Actually the settlers BOUGHT the land from the Arabs living there long before Israel was a state and they lived in peace. They did not just invade the country. After WW2, the United Nations voted to make Israel a nation---they didn't found itself---- since there were half a million living there already under British rule. In 1948 when the combined armies of the Muslim world came to drive the Jews into the sea there were less than a million Israel civilians and the Jews fought them to a standstill. If you cannot see God's hand in that, you are not looking. It wasn't because they are a righteous people, it is because God said He would bring Israel back into the land in the end times for HIS names sake so people would know He is God. Ezek 36. Israel is far form a righteous people. They are devious and trust in their own power through corruption and deception. THIS is the reason they will go through a time known in the Bible as "Jacob's Trouble". If you believe in God and believe the Bible is His spoken Word, then everything you see today is just as He said it would happen. The entire world is turning against Jerusalem/Israel as stated in Zach. 12. Biblical times indeed!
Dispensationalism, which you're spouting here, was created by Manuel Lacunza, Jesuit priest, who wrote a book with a Jewish pseudonym to fool the Protestants.
The Vatican made the book more enticing to Protestants by adding it to their list of banned books.
Edward Irving took the bait and translated Lacunza's book into English.
John Nelson Darby expanded on Lacunza's work, and Cyrus Scofield popularized it in the United States by including Darby's interpretations in the footnotes of his Bible.
The Rockefellers bought many colleges and universities to take over medicine.
They didn't stop with medicine. Their theological seminaries began teaching Dispensationalism and captured much of pastors across various denominations.
In other words, the prophecy in Daniel 9 has already been fulfilled. There is no moving the last 7 years of that prophecy ("Jacob's Trouble") to an undetermined future time without breaking the chiastic structure of the text.
Not hardly. Jesus has yet to rule from the throne of David and He will after the 7 year Tribulation. You can believe Bible or not. Every prophecy that God made and has been fulfilled has been fulfilled literally just as the Bible stated. Believe what you want.
Israel was given 490 years to end their rebeliion against God, as prophesied by Daniel before their release from Babylonian captivity and rebuilding the second temple.
Daniel 9:24-27
24 Seventy weeks (490 years in prophetic years) are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Do you agree Jesus is the Messiah? Good.
The prophecy says Messiah will be cut off (crucified) but not for himself. I'm sure you can agree that happened, right?
The confusion comes when people interpret Daniel 9:27 as referring to the Antichrist. This verse actually refers to Jesus's earthly ministry.
"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"
Many Israelites became his disciples and many more were converted after the crucifixion.
"and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease"
Matthew 27:50-53
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
The veil of the temple was torn in two pieces signifying the end of the sacrifices and oblations. The saints who were risen from the dead were the firstfruits of the New Covenant.
How many pastors have you heard give sermons about the saints who rose the dead after the Resurrection?
"and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
Jesus prophesied the complete destruction of the second temple, confirming this judgment.
He mentions this 490 year prophecy as a parable.
Matthew 18:21-22
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
70 X 7 = 490
Matthew 24:2
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
In 70 A.D., the temple was burned down by the Roman soldiers and they tore what remained completely apart to get the gold and silver that melted, thus fulfilling the prophecy.
Jerusalem was totally destroyed and as Jesus had predicted - not one stone was left upon another. When the Temple was set on fire the Roman soldiers tore apart the stone to get the melted gold. The Menorah and vessels were carried to Rome and the treasury was robbed.
As Daniel had predicted the Temple was destroyed after the Messiah had come, not before.
The 490 year prophecy ended 3.5 years after Messiah's death, when the high priest ordered Stephen to be stoned to death for preaching the Gospel message.
There's a reason Saul was there to witness Stephen's death, and after his conversion, he was renamed as Paul and appointed Apostle to the Gentiles.
As Paul himself explains in the book of Romans, the natural branch (Israel) was cut off, but the Jews are able to be grafted back in IF they accept Jesus as Messiah.
Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
The entire chapter of Romans 11 explains the Israel is the ROOT and we are grafted into the root.
The 69 weeks ended when the temple was destroyed in 70AD and we are now in the "time of the Gentiles" and the 70th week will not begin until the Church is removed.
You can quote all that other false doctrine to someone else.
The false doctrine is the 70th week of Daniel has been fulfilled. Indeed Israel will accept the Messiah after going through the Tribulation as is in Zach 12:10 states but we are in the church age right now. A period between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel. When the fullness of the Gentiles is over, the Church age, God will deal with Israel once again. Romans 11.
The Jewish people and Muslim Palestinians both find themselves in a stew which involves a Zionist power grab! They are both victims; they just cannot see how they are used for total control!
I’m a bit confused here. Isn’t she taking the party line and blaming the whole thing on the Palestinians? Which normally I would expect from a Hollywood Jew, but she never played by the rules.
Then she said big Mike was a man. Then she wad dead.
When you are in the entertainment industry telling the truth tends to get you unalived.
Sad but true
The stage was set, the actors prepared, and they set out to deceive the world and enslave us all.
And then the trap was sprung and the people woke up from their sleep and were amazed. Suddenly, they all agreed and evil had no place to hide.
I wonder what we'll do.
Here name was Joan Rivers.
" Palestinians started it" has got to be the stupidest spin Ive heard. Supported by no evidence, did you catch that?
Isn't she Jewish? So overall not surprising she has that take.
