No. I'd give them a pass if they're so mentally disabled they legit don't know what they're doing. They are rare but they exist. If you've ever been to a state mental hospital, you know the kind of patient. The kind that have the mentality of a house pet.
As for "people screw up" there's a difference between a predator who targets toddlers, vs a 13-16yo kid that molests a cousin vs a 21yo horny college guy who knows better but decides to bump uglies with that 16yo jail bait anyway. He's an real idiot, and it's bad what he did, but does he deserve to be executed for it? Only if he reoffends. Stick him in prison, let him think about his bad decision for a decade. When he gets out hopefully he has a clearer head and is now 10 years separated from the influence of young adult hormones and girls gone wild pr0n. That 13-16yo range? That is the hard stuff. They need therapy and monitoring. No easy answers.
If the college dude doesn't learn tho... No more chances.
And don't get me started on pederasty. That's a social disease where the patients become the infective agent themselves.
If they are mentally disabled to the point where they don't know it's wrong, they should not be propped up or part of general civilization.
Also, 16 years old is age of consent in a lot of states so your example doesn't really work there either -- and also falls within most realms of Romeo and Juliet style legislation anyway.
I understand your point and I don't necessarily believe you're totally wrong, but I do believe a lot of it is wrong and you are also not articulating it very well.
Now, I am also in favor of cruel and unusual punishment for these things so you won't find a ton of sympathy from me -- it's better to strike the fear into the hearts of would-be offenders than to offer provisions that would allow them to feel safe making those "mistakes".
And there's a difference between that and "I know it's jail bait but imma hit it anyway I'm 20 and horny and she's into me" and someone who targets toddlers.
Both are bad. One is a predator. The other is an idiot who can hopefully learn from the error of his ways.
On 1 end or the other its still sex crimes against children, and the hair splitting you use is what they will use to avoid punishments, slippery slope. Look at the "trans" people going to female prisons...
This.
You'd give them a pass for sexually abusing a child??? Based on, 'nobody is perfect and people screw up??) That is truly f'd man. You need help.
No. I'd give them a pass if they're so mentally disabled they legit don't know what they're doing. They are rare but they exist. If you've ever been to a state mental hospital, you know the kind of patient. The kind that have the mentality of a house pet.
As for "people screw up" there's a difference between a predator who targets toddlers, vs a 13-16yo kid that molests a cousin vs a 21yo horny college guy who knows better but decides to bump uglies with that 16yo jail bait anyway. He's an real idiot, and it's bad what he did, but does he deserve to be executed for it? Only if he reoffends. Stick him in prison, let him think about his bad decision for a decade. When he gets out hopefully he has a clearer head and is now 10 years separated from the influence of young adult hormones and girls gone wild pr0n. That 13-16yo range? That is the hard stuff. They need therapy and monitoring. No easy answers.
If the college dude doesn't learn tho... No more chances.
And don't get me started on pederasty. That's a social disease where the patients become the infective agent themselves.
A cousin who molests anyone is just another predator. Ask me how I know.
Except, that's not what you said in your now deleted post. I urge you to rethink your original stance.
If they are mentally disabled to the point where they don't know it's wrong, they should not be propped up or part of general civilization.
Also, 16 years old is age of consent in a lot of states so your example doesn't really work there either -- and also falls within most realms of Romeo and Juliet style legislation anyway.
I understand your point and I don't necessarily believe you're totally wrong, but I do believe a lot of it is wrong and you are also not articulating it very well.
Now, I am also in favor of cruel and unusual punishment for these things so you won't find a ton of sympathy from me -- it's better to strike the fear into the hearts of would-be offenders than to offer provisions that would allow them to feel safe making those "mistakes".
Yeah see that's not ok.
And there's a difference between that and "I know it's jail bait but imma hit it anyway I'm 20 and horny and she's into me" and someone who targets toddlers.
Both are bad. One is a predator. The other is an idiot who can hopefully learn from the error of his ways.
Both are predators.
On 1 end or the other its still sex crimes against children, and the hair splitting you use is what they will use to avoid punishments, slippery slope. Look at the "trans" people going to female prisons...