Electric vehicles are: 1) inefficient-can only go a short distance, about 170 miles, before a recharge is needed, 2) there are not enough charging stations, so you are confined to close areas-which fits in with their 15 minute city plans, 3) electric vehicle charging stations use regular fuel sources to provide the power, which makes running the vehicle more costly, 4) unreliable regarding charging in cold weather, 5) vehicles are very costly for the average individual, 6) battery replacement is very expensive, 7) batteries are produced mainly in China which makes us further dependent on a foreign country, 8) just like windmills, electric batteries will provide further pollution in landfills leaching into the ground, 9) batteries so far are not recyclable, 10) when stuck in an accident, snowstorm, evacuation from a hurricane, you will use your charge up and further delay evacuation and put your life and others in danger. If this isn’t enough to make you say no, then I don’t know what is.
All good points. One more point, though not related to environmental impact. Where I live some people use the charging stations (located in parking spaces next to shops) for parking. Probably the same folks who also illegally occupy handicap parking for convenience. No enforcement by police.
That was my comment, because still many people even in this forum believe electric cars are environmentally friendly. Conceptually, yes, they are friendly. But practically, hell NO.
Rivian is an American-made electric truck. Trump's Truth here is that we need to stop outsourcing the jobs to China. For all we know, Trump could be promoting Rivian with that Truth. But instead you put your own spin on it that all electric vehicles are bad because electric... even though that isn't what Trump even truthed, despite the fact that you started your post with DJT Truth.
If you want to report on the news, at least keep it honest! We are the news now! But we're no better if we're just putting our own spins on things, like the MSM before us. We are the news, but only if we can report it accurately.
I am completely aware of DJT's intent. I am also allowed to express my opinion in addition to his, just like you are entitled to express yours on mine. That won't make us MSM. Just chill with your sharp comments.
Sure, but if you start your post with the words DJT Truth, naturally the "truth" would follow.
I drive an electric vehicle for local areas. I don't do it because i believe it to be environmentally friendly. I do it because i care about my wallet. I can get much more range, for much less money, than you do with gas....
But I'm not going to attack you for wanting to drive a gas powered vehicle, i just don't understand your hatred for electric vehicles. Especially since the Truth that you retruthed wasn't anti-electric cars at all!
I figured you drive one from your initial post itself. You have to defend it with all might on that account. I wasn't attacking anyone here, but globalists's false narratives about EVs. You enjoy your EV, nothing wrong with that since you already have it. This post is nothing to do with it.
In fact, 5 years ago, EV was to be my next purchase. But after learning about all the globalists' propagandas I backed out of that desire. If I had bought one before I woke up, I'd still be driving it, just like you said for wallet's sake. These gas prices are killing us and that's their intent.
We don't hate EVs per se, its all the narratives that surround EVs are what we attack. Just read others comments on this post.
I have nothing to correct regarding title. DJT's truth post is what I posted in the image and must be titled as such. Rest of the title is what I feel about EVs. If you don't like it, so be it. We can't please everyone. I had to grab the opportunity to expose falsity around EVs as they portray, what better way to do that along with DJT's post about EVs to grab more eyes. You dig?
Let UAW sink to the bottom - where they belong. ( Socialist UNION commies ) - Secondly - Boat motors , Outboard Motors - used to be 100HP Two Strokes / now - 250 HP 4 stroke monstrosities. Third - Motocrsoss bikes , used to be 250CC two Strokes - NOW 450CC Four Stroke's. Twice the moving parts , twice the expense , twice the gasoline. Fourth - back in the day , 327ci V8 / 350 hp / 350 ft lbs torc - today - 6.0 liter SMOG DOG chocked up Big Block. All these "Modern Conveniences" have taken us ONLY backwards. Keep it "Simple - Stupid" !
Loved the two stroke motorcycles as a kid. In HS circa 1970 I had an awesome cherry red Kawasaki 500 (3 cylinder 2 stroke) that beat anything else around.
Not talked about much...but all that BS about "the future is electric" has a lot to do with GM, Ford, etc being on board with the idea of EV's so they can close their engine plants. Instead of an engine, cars would come with cheap battery packs from China. While they charge the same, if not more, for a car with less range and utility. The govt "tax breaks" provide incentives for EV land yachts that cost $80k on up.
Car companies LOVE that business model. Force you to buy their product, charge you more, you get less. And EV's are worthless in 8 years when the battery pack shits the bed, thereby killing the used market.
No, it just means they are narcissists who constantly come up with schemes to try and make people dependent on them.
it means that you expect “them” to win.
