Every electric vehicle should come equipped with an onboard gas or diesel generator. Then they would have a decent operating range and get recharged while running instead of having to wait for 6-8 hours for a charge. Still wouldn’t fix the limited life of the battery pack or the high cost of replacing the batteries but at least they would be more practical while they last.
You just described how freight trains work. If more time and energy was put into downsizing and making true hybrids more efficient than we wouldn't have to worry about electric. It's a silly concept. Electric carriages were already a thing over a hundred years ago. There's a reason why they didn't stick them.
Not really. Freight trains do not rely on a storage battery, they need to generate huge volumes of compressed air to operate the braking system, they need a massive amount of air to cool the traction motors and the multi stage current switching system to actually make them useful and efficient over the large operating torque and speed ranges of a train.
So.. they run the diesel when they operate. There is no hybrid mode. There is simply an DC or AC generator connected to the diesel for electrical power take off. This is not the only load consuming PTO power.
Hybrids are the worst of both worlds. You need two drive systems and probably two fully specialized transmissions to make the drive train efficient and you're still screwed for options if any part of the system fails to operate correctly. It's not at all ideal and is not a mini version of a train in any sense.
Plus imagine if you showed up to work driving a train as opposed to showing up driving an electric car. Who's getting a promotion? Not Soyjack, I tell you!
Battery storage improves 5-7% per year. We are near parity for cars, but probably only 70% for trucks. And for towing/hauling jobs like pushing a plow, batteries are probably only 30% where they need to be for trucks. Which means we are probably 10-15 years away from considering batteries seriously for snow plows.
And I am NOT factoring in the problems with cold weather and batteries.
But when you do factor in cold weather...hoo boy. Same for hot weather, actually. Both temperature extremes can affect the efficiency and the life of the battery, not to mention air conditioning in either extreme draining substantially more.
EVs are definitely a luxury item and if battery tech doesn't change, will be for the entire time they attempt to push it. After all, when it gets into the negatives like several states can, things get interesting if you don't have a fancy air conditioned garage and the funds to pay for it on green energy.
Yea, cold weather means expecting to use 20% more energy than normal. I have a 60 mile drive in the mountains I do regularly. Because it's the mountains, it will consume 120 miles of "range" from my battery, so I like to have 150 miles of "range" showing when I start. When it's cold, I won't start until I have 180 miles of "range" which is getting dangerously close to full on my aging battery.
Every electric vehicle should come equipped with an onboard gas or diesel generator. Then they would have a decent operating range and get recharged while running instead of having to wait for 6-8 hours for a charge. Still wouldn’t fix the limited life of the battery pack or the high cost of replacing the batteries but at least they would be more practical while they last.
You just described how freight trains work. If more time and energy was put into downsizing and making true hybrids more efficient than we wouldn't have to worry about electric. It's a silly concept. Electric carriages were already a thing over a hundred years ago. There's a reason why they didn't stick them.
Not really. Freight trains do not rely on a storage battery, they need to generate huge volumes of compressed air to operate the braking system, they need a massive amount of air to cool the traction motors and the multi stage current switching system to actually make them useful and efficient over the large operating torque and speed ranges of a train.
So.. they run the diesel when they operate. There is no hybrid mode. There is simply an DC or AC generator connected to the diesel for electrical power take off. This is not the only load consuming PTO power.
Hybrids are the worst of both worlds. You need two drive systems and probably two fully specialized transmissions to make the drive train efficient and you're still screwed for options if any part of the system fails to operate correctly. It's not at all ideal and is not a mini version of a train in any sense.
Plus imagine if you showed up to work driving a train as opposed to showing up driving an electric car. Who's getting a promotion? Not Soyjack, I tell you!
Yes. Sidenote - Here's an interesting vid from the Animagraffs series about diesel electric locos:
How a Diesel-Electric Locomotive Works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ0yIZgQeE
Kinda like hybrids.
Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk.........doesn't make the trip
This is a non issue because thanks to global warming it never snows anymore
Ha! Ha!
Grabbed NY hard by the snow balls
Battery storage improves 5-7% per year. We are near parity for cars, but probably only 70% for trucks. And for towing/hauling jobs like pushing a plow, batteries are probably only 30% where they need to be for trucks. Which means we are probably 10-15 years away from considering batteries seriously for snow plows.
And I am NOT factoring in the problems with cold weather and batteries.
But when you do factor in cold weather...hoo boy. Same for hot weather, actually. Both temperature extremes can affect the efficiency and the life of the battery, not to mention air conditioning in either extreme draining substantially more.
EVs are definitely a luxury item and if battery tech doesn't change, will be for the entire time they attempt to push it. After all, when it gets into the negatives like several states can, things get interesting if you don't have a fancy air conditioned garage and the funds to pay for it on green energy.
Yea, cold weather means expecting to use 20% more energy than normal. I have a 60 mile drive in the mountains I do regularly. Because it's the mountains, it will consume 120 miles of "range" from my battery, so I like to have 150 miles of "range" showing when I start. When it's cold, I won't start until I have 180 miles of "range" which is getting dangerously close to full on my aging battery.
When has failure ever deterred these people?
Electric snow plows? Hilarious! What's next, electric life vests?
There is no replacement for cubic inch displacement.
Derp.