Would not have known this unless I had seen this clip. I would assume the majority of Americans have no idea this even happened since most of those alive at the time are now dead.
I did not. I grew up in the 70's and 80's in California, when Americans could actually get a very good public education. I was a bookworm with an acute interest in Civics, the Space Program and Warfare.
Well that would explain it, then. I am female and I grew up in the 60's and 70's but I was an avid reader of mostly fiction and sci-fi. But not much of a reader of Warfare or Space program.
The Empire State building was hit by a relatively small B25 bomber.
The type of bomber used on the Doolittle raid on Japan in 1942.
The WTC false flag was a whole new level of Cabal evilness perpetrated to increase their strangle hold on an unsuspecting and trusting public to get us to the NWO.
Trump's election in 2016 severely derailed their timeline.
Note that reference to the B25 crash has now been stripped out of World Trade Center “development” section which previously mentioned it.
Look at what offices got hit. This might have been the first 9-11 used to destroy money laundering and Nazi collaborator records shortly after the end of WW2 (European Theater War ended May 8th, 1945 with last shot May 11th).
At 9:40 a.m. [Saturday, July 28, 1945], he aircraft crashed into the north side of the Empire State Building, between the 78th and 80th floors, making an 18-by-20-foot (5.5 m × 6.1 m) hole in the building[8] into the offices of the War Relief Services and the National Catholic Welfare Council.
Teeny-tiny bomber at propeller speed. Details make a difference. But created a big hole anyway. Not too many storefronts suffer serious damage when a Smart car crashes into them. But the story is different when it is a laden Freightliner.
Kind of hard to explain that to people who don't understand what the "F," "m,"or "a" in F=ma stands for.
For the kids who had to suffer through our bullshit modern education system:
Force= Mass (size; weight) of an object, multiplied by its Acceleration (speed; velocity).
The force generated by the impact of a large jet liner that can seat hundreds of people, and moves at jet speed is several orders of magnitude more powerful than what a small B25 bomber moving at prop engine speed can produce. https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/force
Besides that fact, I believe that it is safe to assume that the old Empire State building is simply built with stronger building materials, than the newer WTC was. Old construction homes and buildings had builders who didn't cut corners to pinch pennies like more modern (overpriced cheap-shit) constructions tend to have.
Good point on the power of momentum. But I wouldn't make that assumption about the Twin Towers construction. A severe fire can reduce the strength of steel by 90%. They just didn't figure on that scenario when they built it. Hard to imagine how one could build it to survive.
I think the Design of Towers definitely affected them. They were built to be wide, wide, open office spaces which meant less columns. The solution at the trade center were the outside of the building was a grid work of columns that supported 40% of the weight while the core columns were grouped into the center of the building.
there's videos where you can see the debris cloud go down, and then after you see some thin spikes or "spires" still remaining. These are the core columns, the strongest part of the building. a 70 story high section of the core column collapsed like 15 seconds after the rest of the building. Pretty crazy stuff. like a tree where all the branches were ripped away before the trunk fell.
Also, the modern design approach was to have inner (not core) columns supporting an exterior "curtain" wall. It was one of the only ways to achieve higher buildings without making them into ziggurats.
I think the correct terminology would be "damaged", not 'hurt'. The latter is used to describe pain or discomfort felt by an organism, the former is used to denote actual structural or physiological impairment. One is for personal damage, and the other is for material damage. Just saying......it reads funny to English speakers.
The jet fuel burned off very quickly. The fires were sustained by the immense of amount of regular flammable material you would find in an office. Filing cabinets filled with paper, computers, carpets.
You wouldn't use det charges AND thermite. The whole idea that the thermite was used is because the linear charges used in building demolitions would be way too loud. They would have been heard in NJ and Brooklyn and all through lower Manhattan.
A lot of the jet fuel went up in the initial fireball. Some more went down the elevator shafts and exploded in the lobby. Which is probably what the firefighters heard. There was an elevator that went the full length of the building.....to the restaurant at the top. These "explosions" didn't bring down the building. The building stood after that.
The fire got hot enough to weaken the steel. Because most of the sprayed fire resistive materials would have stripped from the steel when the planes tore through the building. They changed the SFRM requirements in the building codes after that.
Det charges leave a ton of evidence. Miles and miles of det cord would be required and you can make a charge cut through steel AND be quiet. They are linked.
My problem with thermite is, it would leave a ton of evidence. It's effects are very distinctive looking and it would leave blobs of iron and Aluminium oxide everywher
The Structural Engineering group in NY examined the steel. They went to the places in Staten Island where the debris was taken and looked at the steel. The results of thermite would have been noticed
Would not have known this unless I had seen this clip. I would assume the majority of Americans have no idea this even happened since most of those alive at the time are now dead.
really? I've known about this since I was a child.
Did you grow up near NYC?
I did not. I grew up in the 70's and 80's in California, when Americans could actually get a very good public education. I was a bookworm with an acute interest in Civics, the Space Program and Warfare.
Well that would explain it, then. I am female and I grew up in the 60's and 70's but I was an avid reader of mostly fiction and sci-fi. But not much of a reader of Warfare or Space program.
I liked Asimov and Arthur C. Clark, too!
