Yeah, I think that whole 9 month armed standoff with law enforcement after they were convicted and sentenced for tax evasion might have had something to do with them being given such a long jail sentence.
I'm not at all in favor of taxes, but posts like this are a bit duplicitous. Most people don't bother looking up things to verify info for themselves, and just launch straight into righteous indignitation.
But of course, your post is exactly why I remain skeptical of the people who advocate for people to "stop paying taxes", as if it's just that easy or even effective.
No, just that there's quite a bit more to it than "They asked what law required them to pay taxes and no one told them then they threw them in prison!".
They had a trial. They lost. The got sentenced to jail time. Then they holed up in their house for 9 months talking about how they'd rather die than be taken and booby trapped their property.
Plenty of people object to our tax system without doing any of that.
I think you're just upset someone called you out on leaving very important details out of your post.
How sad right? Why is our life so “temporary” in this current world.
You’re telling me that I can be arrested and jailed for my entire life because I sat at home and did nothing?
I believe Ed and Elaine had kids. Imagine it was your parent being arrested and jailed for life? How sad. Imagine working your entire life only to retire and life out the rest of your days in a cell that you paid for with your taxes and then go to jail cause you didn’t pay enough taxes 🤣🤣
The IRS put the Brown's passport applications into the record and asked them,
If you are not US citizens, why did you state you were on the passport applications?
There are many of us who have applied and received USA passports by attaching sworn, notarized explanatory statements to the application that deny federal citizenship. You have a right to do this and not simply rest on the jurat provided on the form.
Brushaber vs. Union Pacific was summarized by the Treasury in Treasury Decision 2313. In court filings Brushaber averred that he was a citizen of New York. He was also born in New York. Treasury, in TD 2313, talks only about nonresident aliens.
Here is a relevant video from a presenter at Dollar Vigilante's recent conference in Acapulco:
Christopher Gronski claims to have been in the courtroom watching the trial.
The definition of 'United States' across federal law is inconsistent:
This relates to disaster relief:
42 USC 5122(3) “United States” means the fifty States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.
Here's the general definition in the Internal Revenue Code that applies when there is not a more specific definition in a particular section:
26 USC 7701:
(9) United States
The term “United States” when used in a geographical sense includes only the States and the District of Columbia.
(10) State
The term “State” shall be construed to include the District of Columbia, where such construction is necessary to carry out provisions of this title.
Where did the 50 states go?
7 USC 349 (agriculture)
The term “State” means the States of the Union, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.
The Internal Revenue Code fails to mention the States of the Union.
On a deeper note, before Alaska and Hawaii became states, they were included in federal definitions of state and United States. The Alaska and Hawaii Omnibus Acts listed the changes to federal law by their admission as states of the union. The quick summary of their significance: Alaska and Hawaii were removed from federal definitions and not placed elsewhere!
“The gates of hell are locked from the inside”. C.S Lewis
To further expand on the obfuscation and fraud. Your status has everything to do with this situation, as well. It’s important to know your status in relation to the federal corporation and what this means.
3 things to point out that occurred prior to the creation of the fed and the private for profit collection agency known as the irs. Both the US citizen and District of Colombia (a foreign territory in relation to the States), in which the US citizen belongs to, were both created after the civil war, meaning Congress created a second class citizen in the 14th amendment, they then created its own separate and foreign state known as the District of Colombia, then created the United States corporation which is separate from the constitutional Republic.
USC 28 (15) "United States" means— (A) a Federal corporation;
Judicial note should be taken that the United States Constitution always denoted “Citizen” and “Person” in capital letters prior to the 14th Amendment; thereafter, “citizen” and “person” were not capitalized. The distinction between “citizens of the United States” and “Union States Citizens” has been fully recognized by the Congress and the Courts as follows:
"The term resident and citizen of the United States is distinguished from a Citizen of one of the several states, in that the former is a special class of citizen created by Congress”, see U.S. v. Anthony 24 Fed.829 (1873)
“We have in our political system, a government of the United States and a government of each of the several States. Each one of these governments is distinct from the others, and each has citizens of its own...” United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875).
“...he was not a citizen of the United States, he was a citizen and voter of the State...” “One may be a citizen of a State and yet not a citizen of the United States”. - McDonel v. The State, 90 Ind. 320 (1883)
.“That there is a citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a state ...” - Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236 (1927)
"A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..." - Kitchens v. Steele, 112 F.Supp 383Timothy
Elaine was released 4 years ago due to a related case ruling at SCOTUS. She promptly filed for divorce.
This is a complicated story, not a black & white one. It raises important questions on the legality of taxes, but it's not as simple of a "good versus evil" story as some would like it to be.
they had the balls to stand up to the system & the shameful thing is that no one came to their aide & fought alongside them.
its like how people will stand to the side with their phones out, while watching people get mugged or raped.
there is NO law stating we are required to pay income tax. as a matter of fact, the actual law says it is VOLUNTARY.
the problem begins once you pay in the first time, then they have you & its nearly impossible to get out of.
if you NEVER START, they have NOTHING to use to go after you.
to end the fed effectively, we need to either all band together & stop paying all at once, or tell our children & younger family members to never start.
i've shredded every form i've been given & never paid a penny. nothing has happened to me, nobody has shown up to my door. they have NOTHING on me.
if you've paid in at least once, then wise up to the scam & want to quit, it's very, very difficult. you (we) need numbers.