Lol. No.
They're getting decimated by white hats who fight on multiple fronts. The world is being reshaped, but the same old narcissists who control the criminal network and prior system are trying everything they can to keep people dependent and blind.
They are losing, but like all narcissists. The more they lose control they louder they scream and try to cover it up by creating lies.
there will be pretty effective ways for “them” to do what they want anyway.
MS-13 has been mass arrested and locked away in El Salvador. Honduras is doing the same. Land routes for drug cartels are being blocked which is why they are getting more violent and desperate.
The louder MSN screams, the more desperately they try to cover up their failings. The reason they try to doom here and elsewhere is because those that defend the former system are afraid of a world where decent people are allowed to live without THEM.
They have lost. They are losing. They will completely lose soon. One only has to look past the shrill screams of the MSN and the decimated howls of the remaining insurgent/ antifa to see it.
Of course the more they lose the louder they'll wail and project.
Not sure where your doom is coming from. Maybe you need to step back and see the big picture.
There are some positive environmental impacts of EVs if you compare them to shit.
For centuries mankind has reallocated shit from where people live to where they don’t.
Same thing with EVs, a coal fueled power plant will never make an EV more environmental friendly, but at least it reallocates the harmful pollutants (NoX etc) from where many people live like Atlanta to where fewer people live like Juliette.
I know that this forum hates EVs, but one thing’s for sure, EVs will drastically reduce local air pollution.
Its not just sourcing of energy. If you dig how lithium batteries are made, how poor children and others are forced into labor digging the mines for lithium in poor countries, you will start to hate them too.
Don't buy anything if you care about all those aspects. Consumerism is what gotten us into the mess we are living currently. Just because we focus on one aspect wouldn't necessarily make us blind on everything else. Its a tiny post shining light especially on EVs especially the ones most people proudly drive without knowing its sourcing.
But there are differences between how EVs are produced. Elons Musks Tesla claims that 0% of their Lithium and other minerals comes from artisanal mining, other manufacturers have no such policy.
Just because there are thousands killed by oil drilling in Africa each year, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t buy petroleum products at all?
I don't trust Musk's claims. He claimed he put a car in "space". He is a businessman, he says what people want to hear.
My comment on saying NO to EVs is reflecting what DJT said about globalists pushing ALL EVs policy, its about standing up to those who gaslighting us into believing in something just to fit their narratives. Don't believe a word I am saying either. Use discernment.
No, DJT didn’t say no to EVs because of a globalist plan, he said no to EVs because that will mean the death of the car industry in the US because China owns a huge part of the EV production. Huge difference.
I’m 100% certain that the EU and US can take back much of that lead if they put the energy into it.
The US has two big producers with great products; Tesla with the S3XY line, and Ford with the Mach-e. EU has VW iD line, Skoda, BMW, Mercedes etc.
One huge problem is that US under Biden, and EU since always have sold their soul to China. If the EU and US do what Trump did with tariffs, our competition against cheap Chinese products would be fair again.
EVs are the future, and we need to heat our act together to bring the production lines back to the west.
DJT normally doesn't comment too much on globalists' agendas. We have to look beyond words to see the intents. He needs to win votes of Americans, so he focuses on America first agenda.
EVs can be the future, but not with current technology. At some point there will be cars using ZPF energy not needing to rely on any external input. Until then we don't want to be riding those death traps remotely controlled by someone or AI who can be under influence of authorities.
Electric vehicles are: 1) inefficient-can only go a short distance, about 170 miles, before a recharge is needed, 2) there are not enough charging stations, so you are confined to close areas-which fits in with their 15 minute city plans, 3) electric vehicle charging stations use regular fuel sources to provide the power, which makes running the vehicle more costly, 4) unreliable regarding charging in cold weather, 5) vehicles are very costly for the average individual, 6) battery replacement is very expensive, 7) batteries are produced mainly in China which makes us further dependent on a foreign country, 8) just like windmills, electric batteries will provide further pollution in landfills leaching into the ground, 9) batteries so far are not recyclable, 10) when stuck in an accident, snowstorm, evacuation from a hurricane, you will use your charge up and further delay evacuation and put your life and others in danger. If this isn’t enough to make you say no, then I don’t know what is.
Also Li-ion batteries are far more prone to fire if battery overheats or cell is breached and these fires are not easy to control
All good points. One more point, though not related to environmental impact. Where I live some people use the charging stations (located in parking spaces next to shops) for parking. Probably the same folks who also illegally occupy handicap parking for convenience. No enforcement by police.
