Exactly how is Trump going to get rid of the FBI, legally?
Edited to add: what's with the downvoting?
Isn't one reason why the Great Awakening is taking so long is because it has to be done legally? That's what I've seen said here time and time again. For years.
But now people have a problem with things having to be done legally?
The FBI (originally the BOI or BI) was created by order of either (depending on which story you believe) Attorney General Bonaparte or AG Wickersham. There was a big fight about DOJ "borrowing" secret service agents so they wanted to create their own agents. Congress ended up funding them under Wickersham, but ultimately it was created from an executive order that was not signed by a president. The AG should be able to just shut them down on order of POTUS, but CONgress would surely meddle and possibly create a new FBI agency legally.
Then, comes the question what is necessary to cancel an executive order? I am lazy, so I will refer you to the Bar Association. Any of thousands of sources will yield the same result - the President can at any time cancel, amend or do whatever they choose with regards to any executive order from previous administrations or the current administration.
Thanks for the links. I've been looking through stuff about it on my own, and from what I'm reading, it's a bit more complicated than americanbar.org makes it seem.
I don't think it's quite as easy as just signing another EO. Many obstacles would have to be legally dealt with. And since Congress is glacially slow, it would most likely take years to get it resolved.
What would be the point, anyway? The next President would just sign another EO to reinstate it. In the end, it would just be a huge waste of time and money.
Well, it wouldn't be to disband, but to tear down. Every country requires a strong internal intelligence angecy, just not one so compromised.
Now, you do have a good point about it being more complex than this. I know exactly squat when it comes to constitutional law, but that doesn't prevent me from acting like an expert :).
Importantly, SCOTUS issued a controversial ruling blocking one of President Trump's EO actions - saying that it violated the America Procedures Act and was arbitrary and capricious. Something very similar could happen in this case, if this action were to be taken without due regard for procedure and public safety.
They desperately want reactions such that they can try to inflict marshal law is my strong hunch. They are trying to irritate lots of us to that breaking point.
hmmm....human nature seems to be different. Only a fringe majority do more than bitch and whine in the case of martial law. The majority go into a survival mentality and try to survive what is perceived to be a transient event. Interestingly, the majority want nothing more than their creature comforts. As a result, the tyrants exploit the patriotic acts of the fringe minority to reduce the creature comforts of the minority. The majority then turn on the patriots in the hopes of assuaging the wrath of their captors.
In short, most Americas will do nothing more than some reserved grumbling.
I think its to demoralize the Trump base. Those that went to J6 are full of influencers and those who don't sit on their hands and fight for this Country.
Scare citizens for standing up for their rights.
After they have scrapped the bottom of the barrel of people that were there, they will start going through social media posts on that day and start arresting people.
When the pendulum starts to swing back, they are not going to enjoy their career decisions....
Been saying this hopium since Benghazi, system is fucktardedly ghey.
FBI will be BYE-BYE when Trump gets in.
Exactly how is Trump going to get rid of the FBI, legally?
Edited to add: what's with the downvoting?
Isn't one reason why the Great Awakening is taking so long is because it has to be done legally? That's what I've seen said here time and time again. For years.
But now people have a problem with things having to be done legally?
Or did I just pop some copium balloons?
The FBI (originally the BOI or BI) was created by order of either (depending on which story you believe) Attorney General Bonaparte or AG Wickersham. There was a big fight about DOJ "borrowing" secret service agents so they wanted to create their own agents. Congress ended up funding them under Wickersham, but ultimately it was created from an executive order that was not signed by a president. The AG should be able to just shut them down on order of POTUS, but CONgress would surely meddle and possibly create a new FBI agency legally.
No reason for the down toots, but it's actually quite simple - an agency invented by executive order can be dissolved by executive order.
Says who? Where can I see anything legal or official that says that?
Start with some basic history. You can choose your source. All accurate sources will say the same thing - the FBI was created by executive order: https://trac.syr.edu/tracfbi/atwork/current/fbiHistory.html#:~:text=In%201908%2C%20over%20the%20objections,the%20subject%20of%20intense%20controversy.
Then, comes the question what is necessary to cancel an executive order? I am lazy, so I will refer you to the Bar Association. Any of thousands of sources will yield the same result - the President can at any time cancel, amend or do whatever they choose with regards to any executive order from previous administrations or the current administration.
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/public_education/resources/teacher_portal/educational_resources/executive_orders/
Thanks for the links. I've been looking through stuff about it on my own, and from what I'm reading, it's a bit more complicated than americanbar.org makes it seem.
I don't think it's quite as easy as just signing another EO. Many obstacles would have to be legally dealt with. And since Congress is glacially slow, it would most likely take years to get it resolved.
What would be the point, anyway? The next President would just sign another EO to reinstate it. In the end, it would just be a huge waste of time and money.
Well, it wouldn't be to disband, but to tear down. Every country requires a strong internal intelligence angecy, just not one so compromised.
Now, you do have a good point about it being more complex than this. I know exactly squat when it comes to constitutional law, but that doesn't prevent me from acting like an expert :).
Importantly, SCOTUS issued a controversial ruling blocking one of President Trump's EO actions - saying that it violated the America Procedures Act and was arbitrary and capricious. Something very similar could happen in this case, if this action were to be taken without due regard for procedure and public safety.
Well said.
The FBI must be completely unhinged. Why would they spend so much energy on this J6 scam? Just to piss off the people?? Maybe so!!!
They desperately want reactions such that they can try to inflict marshal law is my strong hunch. They are trying to irritate lots of us to that breaking point.
Martial Law isn't gonna cut it with pissed off Americans. Not gonna happen.
hmmm....human nature seems to be different. Only a fringe majority do more than bitch and whine in the case of martial law. The majority go into a survival mentality and try to survive what is perceived to be a transient event. Interestingly, the majority want nothing more than their creature comforts. As a result, the tyrants exploit the patriotic acts of the fringe minority to reduce the creature comforts of the minority. The majority then turn on the patriots in the hopes of assuaging the wrath of their captors.
In short, most Americas will do nothing more than some reserved grumbling.
Marshal = Martial....
If Elon ever gets his colony on Mars would it then become Martian Law?
I think its to demoralize the Trump base. Those that went to J6 are full of influencers and those who don't sit on their hands and fight for this Country.
Scare citizens for standing up for their rights.
It's going to be a great pleasure seeing Wray get his. As a start.
If she had made a pornographic video while there and distributed it on social media, they would have let her off with a stern warning.
Just dismantle that ridiculous outfit.
Did they through her into the gulag?
After they have scrapped the bottom of the barrel of people that were there, they will start going through social media posts on that day and start arresting people.