Stop paying taxes is fighting. What kind of fighting are you talking about, posting memes, and writing comments? As many people as possible should stop filing and paying their taxes. It's the only way to show we mean business, and we're saying no more. They can hire as many DEI IRS faggots as they want, they're mostly incompetent. They don't have the resources, or tranny power to go after millions of us.
Wow you pussy, did you know millions of people don't file their 1040's and have a legitimate legal argument to make. You just can't be like these idiots and have a 9 month armed stand off, if you lose in court be prepared to pay extra. But go ahead and keep being a lil bitch.
So what do you make of the millions of people who don't file their taxes, and are not going to prison? The IRS mostly targets people who filed their 1040, and why is that? because on the 1040 you check a little box that says "Under penalty of Perjury" all information you WILLINGLY give to them is then scrutinized in such a way that if they think you lied, then you committed a crime.
I don't know about you but I don't like waving my 5th amendment willingly, or willingly giving them information that I don't have to give them. Maybe you can show me where it says you are guilty of a crime if you don't wave your 5th amendment rights, and file a 1040 cause I can't find it.
So what do you make of the millions of people who don't file their taxes, and are not going to prison?
I think it's estimated that only 5% of people don't file taxes. That's a pretty small percentage, all things considered.
And of that 5%, those that make below a certain amount (I think it's something like 12,000 a year for a single person and 25,000 a year for married filing jointly) aren't required to file taxes (per the IRS). I would think that a good many of the rest don't make very much, just going by statistics.
Basically, the IRS isn't going after that 5%, because there just isn't much money in it for them.
Yeah, I think that whole 9 month armed standoff with law enforcement after they were convicted and sentenced for tax evasion might have had something to do with them being given such a long jail sentence.
I'm not at all in favor of taxes, but posts like this are a bit duplicitous. Most people don't bother looking up things to verify info for themselves, and just launch straight into righteous indignitation.
We need community notes like X
That would be such a good idea.
Definitely changes the perspective - thank you for the relevant details
But of course, your post is exactly why I remain skeptical of the people who advocate for people to "stop paying taxes", as if it's just that easy or even effective.
Police being used for a PRIVATE INSTITUTION which is the FED RESERVE, since it’s not a federal building. Is wrong.
They use police as mercenaries and hit men to do their bidding when somebody doesn’t play into the “system”
Sounds like the beast system of revelations and here you are to defend it
No, just that there's quite a bit more to it than "They asked what law required them to pay taxes and no one told them then they threw them in prison!".
They had a trial. They lost. The got sentenced to jail time. Then they holed up in their house for 9 months talking about how they'd rather die than be taken and booby trapped their property.
Plenty of people object to our tax system without doing any of that.
I think you're just upset someone called you out on leaving very important details out of your post.
What has happened to our country???
How sad right? Why is our life so “temporary” in this current world.
You’re telling me that I can be arrested and jailed for my entire life because I sat at home and did nothing?
I believe Ed and Elaine had kids. Imagine it was your parent being arrested and jailed for life? How sad. Imagine working your entire life only to retire and life out the rest of your days in a cell that you paid for with your taxes and then go to jail cause you didn’t pay enough taxes 🤣🤣
They're being made an example of what will happen to you slaves if you get out of line.
Elain got out in 2020.
A waste of a life. now.
https://www.wmur.com/article/edward-brown-new-hampshire-jail/39125873
Undercover agents were undercover as 'supporters' to get close. Pay tax or die.
I listened to that entire ordeal in Infowars. They called in regularly.
The IRS put the Brown's passport applications into the record and asked them,
If you are not US citizens, why did you state you were on the passport applications?
There are many of us who have applied and received USA passports by attaching sworn, notarized explanatory statements to the application that deny federal citizenship. You have a right to do this and not simply rest on the jurat provided on the form.
Brushaber vs. Union Pacific was summarized by the Treasury in Treasury Decision 2313. In court filings Brushaber averred that he was a citizen of New York. He was also born in New York. Treasury, in TD 2313, talks only about nonresident aliens.
Here is a relevant video from a presenter at Dollar Vigilante's recent conference in Acapulco:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/z7LdySQ40PvN/
I dont think Ed & Elain claimed to not be citizens, but rather it was unconstitutional
Christopher Gronski claims to have been in the courtroom watching the trial.
The definition of 'United States' across federal law is inconsistent:
This relates to disaster relief:
42 USC 5122(3) “United States” means the fifty States, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.
Here's the general definition in the Internal Revenue Code that applies when there is not a more specific definition in a particular section:
26 USC 7701:
(9) United States
The term “United States” when used in a geographical sense includes only the States and the District of Columbia.
