There could be a rational explanation. Often messages need to be repeated with different people, especially during emergencies. Schumer is a Dem senator. Pelosi gets on the phone with Pence and he shares the info with the two.
Let's say Grassley, a Republican senator, shows up in the room. "What was that?" The message gets repeated.
This is a reasonable counter-explanation to the post.
It's been interesting to experience putting out a disinformation brushfire. It really isn't that hard when the facts are on your side.
I monitor for frens that have misinterpreted the info, send them a direct link that readily debunks it, and it's out. Someone stumbles in from Twitter or Truth again with the same incorrect info, send the link, the fire is out. Most will have the sense to update their follow list as a result, and be frostier in the future.
And the cost to spin up this sort of rumor has to be pretty substantial. It requires nurturing the shill accounts with credibility, and once the shill is identified its history of work is spoiled.
second: Pelosi has both hands available and is shaking them nervously
Not sure if the author is suggesting one of these is faked (e.g. Grassley was added artificially) or the author is saying that all people present on the videos have been aware on the message at that time.
EDIT: … or that both videos were aired by 2 different televisions with the same sound but different video. I guess the last is the most likely.
it is from the same video, just edited. upchuck and piglosi listening to pence, then grassley came in and pence needed to repeat message for all three. the middle was edited out' use discernment while viewing this stuff.
This was re-tweeted by Col McGregor. If you read all of the Devolution articles by PatelPatriot, he is convinced that Col McGregor is helping the current SecDef, Chris Miller.
It also appears to be two different cameras. The J6 Unselect Committee version seems like an amateur video. The CNN video appears to be shot with a better quality camera.
The question is which one is doctored and why? It could even be both. But, the CNN clip appears to have Pence dubbed over whatever Pelosi is saying. She is definitely talking and gesturing to match in the CNN clip, but all we hear is Pence.
Was this used as evidence in any of the J6 BS ? I recall the video filmed (edited) by Pelosis daughter before. It appears that the sound is dubbed over a different video?
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There could be a rational explanation. Often messages need to be repeated with different people, especially during emergencies. Schumer is a Dem senator. Pelosi gets on the phone with Pence and he shares the info with the two.
Let's say Grassley, a Republican senator, shows up in the room. "What was that?" The message gets repeated.
This is a reasonable counter-explanation to the post.
It's a reasonable explanation because that's exactly what happened when you bother to find and watch the primary source.
https://youtu.be/KpdKJ_5CIds?t=39
Thank you. Frens that do actual leg work are at the top of my totem pole.
It's been interesting to experience putting out a disinformation brushfire. It really isn't that hard when the facts are on your side.
I monitor for frens that have misinterpreted the info, send them a direct link that readily debunks it, and it's out. Someone stumbles in from Twitter or Truth again with the same incorrect info, send the link, the fire is out. Most will have the sense to update their follow list as a result, and be frostier in the future.
And the cost to spin up this sort of rumor has to be pretty substantial. It requires nurturing the shill accounts with credibility, and once the shill is identified its history of work is spoiled.
It's not two takes. Whoever created the video is trying to mislead us.
See the original here:
https://youtu.be/KpdKJ_5CIds?t=39
It's Pence stating that to Nancy and then re-iterating it a minute later when he realizes Schumer & Grassley are listening.
I would definitely put any influencer who continues to share it on a shill watchlist as it's been debunked.
Guys grassley is for sure a white hat
He used the Q line in his report and out loud in Congress many times "transparency brings accountability"
Q wouldn't say to trust people unless they had a role to play
WTF that's weird
It's a pretty standard disinformation op. Seed the community with incorrect data that undermines our effectiveness when we blindly share it.
See the original video here.
https://youtu.be/KpdKJ_5CIds?t=39
These are 2 different conversations:
one: Pelosi is carrying the phone in one hand
second: Pelosi has both hands available and is shaking them nervously
Not sure if the author is suggesting one of these is faked (e.g. Grassley was added artificially) or the author is saying that all people present on the videos have been aware on the message at that time.
EDIT: … or that both videos were aired by 2 different televisions with the same sound but different video. I guess the last is the most likely.
it is from the same video, just edited. upchuck and piglosi listening to pence, then grassley came in and pence needed to repeat message for all three. the middle was edited out' use discernment while viewing this stuff.
Same soundtrack cut differently and mounted with different videos recorded within couple of minutes, I guess.
This was re-tweeted by Col McGregor. If you read all of the Devolution articles by PatelPatriot, he is convinced that Col McGregor is helping the current SecDef, Chris Miller.
I'd put McGregor on the shill list then, or at least the "not very frosty for a Colonel" list.
https://youtu.be/KpdKJ_5CIds?t=39
It also appears to be two different cameras. The J6 Unselect Committee version seems like an amateur video. The CNN video appears to be shot with a better quality camera.
The question is which one is doctored and why? It could even be both. But, the CNN clip appears to have Pence dubbed over whatever Pelosi is saying. She is definitely talking and gesturing to match in the CNN clip, but all we hear is Pence.
So which one is it? Is nothing real anymore?
Does this mean Grassley is a black hat, and actor, or does it mean anything at all?
Well, Grassley seems to have provided enough clues that he is a white hat. So I would take the black hat option off the table.
This shows that they massaged the videos shown to the American people, maybe including Grassley on the second take to make it appear bi-partisan?
This
Fake video of Grassley hearing this. Imo it was Grassley who was trying to delay the vote.
Hmmm….
Was this used as evidence in any of the J6 BS ? I recall the video filmed (edited) by Pelosis daughter before. It appears that the sound is dubbed over a different video?