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Teach it in the schools. Founders knew. Many of us never forget. (media.scored.co)
posted 2 years ago by Magnify 2 years ago by Magnify +83 / -0
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– Dee68 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

Stop the abdication of parental responsibility.

Most of this should be taught at home.

My mom taught me and my siblings all of this (except for coding and self-defense). This was in the 70s and 80s.

We went to public school.

We complain about the horrendous job public schools do and then we want to give them MORE responsibility!?!?!

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– Litecola2 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

This. Also, civic duty is missing from the poster, as well as foundational knowledge of how USA is different and what its entire premise is based on (natural law/ God-given rights), and from which civilizations and empires the philosophy derived. By the way, were all the founders not home schooled themselves?

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– Dee68 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Civics.
I was not taught this as a separate class in public school. US History classes might have touched on it depending on the teacher.

Mom and others modeled civic duty, so it was "caught" way more than "taught."

Home school classes where I teach has a separate class in multiple grades called civics.

My US History classes cover separation of powers and God given rights as well. My students all know that I will go ballistic and they will be in for a lengthy lecture repeat if they answer that their God given rights come from the government. 🙂

Founding fathers. Yes, I believe most were taught at home. I cannot recall if any were sent back to England for a "proper" education.

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– Litecola2 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Good on you, on multiple levels!!! We've got The Federalist Papers lined up and as much source as we've found so far, but if I find a co-op teacher like you, I'd be happy to hand over our little minds to hear it from someone else for a change!

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– Dee68 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ty.

I think that the coop teaches Civics using abeka for the younger grades. Not sure what the high school uses - it might be teacher developed.

For the US History classes I teach, I incorporate a special unit for high school using the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and the Bill of Rights. I also have them watch the RFKJ video from Dec 2020 where he speaks about the violations against the bill of rights; and they read a letter from one one the J6 prisoners and how their rights were trampled upon.

I want them to realize that we need to be ever vigilant against tyranny and that our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights are always being challenged.

BTW, inherent in the Declaration of Independence is the right to revolt. It is often overlooked.

Kris Anne Hall (Liberty University) is an excellent resource and I echo her in my classroom.

Justice Scalia has spoken about how the separation of powers is the one element that really sets our country apart (not so much the bill of rights as other countries have these) and I work this into wherever I can in my lectures.

I attempt to teach my students that we have seen the encroachment of tyranny throughout our history starting with the xyz affair and to watch for this especially when there is a crisis.

The Federalist Papers are on my reading list. I know about certain arguments and dip in these when the situation presents itself, but I really want to study these on a deep level.

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– HOSEQ 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Right, as IF these Hypocrites need any more platform so they can do More Damage....

And then there's this Hypocrite posting damned near one of the dumbest things I've ever read in GAW....

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– treepainter 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Knowing the evil of men, they would only authorize it if they could control it. The manipulation of language and editing is the best form of lying.

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– Litecola2 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Well, if Latin and ancient Greek were once again taught in schools, we could eliminate much of the errors (accidental and purposeful) in translations...

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– SOGWAP 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Get a strongs concordance. Look up the words to see where they've been watered down or improperly supplied to support the false doctrines that man made religion uses to keep men defeated and controlled. It is possible still to rightly divide the Word as we are commanded to do when we study.

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– SOGWAP 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Taxes. The only things kid should be taught about that is the unconstitutionality of them.

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– winn 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

bit of sauce:

https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/one_nation_under_god/3/

The Aitken Bible Resolution is not a specific document that can be found in the Library of Congress or other archives. Rather, it refers to the collective actions and decisions made by the United States Congress in 1782, which culminated in the endorsement of the Aitken Bible for use in schools and public institutions. To learn more about this historical event, you may find it helpful to consult primary sources from the era, such as newspapers, letters, and other historical documents. Additionally, several secondary sources, including books and articles, have been written about the Aitken Bible and its significance in American history. Some recommended sources include:

  • David Barton's "Original Intent: The Courts, the Constitution, and Religion"

  • Mark A. Noll's "America's God: From Jonathan Edwards to Abraham Lincoln"

  • George Marsden's "The Twilight of the American Enlightenment: The 1790s and the Coasts of Early Romanticism"

These sources can provide further insight into the Aitken Bible and the historical context in which it was endorsed by the United States Congress.

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– Litecola2 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Copying for research and application in home school, thank you!!

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– winn 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

yw<3

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– HOSEQ 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The very best books to use in order to understand how and what the Founders used in order to set up the Form of Government we are supposed to have, versus the type of Rulership we currently have::

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/law-of-nations/812E3C4E83DDA2AF494F1C6ABBDCFB82

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– Litecola2 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Excellent, but seventy bucks just to access a digital edition... I think we can get The Law for a dollar from the Tuttle Twins people, or Toqueville from Project Gutenberg. I'll search on it though and try to get a better deal, thanks pede!

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– HOSEQ 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I usually go to Avalon or some such for it....

This is a good Link to Download it, I'm not sure why it's blocked by Mozilla as possibly Dangerous.... Anyway, I set it to go to the First page of the important reading, hence skipping all the boring Opinions and crap....

https://files.libertyfund.org/files/2246/Vattel_1519_LFeBk.pdf#%5B%7B%22num%22%3A308%2C%22gen%22%3A0%7D%2C%7B%22name%22%3A%22Fit%22%7D%5D

And here's another link::

https://www.foundationfortruthinlaw.org/Files/The-Law-of-Nations-or-the-Principles-of-Natural-Law-(1758)Emmeric.pdf

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– deltadog 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

IMO the bible, at least the first half the old testament is a story of manipulation, control, and slavery through "spitual indoctrination". It should be read in school to teach folks how gullible the Jews were back in the day.