(10) State
The term “State” shall be construed to include the District of Columbia, where such construction is necessary to carry out provisions of this title.
Where did the 50 states go?
7 USC 349 (agriculture)
The term “State” means the States of the Union, Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands.
The Internal Revenue Code fails to mention the States of the Union.
On a deeper note, before Alaska and Hawaii became states, they were included in federal definitions of state and United States. The Alaska and Hawaii Omnibus Acts listed the changes to federal law by their admission as states of the union. The quick summary of their significance: Alaska and Hawaii were removed from federal definitions and not placed elsewhere!
“The gates of hell are locked from the inside”. C.S Lewis
To further expand on the obfuscation and fraud. Your status has everything to do with this situation, as well. It’s important to know your status in relation to the federal corporation and what this means.
3 things to point out that occurred prior to the creation of the fed and the private for profit collection agency known as the irs. Both the US citizen and District of Colombia (a foreign territory in relation to the States), in which the US citizen belongs to, were both created after the civil war, meaning Congress created a second class citizen in the 14th amendment, they then created its own separate and foreign state known as the District of Colombia, then created the United States corporation which is separate from the constitutional Republic.
USC 28 (15) "United States" means— (A) a Federal corporation;
Judicial note should be taken that the United States Constitution always denoted “Citizen” and “Person” in capital letters prior to the 14th Amendment; thereafter, “citizen” and “person” were not capitalized. The distinction between “citizens of the United States” and “Union States Citizens” has been fully recognized by the Congress and the Courts as follows:
"The term resident and citizen of the United States is distinguished from a Citizen of one of the several states, in that the former is a special class of citizen created by Congress”, see U.S. v. Anthony 24 Fed.829 (1873)
“We have in our political system, a government of the United States and a government of each of the several States. Each one of these governments is distinct from the others, and each has citizens of its own...” United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875).
“...he was not a citizen of the United States, he was a citizen and voter of the State...” “One may be a citizen of a State and yet not a citizen of the United States”. - McDonel v. The State, 90 Ind. 320 (1883)
.“That there is a citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a state ...” - Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236 (1927)
"A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..." - Kitchens v. Steele, 112 F.Supp 383Timothy
now I see why myspace died, they had a page on it and our government could not have that.
Elaine was released 4 years ago due to a related case ruling at SCOTUS. She promptly filed for divorce.
This is a complicated story, not a black & white one. It raises important questions on the legality of taxes, but it's not as simple of a "good versus evil" story as some would like it to be.
they had the balls to stand up to the system & the shameful thing is that no one came to their aide & fought alongside them.
its like how people will stand to the side with their phones out, while watching people get mugged or raped.
there is NO law stating we are required to pay income tax. as a matter of fact, the actual law says it is VOLUNTARY.
the problem begins once you pay in the first time, then they have you & its nearly impossible to get out of.
if you NEVER START, they have NOTHING to use to go after you.
to end the fed effectively, we need to either all band together & stop paying all at once, or tell our children & younger family members to never start.
i've shredded every form i've been given & never paid a penny. nothing has happened to me, nobody has shown up to my door. they have NOTHING on me.
if you've paid in at least once, then wise up to the scam & want to quit, it's very, very difficult. you (we) need numbers.
Just pay the taxes and keep fighting. Its hard to fight from inside a jail cell
Nah, go look up the quote “let them complain all they want, as long as they still pay taxes”
Stop paying taxes is fighting. What kind of fighting are you talking about, posting memes, and writing comments? As many people as possible should stop filing and paying their taxes. It's the only way to show we mean business, and we're saying no more. They can hire as many DEI IRS faggots as they want, they're mostly incompetent. They don't have the resources, or tranny power to go after millions of us.
Ok enjoy jail
Wow you pussy, did you know millions of people don't file their 1040's and have a legitimate legal argument to make. You just can't be like these idiots and have a 9 month armed stand off, if you lose in court be prepared to pay extra. But go ahead and keep being a lil bitch.
Ok cool. Enjoy prison.
So what do you make of the millions of people who don't file their taxes, and are not going to prison? The IRS mostly targets people who filed their 1040, and why is that? because on the 1040 you check a little box that says "Under penalty of Perjury" all information you WILLINGLY give to them is then scrutinized in such a way that if they think you lied, then you committed a crime.
I don't know about you but I don't like waving my 5th amendment willingly, or willingly giving them information that I don't have to give them. Maybe you can show me where it says you are guilty of a crime if you don't wave your 5th amendment rights, and file a 1040 cause I can't find it.
I think it's estimated that only 5% of people don't file taxes. That's a pretty small percentage, all things considered.
And of that 5%, those that make below a certain amount (I think it's something like 12,000 a year for a single person and 25,000 a year for married filing jointly) aren't required to file taxes (per the IRS). I would think that a good many of the rest don't make very much, just going by statistics.
Basically, the IRS isn't going after that 5%, because there just isn't much money in it for them.
Just my opinion, obviously.