It’s sad but like 95% of ‘Christianity’ in America is apostate. Even the Christian concerts and Christian college ‘revivals’ are just positive thought pep rallies with meaningless ‘Christianese’ buzz words but not the actual Gospel. If an actual evangelist grappled the microphone at a Kari Jobe concert and started to preach from the Bible, the crowd would kill the evangelist. I’m not even joking.
I used to live near Carmel NY. That is where guidepost is located. I knew people that worked there.
Their job was to write letters to people that wrote into guidepost.
They would write one of many pre-scripted letters that guidepost had.
The idea was to make it look like the person got a personal letter back.
When all they really got was a form letter.
That was before the internet.
Like anything, masonry is dual in nature. There are those who will use its secrets for darkness, and others for light. You are right about the lodge being infiltrated by darkness. There are specific books that point to this event being planned and actually happening, but on this site you get the hammer for posting links so such books. Makes ya wonder why..
as much as this site likes to think of itself as omniescent, its not at the top, and really kindof niche. many truths yet to be uncovered that the general public is not ready for. GAW goes at its own pace, and I don't think that's a case against it. what the general public is ready for is expanding rapidly..
I can't say anything about the summer camps or about his earthly father, but John MacArthur's sermons are solidly supported by biblical texts. He's a great speaker, but his sermons are as close to a bible study class as a sermon can get. I attended regularly for about a year. His church also openly and flagrantly defied the gov't attempts to shut them down, and initiated suit against the state, winning soundly.
Your right about Billy Graham from what I have read/heard. Mason/Jesuit/Jew many connections. Wolves in sheep's clothing literally. Priestly robes and Masonic aprons.
It still is about that in many lodges. I cant say that there arent bad masons or bad lodges but my lodge has many freedom loving Christian men in it who are always seeking to see how they can give to others and to the community. Its honestly ignorant for anyone on here to just hear someones a mason and write them off. It really speaks to how little they actually know about freemasonry.
The very nature of such a secret society and the insane things they agree to is abhorrent, as JFK said, to many people, regardless of what they're up to in their day to day.
Unless the people who've been up the chain are lying, they will eventually push entirely non Christian beliefs onto the members. Nobody denies that good people who are Christians get into the lower ranks. Plenty of Christians got roped into Communism and Nazism too before it was obvious what it was and they were in too deep.
There's other massive red flags like the way they let each other off for crimes even if it's a serious crime with blatant evidence.
Freemasonry isnt a secret society....it never has been. A secret society seeks to keep its existence secret. It has always been a fraternity with secrets...not because we dont want people to know them but because we want people to seek them out for themselves. Just like a college fratnerity but for adults of many ages and not just for social interaction but for helping the community and each other be better men. my observations and first hand knowledge just dont align with the innuendo and assumptions people on here make because Ive lived it. I mean even people who say “hes a 33rd degree“ dont understand how that doesn't make someone higher up than someone who is not. The highest degree is Master Mason. After becoming a Master Mason you can join appendant bodies like York Rite, Scottish Rite, Shiners, etc. or if you choose any combination of them, all of them, or none of them. The degrees in those appendant bodies are supplemental degrees that each have a different emphasis (Christianity for York Rite, Philosophy for Scottish, Charity for Shrine etc) but none of which make you “higher up” than another person who has decided not to join. I know this because im master mason myself and have joined some of these bodies and received all of the degrees. I have seen nothing that is anti Christian or goes against my faith. If there ever was Id leave immediately. Anyway theres a lot of hoaxes, misunderstandings and claims made but im on the inside and ive been trying to get people to understand freemasonry isnt what they think it is. Its way more boring than the claims against it. Lol.
I would argue that there is quite clearly a secret society (or multiple) that forms the core of Freemasonry, surrounded by what you describe, a fraternity with secrets. I believe that fraternity with secrets is nothing more than a front group used to improve public image and reception. I see the same thing happening with religions like Tibetan Buddhism or the Catholic Church. Freemasonry only seems to be a much more secretive and organized version of that same pattern.
All of what you're describing would line up with what we've heard from the whistleblowers who were high level in the order, which is that most low level Freemasons have little if any clue what their organization is truly about, and Christians or anyone with a moral compass that won't break are strung along for as long as they're useful but never allowed too high up. Having genuinely good people, especially if they're Christians, around the community promoting Freemasonry is great for them to maintain their public image and recruit.