He didn't say anything about the environment here. Just that having an all-electric fleet would be made by the Chinese, taking work away from America.
He's promoting American businesses here, not necessarily gas powered vehicles.
That was my comment, because still many people even in this forum believe electric cars are environmentally friendly. Conceptually, yes, they are friendly. But practically, hell NO.
You start the title of your post with "DJT Truth", then proceed to make up your own quote that he didn't even say, in that same title.
You sound like you work for the MSM.
Rivian is an American-made electric truck. Trump's Truth here is that we need to stop outsourcing the jobs to China. For all we know, Trump could be promoting Rivian with that Truth. But instead you put your own spin on it that all electric vehicles are bad because electric... even though that isn't what Trump even truthed, despite the fact that you started your post with DJT Truth.
If you want to report on the news, at least keep it honest! We are the news now! But we're no better if we're just putting our own spins on things, like the MSM before us. We are the news, but only if we can report it accurately.
I am completely aware of DJT's intent. I am also allowed to express my opinion in addition to his, just like you are entitled to express yours on mine. That won't make us MSM. Just chill with your sharp comments.
Sure, but if you start your post with the words DJT Truth, naturally the "truth" would follow.
I drive an electric vehicle for local areas. I don't do it because i believe it to be environmentally friendly. I do it because i care about my wallet. I can get much more range, for much less money, than you do with gas....
But I'm not going to attack you for wanting to drive a gas powered vehicle, i just don't understand your hatred for electric vehicles. Especially since the Truth that you retruthed wasn't anti-electric cars at all!
I figured you drive one from your initial post itself. You have to defend it with all might on that account. I wasn't attacking anyone here, but globalists's false narratives about EVs. You enjoy your EV, nothing wrong with that since you already have it. This post is nothing to do with it.
In fact, 5 years ago, EV was to be my next purchase. But after learning about all the globalists' propagandas I backed out of that desire. If I had bought one before I woke up, I'd still be driving it, just like you said for wallet's sake. These gas prices are killing us and that's their intent.
We don't hate EVs per se, its all the narratives that surround EVs are what we attack. Just read others comments on this post.
I have nothing to correct regarding title. DJT's truth post is what I posted in the image and must be titled as such. Rest of the title is what I feel about EVs. If you don't like it, so be it. We can't please everyone. I had to grab the opportunity to expose falsity around EVs as they portray, what better way to do that along with DJT's post about EVs to grab more eyes. You dig?
Let UAW sink to the bottom - where they belong. ( Socialist UNION commies ) - Secondly - Boat motors , Outboard Motors - used to be 100HP Two Strokes / now - 250 HP 4 stroke monstrosities. Third - Motocrsoss bikes , used to be 250CC two Strokes - NOW 450CC Four Stroke's. Twice the moving parts , twice the expense , twice the gasoline. Fourth - back in the day , 327ci V8 / 350 hp / 350 ft lbs torc - today - 6.0 liter SMOG DOG chocked up Big Block. All these "Modern Conveniences" have taken us ONLY backwards. Keep it "Simple - Stupid" !
UAW has a ripple effect in Michigan where other industries follow suit. After this strike, not just the uaw workers in michigan will get a raise.
Loved the two stroke motorcycles as a kid. In HS circa 1970 I had an awesome cherry red Kawasaki 500 (3 cylinder 2 stroke) that beat anything else around.
Not talked about much...but all that BS about "the future is electric" has a lot to do with GM, Ford, etc being on board with the idea of EV's so they can close their engine plants. Instead of an engine, cars would come with cheap battery packs from China. While they charge the same, if not more, for a car with less range and utility. The govt "tax breaks" provide incentives for EV land yachts that cost $80k on up.
Car companies LOVE that business model. Force you to buy their product, charge you more, you get less. And EV's are worthless in 8 years when the battery pack shits the bed, thereby killing the used market.
Restricting people's mobility is part of the goal.
You don’t think “they” will be able to do that with petroleum?
Gas crisis, higher gas prices, but going electric is just more efficient.
For the mantra : “if you buy an EV, they will be able to control us more efficiently” to become true, it means that you expect “them” to win.
If “they” win, it doesn’t matter if you own an EV or ICE, there will be pretty effective ways for “them” to do what they want anyway.
“Oh you’ve filled 10 gallons of gas this month, no beef for you”.
No, it just means they are narcissists who constantly come up with schemes to try and make people dependent on them.
Lol. No.
