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Someone made billions shorting Israel stocks days before Hamas attack (www.haaretz.com) Waterloo. Rothschilds Again?!
posted 2 years ago by lsdQ 2 years ago by lsdQ +156 / -0
Did Hamas make millions betting against Israeli shares before October 7 massacre?
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– Brent75 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

Waterloo. Rothschilds. Same play different war.

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– Khakiclay 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

So isreal funds hamas, plans attack, shorts own market and drop defense level, then makes huge $? Lol

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– JackieDaytona74 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Yeah....just Hamas shorting stocks. Sure.

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– akira2501 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

As long as it's anyone other than the zionists!

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– Moosemeadow 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

911 airlines stocks were shorted, Israel stocks shorted, can’t find out who BUT Martha Stewart was accused of insider trading after she sold shares of ImClone Systems stock a day before the stock plummeted. Five months in prison. S.E.C. catches a family icon but couldn’t locate their own ass’s.

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– MAG768720 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

MGM stock (company that owned most of Mandalay Bay) was shorted (via put options) by George Soros just before the Vegas shooting.

Also, Martha Stewart was not convicted of insider trading. She was aquitted by the jury of that charge. She was convicted of lying to prosecutors. The "lie" was based on the idea that she said she did not tell her broker to sell the stock shortly after meeting the CEO of the company at a party. The evidence presented in court was an "FBI handwriting expert" who said he looked at the broker's ticket and concluded that Stewart had lied about the timing of things.

Later, the FBI "handwriting expert" was found to have committed perjury. He never actually looked at the evidence that he testified about.

Guess who the NY prosecutor was in that case?

James Comey.

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– IwantmyCountryback 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

But she’s in the club.

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– G45Colt 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It's a small world after all....

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– akira2501 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Five months in prison.

For lying to a federal agent.

The insider trading? They actually couldn't make that case. They rarely can.

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– Luminosity 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

When those in charge of protecting the citizenry get told there’s a high probability of an impending attack and subsequently choose to ignore the warnings, is it ethically improper for those who tried to warn them to then trade on that knowledge?

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– covfefetheordinary 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Was widely reported that Egypt warned them. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67082047

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– G45Colt 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It would be interesting to look at the records from 1941 and see who made bank in the stock market in December.

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– Pbman2 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I doubt it was them.

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– akira2501 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yes it's entirely improper.

Your obligation to continue warning people does not disappear on your first failed attempt.

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– Luminosity 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

From anon covfefetheordinary’s link on the topic —

“… intelligence official told the Associated Press news agency this week that Cairo had repeatedly warned the Israelis "something big" was being planned from Gaza. "We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. …”

Repeatedly. (My highlights since this cogent statement was apparently missed).

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– JoeRobinChancreJr 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Soros play?

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– PhDinNY 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Any elected office holder above dog catcher is apparently corrupt. We are lucky if we are able to elect those who are "less corrupt than the others".

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– Rardog900 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Dog catchers are corrupt in mex

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– PhDinNY 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

In Korea too :)

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– G45Colt 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Just a coincidence - since it was a surprise attack

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– Iknowstuff 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Fkn Bobby Axelrod, again! /s

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– TSWC 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Why wouldn't that surprise me? Many profited from 9/11. Larry Silverstein is just one of many. Not to forget to mention, Hamas is the creation of Israel, just like ISIS was by the CIA. I wonder if Pelosi had any investments going there. Hamas was created by Israeli and US intelligence services to counteract Yasser Arafat, Ron Paul explains

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– JollyRancherHard 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Many profited from 9/11.Larry Silverstein is just one of many.

How did he profit it from it?

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– TSWC 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

He purchased the towers for $3.2Bn six months before 9/11. Then successfully had the insurance for those buildings upgraded to include terrorist attacks using planes etc. Then he makes an insurance claim (fraud) netting $4.5Bn.