Now that said, I'm not saying anything is impossible. There could be factions within Freemasonry that truly follow Christ and want the organization reformed or returned to some better past. There could even be a core within that corrupted core pulling its own strings. There could be people who are into all that new age stuff which I believe is wrong and dangerous, but are still opposed to outright satanists and Luciferians. I don't claim to have all the answers but I know that people who seek God and find Him have already joined a sort of brotherhood where there is one leader and everyone is already welcome to a 24/7 personal meeting time with Him. Lies and secrets are discouraged, impossible when dealing with the Boss, and membership is automatic.
The church is also a belonging you are correct. And ultimately a more important one. But we can be a part of many groups in life as long as we are true to our hearts. The whole “theres actually a society within a society“ is an argument Ive heard many times but im trying to tell you that ive seen no evidence of any of this and trust me i would have already heard something because masons talk BETWEEN masons ALOT. If i ever uncover something untoward ill report it here and exit the fraternity. I can promise you that
Hmmm. Maybe you found a good lodge. How many members did you lose to covid. 90% of the deaths I know are all masons.. and I knew these folks personally.
One of the heads of the York rite back in the late 1700s called for the dissolution of all Freemasonry because it had been completely infiltrated by dark forces I heard.
I tried really hard to find good proof of this but just a lot of people repeating it if anyone can dig it up I'd love to hear it.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if there are masons inside the order who know its corrupt who are white hats.
I don't assume the worst of all Masons but I do assume some very bad things about their leadership based on what whistleblowers have come forth with, as well as the kind of people it has produced on the world stage.
It strikes me as a solidly bad organization, that may have originally started as a relatively benign Pagan-ish group (I mean benign compared to outright satanist)
It’s sad but like 95% of ‘Christianity’ in America is apostate. Even the Christian concerts and Christian college ‘revivals’ are just positive thought pep rallies with meaningless ‘Christianese’ buzz words but not the actual Gospel. If an actual evangelist grappled the microphone at a Kari Jobe concert and started to preach from the Bible, the crowd would kill the evangelist. I’m not even joking.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=uuabITeO4l8.
If that happened today, on just about any so-called Christian campus, Paul Washer would be killed.
I wholeheartedly agree, unfortunately.
I used to live near Carmel NY. That is where guidepost is located. I knew people that worked there. Their job was to write letters to people that wrote into guidepost. They would write one of many pre-scripted letters that guidepost had.
The idea was to make it look like the person got a personal letter back. When all they really got was a form letter. That was before the internet.
And believe it or not. Those letters might have actually helped people.
I am sure they helped some people. I thought it was a bit underhanded.
Be advised. This is not a smear or something negative. I’m simply bringing some of you the information that a lot of US already know.
I'd love to know more about the history of masonry. just another organization taken over by corruption, i suspect, much like the republican party.
people also 'accuse' Billy Graham of having masonic connections, but whether that's true or not, he's one of my favourite Christian speakers
Like anything, masonry is dual in nature. There are those who will use its secrets for darkness, and others for light. You are right about the lodge being infiltrated by darkness. There are specific books that point to this event being planned and actually happening, but on this site you get the hammer for posting links so such books. Makes ya wonder why..
as much as this site likes to think of itself as omniescent, its not at the top, and really kindof niche. many truths yet to be uncovered that the general public is not ready for. GAW goes at its own pace, and I don't think that's a case against it. what the general public is ready for is expanding rapidly..
Spot on fren. God bless you.
I like John McArthur but his dad might have been a mason. And I think his church had (has) Druid pagan festivals.
https://www.watch-unto-prayer.org/macarthur-7-druid-festival.html
Like, it’s crazy how they are everywhere.
Billy Graham was basically a Jesuit wolf in sheepskin.
I can't say anything about the summer camps or about his earthly father, but John MacArthur's sermons are solidly supported by biblical texts. He's a great speaker, but his sermons are as close to a bible study class as a sermon can get. I attended regularly for about a year. His church also openly and flagrantly defied the gov't attempts to shut them down, and initiated suit against the state, winning soundly.
Your right about Billy Graham from what I have read/heard. Mason/Jesuit/Jew many connections. Wolves in sheep's clothing literally. Priestly robes and Masonic aprons.
Freemasonry used to be about freeing humanity and building a better world. Sadly, the catalyst has taken over that moral structure also.
It still is about that in many lodges. I cant say that there arent bad masons or bad lodges but my lodge has many freedom loving Christian men in it who are always seeking to see how they can give to others and to the community. Its honestly ignorant for anyone on here to just hear someones a mason and write them off. It really speaks to how little they actually know about freemasonry.