They're getting decimated by white hats who fight on multiple fronts. The world is being reshaped, but the same old narcissists who control the criminal network and prior system are trying everything they can to keep people dependent and blind.
They are losing, but like all narcissists. The more they lose control they louder they scream and try to cover it up by creating lies.
MS-13 has been mass arrested and locked away in El Salvador. Honduras is doing the same. Land routes for drug cartels are being blocked which is why they are getting more violent and desperate.
The louder MSN screams, the more desperately they try to cover up their failings. The reason they try to doom here and elsewhere is because those that defend the former system are afraid of a world where decent people are allowed to live without THEM.
They have lost. They are losing. They will completely lose soon. One only has to look past the shrill screams of the MSN and the decimated howls of the remaining insurgent/ antifa to see it.
Of course the more they lose the louder they'll wail and project.
Not sure where your doom is coming from. Maybe you need to step back and see the big picture.
We’re discussing two different things now.
I agree 100% with what you wrote above.
My comment was aimed at your claim that EVs was part of the grand scheme of restricting our mobility.
My argument is for that to work, “they” must win,
I give them 0% chance of winning, hence the EV mobility issue is a non argument.
Sounds good. Glad we are clearing the misunderstanding then.
No electricity vehicles, Yes to electric chairs!
This!
They definitely will need to sit in those until they are sick of electricity..kek.
Chinese-built cars with chinese-built batteries? What could possibly go wrong?
In a nutshell ---- they are globalist ---- can't compete domestically.
They want to grab the market by the lithium balls
Biden will send a few bucks to the UAW leadership and like magic they will vote Biden... the Morons never learn their lessons.
UAW strikes soon this month. They are going to hit hard, so I've heard.
There are some positive environmental impacts of EVs if you compare them to shit.
For centuries mankind has reallocated shit from where people live to where they don’t.
Same thing with EVs, a coal fueled power plant will never make an EV more environmental friendly, but at least it reallocates the harmful pollutants (NoX etc) from where many people live like Atlanta to where fewer people live like Juliette.
I know that this forum hates EVs, but one thing’s for sure, EVs will drastically reduce local air pollution.
Its not just sourcing of energy. If you dig how lithium batteries are made, how poor children and others are forced into labor digging the mines for lithium in poor countries, you will start to hate them too.
If you think any other industry is any better, you’re pretty naive.
Everything you buy from China is made from (Chinese/African) slave laboring.
One problem with EVs are that owners and enthusiasts come out as “holier than thou”, and I absolutely see that aspect.
But to hate on EVs and turn a blind eye to everything else produced under the exact same circumstances are absurd.
I wouldn’t be able to by anything with that logic.
Don't buy anything if you care about all those aspects. Consumerism is what gotten us into the mess we are living currently. Just because we focus on one aspect wouldn't necessarily make us blind on everything else. Its a tiny post shining light especially on EVs especially the ones most people proudly drive without knowing its sourcing.
100% agree.
But there are differences between how EVs are produced. Elons Musks Tesla claims that 0% of their Lithium and other minerals comes from artisanal mining, other manufacturers have no such policy.
Just because there are thousands killed by oil drilling in Africa each year, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t buy petroleum products at all?
I don't trust Musk's claims. He claimed he put a car in "space". He is a businessman, he says what people want to hear.
My comment on saying NO to EVs is reflecting what DJT said about globalists pushing ALL EVs policy, its about standing up to those who gaslighting us into believing in something just to fit their narratives. Don't believe a word I am saying either. Use discernment.
No, DJT didn’t say no to EVs because of a globalist plan, he said no to EVs because that will mean the death of the car industry in the US because China owns a huge part of the EV production. Huge difference.
I’m 100% certain that the EU and US can take back much of that lead if they put the energy into it.
The US has two big producers with great products; Tesla with the S3XY line, and Ford with the Mach-e. EU has VW iD line, Skoda, BMW, Mercedes etc.
One huge problem is that US under Biden, and EU since always have sold their soul to China. If the EU and US do what Trump did with tariffs, our competition against cheap Chinese products would be fair again.
EVs are the future, and we need to heat our act together to bring the production lines back to the west.
DJT normally doesn't comment too much on globalists' agendas. We have to look beyond words to see the intents. He needs to win votes of Americans, so he focuses on America first agenda.
EVs can be the future, but not with current technology. At some point there will be cars using ZPF energy not needing to rely on any external input. Until then we don't want to be riding those death traps remotely controlled by someone or AI who can be under influence of authorities.