Larry Silverstein committed insurance fraud The September 11 Financial Heist: “Follow The 9/11 Money Trail” Silverstein Makes a Huge Profit off of the 9/11 Attacks Meet 'Lucky' Larry Silverstein Silverstein explains his 'fortunate' story on where he was on 9/11

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– JollyRancherHard 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

OK. Let's Examine this. Did he "net" $4.5 billion.

In April 2001, he leased the property and the buildings were 97% rented. He had four buildings and retails space

Number One and Two World Trade Center (the Twin Towers), Four and Five World Trade Center (two nine-story office buildings) and approximately 400,000 square feet of retail space.

https://www.panynj.gov/port-authority/en/press-room/press-release-archives/2001_press_releases/port_authority_toleaseworldtradecentertosilversteinpropertiesinc.html

So he has successful income generating buildings.

Then 9/11 happens and suddenly he is not generating income. This is going to affect his profit. He won't have income generating buildings until 2013

He also needs to build a new building. This will affect his profit.

One World Trade aka the Freedom Tower opened in Nov 2014. It cost 3.9 billion dollars.

4 World Trade opens in Nov 2013. It cost 1.67 billion dollars

https://web.archive.org/web/20150919170754/http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052970203920204577191371172049652

Then he makes an insurance claim (fraud) netting $4.5Bn.

In 2007 he got the final $2 billion of a total of $4.55 billion https://www.businessinsurance.com/article/20070527/story/100022003/silverstein,-insurers-settle-wtc-claims

Nearly six years of legal wrangling over the World Trade Center insurance claim ended last week with seven insurers agreeing to pay $2 billion to WTC leaseholder Silverstein Properties Inc.

#Accounting

So did he actually profit at all? Did he net even a single dollar?

Let's do some accounting.* We need to consider the credits and debits

#Debits $3.2 billion from the original billion lease. He didn't "buy" the towers. He leased them. So these means after 9/11 he was paying about $100+ million in rent for a giant hold in the ground.

$? billion 12/13 years of loss of income if 9/11 never happened. If rent is over 100 million a year, and the building in profitable than income would be something like 110 million a year, so this would be like 1.2 billion dollars

$?? million legal fees. 6 year battle with insurance companies would probably be multiple tens of millions of dollars

$350 million leasing fees. Just building the buildings in not enough, you need to lure tenants. They spent a ton of money to do this, helping tenants build out their office and in the case of Conde Nast, the anchor tenant of the Freedom Tower, they bought out the last 5 years of the existing lease. this number is part of the 3.9 building below, so we can ignore it

Building 1 $3.9 billion Building 4 $1.7 billion.

#Credits

$4.5 billion

So has he made a profit? Where? How? It seems like he gained a bunch more expenses.

. . . *I'm sure this is super simplified.

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– JollyRancherHard 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

So just as a comparison, he invested his billions in the stock market in April 2001, he would 5 times his money now.

He would have a 400% profit.

Seems like a whole lot let trouble too.

We can simplify this.

let's say somebody makes you this offer.

You buy a car for $32,000 and 6 months later you set it on fire for the chance of.

6 years later, an insurance company would give you $45,000. And you could start paying that money for a new car, but you wouldn't get your new car to use for ANOTHER 6 years. So don't have your $32 grand or it takes you 12 years to get another car, but you have $1,000 profit a year less years of legal fees.

Would you do it? I wouldn't.

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– TSWC 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Interestingly you make no mention of questioning the fact that he changed the insurance policy to reflect 'any' terrorist attack, which coincidently happened 6 months later, or thereabouts, and happened 'not' to be within one of the two towers that he always had a breakfast/morning meetings in, but not that morning of 9/11. Funny that his crystal ball was working very well, or that he was one of the conspirators of 9/11!

Larry Silverstein, Lewis Eisenberg made billions from destruction of Twin Towers

“And had the Trade Center not been demolished, this would have been the worst real estate investment in history. But because Silverstein doubled the insurance money from what the Port Authority had held, and managed to get lucky on September 11, he walked out of this with close to $5 billion in cash,” he pointed out.

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

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