The very nature of such a secret society and the insane things they agree to is abhorrent, as JFK said, to many people, regardless of what they're up to in their day to day. Unless the people who've been up the chain are lying, they will eventually push entirely non Christian beliefs onto the members. Nobody denies that good people who are Christians get into the lower ranks. Plenty of Christians got roped into Communism and Nazism too before it was obvious what it was and they were in too deep. There's other massive red flags like the way they let each other off for crimes even if it's a serious crime with blatant evidence.
Freemasonry isnt a secret society....it never has been. A secret society seeks to keep its existence secret. It has always been a fraternity with secrets...not because we dont want people to know them but because we want people to seek them out for themselves. Just like a college fratnerity but for adults of many ages and not just for social interaction but for helping the community and each other be better men. my observations and first hand knowledge just dont align with the innuendo and assumptions people on here make because Ive lived it. I mean even people who say “hes a 33rd degree“ dont understand how that doesn't make someone higher up than someone who is not. The highest degree is Master Mason. After becoming a Master Mason you can join appendant bodies like York Rite, Scottish Rite, Shiners, etc. or if you choose any combination of them, all of them, or none of them. The degrees in those appendant bodies are supplemental degrees that each have a different emphasis (Christianity for York Rite, Philosophy for Scottish, Charity for Shrine etc) but none of which make you “higher up” than another person who has decided not to join. I know this because im master mason myself and have joined some of these bodies and received all of the degrees. I have seen nothing that is anti Christian or goes against my faith. If there ever was Id leave immediately. Anyway theres a lot of hoaxes, misunderstandings and claims made but im on the inside and ive been trying to get people to understand freemasonry isnt what they think it is. Its way more boring than the claims against it. Lol.
I would argue that there is quite clearly a secret society (or multiple) that forms the core of Freemasonry, surrounded by what you describe, a fraternity with secrets. I believe that fraternity with secrets is nothing more than a front group used to improve public image and reception. I see the same thing happening with religions like Tibetan Buddhism or the Catholic Church. Freemasonry only seems to be a much more secretive and organized version of that same pattern. All of what you're describing would line up with what we've heard from the whistleblowers who were high level in the order, which is that most low level Freemasons have little if any clue what their organization is truly about, and Christians or anyone with a moral compass that won't break are strung along for as long as they're useful but never allowed too high up. Having genuinely good people, especially if they're Christians, around the community promoting Freemasonry is great for them to maintain their public image and recruit. Now that said, I'm not saying anything is impossible. There could be factions within Freemasonry that truly follow Christ and want the organization reformed or returned to some better past. There could even be a core within that corrupted core pulling its own strings. There could be people who are into all that new age stuff which I believe is wrong and dangerous, but are still opposed to outright satanists and Luciferians. I don't claim to have all the answers but I know that people who seek God and find Him have already joined a sort of brotherhood where there is one leader and everyone is already welcome to a 24/7 personal meeting time with Him. Lies and secrets are discouraged, impossible when dealing with the Boss, and membership is automatic.
The church is also a belonging you are correct. And ultimately a more important one. But we can be a part of many groups in life as long as we are true to our hearts. The whole “theres actually a society within a society“ is an argument Ive heard many times but im trying to tell you that ive seen no evidence of any of this and trust me i would have already heard something because masons talk BETWEEN masons ALOT. If i ever uncover something untoward ill report it here and exit the fraternity. I can promise you that
Just don’t mention Jesus Christ on lodge grounds and you’ll be alright…
Have already done so. As have others. Still here.
Hmmm. Maybe you found a good lodge. How many members did you lose to covid. 90% of the deaths I know are all masons.. and I knew these folks personally.
None that i know of...but plenty of people that refused to get the jab
So it seemed at least. Agreed
One of the heads of the York rite back in the late 1700s called for the dissolution of all Freemasonry because it had been completely infiltrated by dark forces I heard.
I tried really hard to find good proof of this but just a lot of people repeating it if anyone can dig it up I'd love to hear it.
I wouldn't be surprised one bit if there are masons inside the order who know its corrupt who are white hats.
All I can tell you is yes, and I encourage you to read behold a pale horse, there is a part in there that is very important.
I have the book but haven't read it cover to cover yet will check it out
I don't assume the worst of all Masons but I do assume some very bad things about their leadership based on what whistleblowers have come forth with, as well as the kind of people it has produced on the world stage. It strikes me as a solidly bad organization, that may have originally started as a relatively benign Pagan-ish group (I mean benign compared to outright satanist)
More sauce. Trump talks about the pastor during an interview at the end of the video.
https://youtu.be/g4Yh0DxHEjc