcasts- he started out as a dentist, left the field because he realized it was a scam, became a brain surgeon, and shifted to healing people through physics with a focus on light and mitochondrial energy. He does crazy stuff, like healing vitiligo with light.
homefair.com let's you compate cost of living
I moved to AZ from CT / NYC area last year. No comparison. AZ is much better to run a business (General contractor) there is no licensing in NH. Everyone is your competition. If you think AZ is hot, you've never experienced what cold is until you feel NH in February! Brutal! There are very few people with money there. This cuts down on customers (who pay) the only thing similar are the gun laws. That's it.
Thank you
No.
There are patriots in New Hampshire.
Free State Project. Check it out, maybe you can make some good connections.
https://www.fsp.org/
If NH is destined to happen for you, the whole thing will fall into place. If it comes with hesitation or anxiety, it probably isn't a good move. That's a gut check.
💯💯💯 shoot I think this was the best thread I've posted 🙏much appreciated
10 per hour isn't an increase i could see myself making a change like that for
Last I was there Portsmouth was as liberal a place as NH had to offer. But I left NH a long time ago.
Back in the late 90s though that place had quite the music scene. Good times. Great times.
I miss the weather. I miss the seafood. That's it though.
NH pretty much sucks right now as everything is stupid expensive. Consider your heating costs, seriously, it's a stupid big percentage of your cost of living, which will be outrageous on all fronts, hence the pay rates being so high.
If the math works and the purple haired fags pushing their agenda in your face won't bother you......the weather is very nice, and the seafood is delicious. Oh how I could put a hurt on a seafood platter from newicks right now.
Was actually looking at living in Rochester or Dover, plus my boss was an army vet and a Christian, l I'd walk through walls for the dude, he was my boss in PHX and is the one offering me the job.
They ruin everything. I was in puerto Vallarta Mexico and it was the gayest place on earth. Had to cancel my booking and leave instantly.
Seriously? In Mexico too 😳
It was awful. I thought the village in NYC was the gayest place outside of San Fran but nope…. All the businesses owned by American gay expats. All the lesbians with lesbian haircut and small earrings, Rosie O’Donnell would be in Heaven (nasty woman she is). Half naked men roller-skating holding hands. It was wild. I’ve been around gay people even in major cities. This was Ace and Gary Ambiguously Gay Duo over the top cartoonishly gay. But the town was beyond beautiful. Stunningly beautiful and the Mexican people are so warm and so sweet. Non cartel Mexicans (most of the people in Mexico), are salt of the earth, they treated me like family.
Also saw grown ass men in dresses walking around in Peru. Books and posters of Obama everywhere. Lesbian symbol graffiti on the walls in Mexico, painted red in such a way that it looked like it was splattered in blood….. it was crazy.
Bruh, I was just at Newick's in dover point today! Very very good fresh as fresh can be and the food is better here imo
It's cheap to cool your house here in AZ. Electricity is inexpensive compared to other states. Heating a house in NH can break you. Check the price of heating oil.
Might run as high as 900/month
Where are you from originally?
Connecticut. The North East has very high energy costs. I spent the summers collecting wood, cutting, splitting and stacking firewood. We ran wood stoves and still had to run oil. Recently it was over $5.00 a gallon! CT doesn't get nearly as cold as NH. I did a job there. I never experienced that kind of cold before.
Have you ever been to NH? Is my first question. Second, I agree $10 more isn't really worth a move. It's expensive up there.
Oh man! It's beautiful there. Winters are or can be harsh. Roads suck. I'll be praying for you. I'd start my own biz though. Best of luck.
Look at the cost of living. Know that this mean not just expenses.
Just a little insider info, AZ is under heavy attack right now, they installed that crooked bag Katie Hobb knob into the governorship, robbing my girl Kari Lake of that election, its made me sick what's going on in my home state
Family and friends mean a hell of a lot more than you realize, but if your heart is set on going then go for it.
Nothing is permanent, and if it doesn't work out there is always the road home.
It isn't something I would do or when I was young, but then I don't like damned yankees. kek
I wouldn’t do it for $10. I’m a military wife and going from the south to north is brutal. It’s a cold I had never dreamed of. It’s actually hard to breathe with temps in the 20’s. Cost of living is much higher up that way too. Do it for the adventure, but that’s not enough of an increase for that kind of move in my opinion.
20s? I’m still wearing shorts in that temperature
That's my problem, I used to thrive in the cold, I'm like that song from Garbage " I'm only happy when it rains", but rain in the desert is uplifting, when I was in Chicago and I came back home to visit in March, pretty much went back from vacation and packed my stuff, put in my 2 weeks and left
Compare cost of living. Look up standard things you buy regularly. Like the price of milk and other grocery staples. Price of gas. Price of rent or houses. Compare those things to the additional money. Also, moving ALWAYS costs more than you expect it to. Paying deposits on apt., utilities, moving vehicles and muscle.
Also state taxes, sales tax or not. So many things end up eating away at what you thought was going to be a so much better deal.
But you indicate family..... if that is pulling you and you get along with them then that has to weigh heavily.
No state sales or income tax, AZ has sales and income taxes, its weighing very heavily right now
You could stay in AZ and maybe get a job with a rotation (oilfield) to make potentially more money while getting your business together. And you’d be home on your days off.
Tell me more of this oilfield venture, all ears
I’m living in Utah now, (was in CO). I work 14 days on and have 7 off. Other companies offer different rotations. When I first started in 2014 it was common to make about $110-$120,000 per year. Now it’s around $140-$145,000 per year with no experience. I’m well above that range because I have been doing it for so long but it’s still great for starting out! My job is called Wireline but I know other people in different companies / positions. It’s recommended to get your CDL but not required, especially if you are only wanting to do this until starting your business.
Check property taxes
Love that "summer blend" of gas. I think you should stay put. Especially if you are comfortable at your job. It's on thing to go up the street for more money, but to uproot and move 2500 miles for a job that could suck, might be devastating. If they want you so bad they should fly you out and put you up in a hotel for a test drive of the new company. If it's awesome, move there. It is beautiful in the woods up there. The smell of Fall is very spiritual. ( right up until it's time to rake the leaves )
They did all this I'm here now and everything you said is 💯💯💯. Flying out tom bc of flight delay
Well than. Glad to help. Welcome back home when you get there🙂
A little more than AZ
Thanks everyone, you've helped me out alot with this one