Or it's real history about a racist alien befriending a tribe of slaves promising control of the world to their offspring in exchange for cutting off their foreskins, and mandatory draft into a military to smite all opposition.

Teach the children both.

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– SOGWAP 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

The old testament is the account of what God went through to bring Jesus Christ while working with fallen man. If you try to live under the law then all of Christ works are nullified. Jesus has made us free from the law of sin and death. Romans states the old testament is for our learning those very things. The church epistles from romans to Thessalonians are the doctrinal epistles we are to renew our minds to. That is where the more than abundant life that Christ said in John 10:10 is taught as we align our minds with the spiritual realities Christ accomplished for us. We serve a Risen Savior.

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– Standingoak 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Because Church Leaders like the Pharisees were not corrupt ? Like today ?

Sometimes it's not what was put into a written work , but what was left out.

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– deltadog 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I've been struggling to get through the old testament. Like 35 hours in and the old testament is highly repetitive. Looking forward to the new testament because I'm sure this religion has some redeeming qualities later in the book else why would it still be around? A theory of mine is Jesus was too good so the authors of the old testament couldn't beat him so they had him crucified and then assimilated his lectures into the old testaments consolidating powers to make the control structure more peaceful appearing.

My biggest gripe with the old testament is god never reveals himself . hasn't for like thousands of years. But with his buddy Moses? Moses would like snap his fingers and god would be there. Somebody working on the sabbath? God appears says stone him, somebody not having faith in front of god? God sends a fiery tornado down on him. Kids making fun of bald Jews? God sends bears down to maul those kids. God was truly omnipresent.

But nowadays, or let's say last 3000 years or so god just doesn't show up for Any reason. Not even the holocaust, holodomir, Ziltch. The opposite of omnipresent, god is now nonexistant.

So the second half of this book better be incredible because the first half reads like a horror movie where you can point out the murderer but the folks on the movie keep falling into the same trap.

For what its worth I love the gospel of John, great accounts and parables/analogies. I do believe in a unified god, just the old dogma is incredibly bitter pill to swallow and makes little sense. I'm gonna continue on the bible and hopefully it makes a combeback in the second half.

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– RoosterHeadBad 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I just finished the Old Testament. It took me 2 years. Genealogy was the hardest for me. The repetition, as I understand it, was purposely done to stress an important point. Sometimes dry, sometimes mind blowing, and 100% about the coming of the future Messiah. The typology is what blows my mind…simply amazing how intelligent God is.

I don’t understand your viewpoint that God didn’t reveal Himself in the OT. That is all He did, over and over again. Adam & Eve, Abraham, Lot, Noah, Enoch, David, Solomon, etc, etc. God also revealed Himself through His Prophets. You may want to revisit this.

Good luck on your journey.

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– deltadog 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'm saying god hasn't appears in 3000 years but he was at the whim of moses. It reeks of a created god utilized for manipulation. If god was real why doesn't he respect us as much as he did the old Jews? Surely once every X amount of years he should show up be hes like nah O loved moses more than and of you children in the last 3000 years sorry. but I already read the part of the bible that said basically, "thats the last time god ever really knew and talked to a human" (In reference to Moses, how convenient)

Said differently it's hard to be judged by my merit in belief when the Jews of old had meetings with god on the weekly, and my whole life I have seen no proof of the (old testment god).

To burn me for not believing but to save Jews who were shown multiple times over the course of a life the literal power of god via all his terrible wonders is hypocrisy, unfair, unjust, etc.

I'd surmise the reason god hasn't appeared is because god essentially cannot appear on this plane of existence. Accounts of his appearance prior are due to likely psychoactive substances and trance states that feed off the subconscious. Combine that with alliances of folks who seek control and you've got yourself the first form of government that could cross nation barriers and draft an army for God.

All that being said I'm going to keep reading, I really have to see the transition to the new testament. IMO it looks like the new testament or the power structure that holds it is still corrupt. Not many folks trust the pope. I'm not saying the subject it is writing about is corrupt, just their interpretation of it is corrupt similar to how the media spins topics.

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– HopelesslyHopeful 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Replace taxes with financial acumen, the taxes could be simplified, greatly reduced, or removed in a way that allows the citizens to fund projects without the complicated time consuming money grabbing that it is today.

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– Archon69 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It should be taught in schools that federal taxes are constitutional as excise taxes, or as taxes that only apply to federal people or in places where the federal government has exclusive jurisdiction (forts, enclaves, territories).

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– penisse 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Yay for the Bible, but I am am also pleased to see coding as one essential skill. Besides the obvious geekiness, coding is great to mentally assemble puzzles and develop understanding of complex situations.

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– Narg 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Reading?

Writing?

Arithmetic?

We're not even seeing THOSE being taught (or taught well) in many schools today.

"Everything government touches turns to shit."

Get government completely OUT of the education / propaganda business.

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– HOSEQ 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

OP is not just Confused, but confusing....

Probably made by some Leftist Infiltrator....

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– Magnify [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

https://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/congress-authorizes-first-printing-bible.html

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