The Empire State building was hit by a relatively small B25 bomber. The type of bomber used on the Doolittle raid on Japan in 1942.
The WTC false flag was a whole new level of Cabal evilness perpetrated to increase their strangle hold on an unsuspecting and trusting public to get us to the NWO.
Trump's election in 2016 severely derailed their timeline.
Note that reference to the B25 crash has now been stripped out of World Trade Center “development” section which previously mentioned it.
Look at what offices got hit. This might have been the first 9-11 used to destroy money laundering and Nazi collaborator records shortly after the end of WW2 (European Theater War ended May 8th, 1945 with last shot May 11th).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1945_Empire_State_Building_B-25_crash
Hooley dooley! Excellent find there fren! Very interesting, and another great rabbit hole to dig down into!
Totally different buildings, too
AP was actually doing NEWS back then.
Building 7 did not fall from an aircraft either. 🤡 . Clown world”
Neither did WTC 1, 2 & 7.
2nd plane flew over my head. I was physically there, fren
What part of the city were you in? My uncle had just gotten off the Staten Island Ferry was able to get back on the last one leaving.
Another friend was at JR Music World.
A third came out of the subway just in time to get caught in the dustcloud.
Luckily I didn't know anyone who died?
Fire spread to 11 floors. Along with the NYFD, the ESB was saved by a lack of thermite and bushes.
I don't think any Mossad agents danced on a roof after recording it either.
Teeny-tiny bomber at propeller speed. Details make a difference. But created a big hole anyway. Not too many storefronts suffer serious damage when a Smart car crashes into them. But the story is different when it is a laden Freightliner.
Kind of hard to explain that to people who don't understand what the "F," "m,"or "a" in F=ma stands for.
For the kids who had to suffer through our bullshit modern education system:
Force= Mass (size; weight) of an object, multiplied by its Acceleration (speed; velocity).
The force generated by the impact of a large jet liner that can seat hundreds of people, and moves at jet speed is several orders of magnitude more powerful than what a small B25 bomber moving at prop engine speed can produce.
https://www.omnicalculator.com/physics/force
Besides that fact, I believe that it is safe to assume that the old Empire State building is simply built with stronger building materials, than the newer WTC was. Old construction homes and buildings had builders who didn't cut corners to pinch pennies like more modern (overpriced cheap-shit) constructions tend to have.
Good point on the power of momentum. But I wouldn't make that assumption about the Twin Towers construction. A severe fire can reduce the strength of steel by 90%. They just didn't figure on that scenario when they built it. Hard to imagine how one could build it to survive.
I think the Design of Towers definitely affected them. They were built to be wide, wide, open office spaces which meant less columns. The solution at the trade center were the outside of the building was a grid work of columns that supported 40% of the weight while the core columns were grouped into the center of the building.
there's videos where you can see the debris cloud go down, and then after you see some thin spikes or "spires" still remaining. These are the core columns, the strongest part of the building. a 70 story high section of the core column collapsed like 15 seconds after the rest of the building. Pretty crazy stuff. like a tree where all the branches were ripped away before the trunk fell.
Also, the modern design approach was to have inner (not core) columns supporting an exterior "curtain" wall. It was one of the only ways to achieve higher buildings without making them into ziggurats.
Very different aircraft and very different building construction.
The B-25H had a maximum take-off weight of 35,000 pounds.
The Boeing 767-200ER weighs 395,000 pounds and the 767-200 weighs 314,000.
I can’t speak to the building construction but the ESB seems a lot more sturdy than the WTC buildings.
The planes at the WTC were going fast, I know two people who heard it.
Maybe the demolition crew was behind.
I think the correct terminology would be "damaged", not 'hurt'. The latter is used to describe pain or discomfort felt by an organism, the former is used to denote actual structural or physiological impairment. One is for personal damage, and the other is for material damage. Just saying......it reads funny to English speakers.
I meant « hit » which is « heurté » in French. Sorry.🤓
2 days later....business as usual!
Jet fuel is actually LESS explosive than gasoline. It's an oil, reskky, really, not a liquid
The jet fuel burned off very quickly. The fires were sustained by the immense of amount of regular flammable material you would find in an office. Filing cabinets filled with paper, computers, carpets.
You wouldn't use det charges AND thermite. The whole idea that the thermite was used is because the linear charges used in building demolitions would be way too loud. They would have been heard in NJ and Brooklyn and all through lower Manhattan.
A lot of the jet fuel went up in the initial fireball. Some more went down the elevator shafts and exploded in the lobby. Which is probably what the firefighters heard. There was an elevator that went the full length of the building.....to the restaurant at the top. These "explosions" didn't bring down the building. The building stood after that.
The fire got hot enough to weaken the steel. Because most of the sprayed fire resistive materials would have stripped from the steel when the planes tore through the building. They changed the SFRM requirements in the building codes after that.
Det charges leave a ton of evidence. Miles and miles of det cord would be required and you can make a charge cut through steel AND be quiet. They are linked.
My problem with thermite is, it would leave a ton of evidence. It's effects are very distinctive looking and it would leave blobs of iron and Aluminium oxide everywher
The Structural Engineering group in NY examined the steel. They went to the places in Staten Island where the debris was taken and looked at the steel. The results of thermite would have been noticed