US Supreme Court in Trump ruling declares ex-presidents have immunity for official acts
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Of course a party line vote.
A lot of ways to interpret this ruling from a broader strategic perspective.
Here's the link to the official ruling: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf
Some analysis from Jonathan Turley on X(https://x.com/JonathanTurley/status/1807785241588744694):
No protection for unofficial acts. So the issue is whether what constitutes official acts. It is a very for Trump in the sense that the Court rejected the lower court and recognizes some immunity. That will further delay the lower court proceedings, but Trump will have to argue that his actions fall within these navigational beacons. The lower court judge has been highly favorable for Jack Smith in the past. Yet the court is arguing that there is a presumption of immunity for their official acts beyond the absolute immunity on core constitutional powers.
Note this language: Whenever the President and Vice President discuss their official responsibilities, they engage in official conduct. Presiding over the January 6 certification proceeding at which Members of Congress count the electoral votes is a constitutional and statutory duty of the Vice President. Art. II, §1, cl. 3; Amdt. 12; 3 U. S. C. §15. The indictment’s allegations that Trump attempted to pressure the Vice President to take particular acts in connection with his role at the certification proceeding thus involve official conduct, and Trump is at least presumptively immune from prosecution for such conduct.
The question then becomes whether that presumption of immunity is rebutted under the circumstances. When the Vice President presides over the January 6 certification proceeding, he does so in his capacity as President of the Senate. "
Moves and countermoves. We all saw how this could play out if SCOTUS ruled against President Trump and the vulnerabilities it would create for criminal Presidents like Biden, Obama and Bush. But there is some nuance to this ruling as well. Still reading the full opinion.
So, the complete out right fraud from all prior presidents including Biden is still on the table. Obama wasn’t even technically allowed to be president due to him not being born in the United States. The Bush crime family. I’ll throw Cheney in there too because he was more in charge than dumb dumb George. The Clinton’s... pretty sure Arkansas alone would put them in jail for the rest of eternity.
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Hom0bama may have been born in Hawaii which would make him a citizen, BUT he can NOT be a NATURAL BORN citizen since BOTH of his CIA lab-grown parents were not US citizens at the time he was born.
Piglosi purposely had the Certification of Nomination changed to exclude the text regarding meeting the Constitutional requirements.
Except he was definitively born in Kenya
Saying there's no proof of it at this point is like saying there's no proof of widespread coordinated election fraud in 2020
Ahhh, thanks for this!
Note prosecution for both civil fraud (including RICO) and criminal fraud still appear to be on the table even if we can’t get an 18 USC 2384 charge against each of them. Note statutory penalty for civil fraud is 3x compensatory and 200x punitive for actual damages. This might be a good start.
I was thinking moe along the lines of Obama paying the Iranians cash money without congressional approval.
I can’t believe I forgot about that! Plus, his meddling in the Ukraine way back when...
GW paying the Saudis for their role in 9/11.
The way I see it, as commander in chief of the USA with a sworn duty to defend our constitution, and all enemies foreign and domestic, president Trump could have (imo should have) given his subordinate Mike Pence a direct order to uphold the constitution, and not certify the election.
The notion that anything Trump did or said to encourage Mike Pence to obey the constitution as being somehow illegal, is an absurdity promoted by leftist's, and political enemies of Trump.
You're correct.
However, to think that the Constitution will have bearing on this is an iffy proposition.
Trump also had a DUTY to take official actions against foreign agents and organized crime, so his devolution and COG actions are safe, even if made public. And they likely cannot be undone, except by Trump. Devolution is an OFFICIAL act.
Good info thanks
Thanks for the sauce and info. Wish I could pin this comment.