Actually the settlers BOUGHT the land from the Arabs living there long before Israel was a state and they lived in peace. They did not just invade the country. After WW2, the United Nations voted to make Israel a nation---they didn't found itself---- since there were half a million living there already under British rule. In 1948 when the combined armies of the Muslim world came to drive the Jews into the sea there were less than a million Israel civilians and the Jews fought them to a standstill. If you cannot see God's hand in that, you are not looking. It wasn't because they are a righteous people, it is because God said He would bring Israel back into the land in the end times for HIS names sake so people would know He is God. Ezek 36. Israel is far form a righteous people. They are devious and trust in their own power through corruption and deception. THIS is the reason they will go through a time known in the Bible as "Jacob's Trouble". If you believe in God and believe the Bible is His spoken Word, then everything you see today is just as He said it would happen. The entire world is turning against Jerusalem/Israel as stated in Zach. 12. Biblical times indeed!
Dispensationalism, which you're spouting here, was created by Manuel Lacunza, Jesuit priest, who wrote a book with a Jewish pseudonym to fool the Protestants.
The Vatican made the book more enticing to Protestants by adding it to their list of banned books.
Edward Irving took the bait and translated Lacunza's book into English.
John Nelson Darby expanded on Lacunza's work, and Cyrus Scofield popularized it in the United States by including Darby's interpretations in the footnotes of his Bible.
The Rockefellers bought many colleges and universities to take over medicine.
They didn't stop with medicine. Their theological seminaries began teaching Dispensationalism and captured much of pastors across various denominations.
In other words, the prophecy in Daniel 9 has already been fulfilled. There is no moving the last 7 years of that prophecy ("Jacob's Trouble") to an undetermined future time without breaking the chiastic structure of the text.
Not hardly. Jesus has yet to rule from the throne of David and He will after the 7 year Tribulation. You can believe Bible or not. Every prophecy that God made and has been fulfilled has been fulfilled literally just as the Bible stated. Believe what you want.
Israel was given 490 years to end their rebeliion against God, as prophesied by Daniel before their release from Babylonian captivity and rebuilding the second temple.
Daniel 9:24-27
24 Seventy weeks (490 years in prophetic years) are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
Do you agree Jesus is the Messiah? Good.
The prophecy says Messiah will be cut off (crucified) but not for himself. I'm sure you can agree that happened, right?
The confusion comes when people interpret Daniel 9:27 as referring to the Antichrist. This verse actually refers to Jesus's earthly ministry.
"And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week"
Many Israelites became his disciples and many more were converted after the crucifixion.
"and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease"
Matthew 27:50-53
50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
The veil of the temple was torn in two pieces signifying the end of the sacrifices and oblations. The saints who were risen from the dead were the firstfruits of the New Covenant.
How many pastors have you heard give sermons about the saints who rose the dead after the Resurrection?
"and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate."
Jesus prophesied the complete destruction of the second temple, confirming this judgment.
He mentions this 490 year prophecy as a parable.
Matthew 18:21-22
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
70 X 7 = 490
Matthew 24:2
And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
In 70 A.D., the temple was burned down by the Roman soldiers and they tore what remained completely apart to get the gold and silver that melted, thus fulfilling the prophecy.
Jerusalem was totally destroyed and as Jesus had predicted - not one stone was left upon another. When the Temple was set on fire the Roman soldiers tore apart the stone to get the melted gold. The Menorah and vessels were carried to Rome and the treasury was robbed.
As Daniel had predicted the Temple was destroyed after the Messiah had come, not before.
https://www.templemount.org/destruct2.html
The 490 year prophecy ended 3.5 years after Messiah's death, when the high priest ordered Stephen to be stoned to death for preaching the Gospel message.
There's a reason Saul was there to witness Stephen's death, and after his conversion, he was renamed as Paul and appointed Apostle to the Gentiles.
As Paul himself explains in the book of Romans, the natural branch (Israel) was cut off, but the Jews are able to be grafted back in IF they accept Jesus as Messiah.
Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
The entire chapter of Romans 11 explains the Israel is the ROOT and we are grafted into the root.
The 69 weeks ended when the temple was destroyed in 70AD and we are now in the "time of the Gentiles" and the 70th week will not begin until the Church is removed.
You can quote all that other false doctrine to someone else.
As I said, you're a Dispensationalist.
The 490 years were fulfilled as prophesied.
Yes, I am but only because the Bible says so.
Israel, the natural branch, can be grafted back in by accepting Messiah.
How is that false doctrine?
The false doctrine is the 70th week of Daniel has been fulfilled. Indeed Israel will accept the Messiah after going through the Tribulation as is in Zach 12:10 states but we are in the church age right now. A period between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel. When the fullness of the Gentiles is over, the Church age, God will deal with Israel once again. Romans 11.
The Jewish people and Muslim Palestinians both find themselves in a stew which involves a Zionist power grab! They are both victims; they just cannot see how they are used for total control!
So Joan Rivers (Joan Alexandra Molinsky) was a hardcore ZI✡️NIST. Ok, now move along…
Translation: If New Jersey was firing rockets at New York Jews, we'd wipe them out.
Joan was so full of life prior to that last "facelift"
I’m a bit confused here. Isn’t she taking the party line and blaming the whole thing on the Palestinians? Which normally I would expect from a Hollywood Jew, but she never played by the rules.
Anything pro Israel on here is not going to fair well! Jus sayin!