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what ways to help or get rid of diabetes
posted 302 days ago by TrumpTrainCommando 302 days ago by TrumpTrainCommando +24 / -0

Anyone have any resources on helping with or curing diabetes.

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– BigIglooBoomer 8 points 302 days ago +8 / -0

Type 2 is easily cured with a ketogenic diet.

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– penisse 5 points 302 days ago +5 / -0

Keto or paleo. You could also go carnivore but then eat a bunch of raw salad with your meat as it lacks the fibers that help for a proper digestion.

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– BasedNoticer 8 points 302 days ago +8 / -0

Yep exactly. Meal timing as well I.e. intermittent fasting

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– ThePowerOfPrayer 4 points 302 days ago +4 / -0

I've been carnivore for several months now.

Digestion will not be an issue on a meat only diet. No salads required.

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– ZerroDefex 3 points 302 days ago +3 / -0

That added salad would make it keto, not carnivore.

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– penisse 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

A 100% carnivore diet is not viable in the mid term.

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– ZerroDefex 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

If you mean pure protein yes that will kill you (look up rabbit starvation.) You might get by without carbs for a good while but all protein and no fat would be deadly, at least 0.3g/day of fat per pound of body weight is considered to be the healthy bare minimum to keep your hormones from crashing.

I have heard of one morbidly obese guy who went on a multi-month fast but it was under constant doctor monitoring and needed a lot of multivitamins every day.

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– DBEMarine 2 points 302 days ago +3 / -1

You don't need fiber. I ate carnivore for a year and was fine. My bowel movements were the best I'd ever had.

Need to get back on it.

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– ZerroDefex 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

You don't need fiber.

Everyone is different with different gut microbiomes. Without fiber I had diarrhea multiple times a day for years and started to think I had IBS, getting 30g/day was the one thing that fixed that issue overnight. Also my gains improved greatly, my gut transit is way too fast and needs to be slowed down to really absorb nutrients properly otherwise it just rockets through without full digestion.

This diet zealotry is one of the biggest problems with nutrition right now. No one diet rules them all.

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– DBEMarine 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

So you were only eating meat and dairy and still had the issues? How long were you only eating meat and dairy while still having the IBS like issues?

Seriously asking.

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– TrumpTrainCommando [S] 3 points 302 days ago +3 / -0

what about type 1?

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– Mr_A 7 points 302 days ago +7 / -0

First, I'd be specific about type 1 in the post, because type 2 is far more common. So common that almost everyone thinks of diabetes as type 2 nowadays.

I've heard that newly diagnosed type 1's have a few options to prevent it from fully manifesting, but not sure what those options are. I found two studies that show mebendazole cured it for newly diagnosed type 1s. Fenbendazole is a drug with similar action. I have had T1D for many years, and based on that study did a 3 month course of mebendazole which unfortunately didn't work. Also did a bunch of antiparasitic treatments just to see. So far no luck.

That said, check out faustmanlab.org, especially the papers published around March - June 2020. Dr Faustman had effectively proven that it's caused by certain TB vaccines. And she has a cure that has proved extremely promising... but it's stonewalled in a long approval process, not approved yet. It's one injection, and then it takes 3.5 years. Anyway, look it up.

While on a long waitlist to participate in one of her phase 3 studies, I've gone on a full carnivore diet. Cuts down total insulin use by a lot, and there's some tantalizing anecdotes out there. Jordan Peterson in one interview said he knew someone cured of longstanding T1D by the carnivore diet. I don't have the link, but it's a Joe Rogan interview from about 5 years ago.

Also check out Dr Valter Longo. He promotes a "fasting mimicking diet" but when you look at the studies that back up his work, there are some mouse studies that show complete restoration of insulin production using repeated fasting, like a 5-fay fast 3 different times over 3 months. If I figure it out and end up curing it, I'll post. If you figure it out, come back and make a post. Good luck. WWG1WGA.

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– Combatlab96 6 points 302 days ago +6 / -0

I know their is a cure for Type 1 diabetes, my previous boss had worked on a research study around 2012. All I know is that it was monoclonal infusion therapy( one infusion and two follow up visits) but after the study ICON purchased it and it disappeared. Any further inquires by my boss were ignored.

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– Mr_A 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

That's good to know, as much as it's an evil story.

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– HenryTheRed 5 points 302 days ago +5 / -0

For me it was intermittent fasting. 16 hours a day, it took a few weeks to get to 16. Only water until then. 7 pm to 11 am no food. I did no other modifications to my diet.

I lost 60 pounds easily. There were natural resistants points that would move again after a 1 to 3 month period.

Exercise is important also. You loose weight by breathing out water. Fat is just carbon and water. Pee it out or breath it out.

You can try other diets. Fold them in after some time fasting. Fasting gave me satiation back. I would eat and finally feel full and could go 4 hours or more before more food.

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– HenryTheRed 3 points 302 days ago +3 / -0

This is type 2 advice not for Type 1.

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– TrappedInBlueState 4 points 302 days ago +4 / -0

Type 1, read what other have written here

Type 2:

Excercise

Dietary changes

No processed foods or use in extreme moderation

No sugars or use in extreme moderation

NAC helps lower blood sugar

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– patriot68 3 points 302 days ago +3 / -0

I watched an interesting video by a woman who specializes in natural reversal of diabetes. She pointed out how blood sugar spikes can be avoided through starting every meal with vegetables, followed by protein and finally carbs. The stomach will digest in that order. This stretches the carbs over a longer period, thus reducing or preventing blood sugar spikes.

No bread at the beginning of a meal! They offer it so you'll eat bread on an empty stomach, creating a sugar spike during the meal, and at the end you'll be craving more carbs. Dessert, anyone? Very profitable.

Most of her test subjects had dramatic improvement.

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– ZerroDefex 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

Its the soluble fiber that slows the absorption and blunts the spikes, this is why the sugar from fruits doesn't spike you the same way added sugar in juices and baked goods does. Also vegetables have carbs, they're more complex and slower to break down but anyone telling you that vegetables don't have carbs is unclear on what carbs actually are. All sugars are carbs, not all carbs are sugars.

The stomach will digest in that order.

That's not entirely true for example your stomach can send on liquids you drank after eating solid food while that solid food is still digesting and even if you space stuff out enough for that to be true they will not all move through your intestine in the same order. Your intestine is not just a plain pipe like people simplify it too, it's a living organ with multi-phase flow going through it (solids, liquids, and even gases) that can actually move those phases past one another and at different speeds. What comes out the other end is not in the exact same order that it went in.

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– Mr_A 2 points 301 days ago +2 / -0

Check out this one also. https://carnivore.diet/vlad-manages-type-1-diabetes-carnivore-diet/

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– CommiesGetTheRope 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

A known side effect of Ivermectin is reduced Insulin resistance. May not be a cure but I know a few people who have been able to reduce Insulin injection quantities as a result. My wife is Type 1 and has benefitted from Ivermectin.

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– ArtemisY 2 points 258 days ago +2 / -0

This is actually massive. Post worthy. If I can find a white paper on it I'll send it to you and you can make a solid post on it.

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– ArtemisY 2 points 258 days ago +2 / -0

"In fact, ivermectin is generally well tolerated at relatively high doses and more frequent dosing regimens in human (Guzzo et al., 2002) and has displayed a potential in treating non-alcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD) and insulin resistance (Jin et al., 2015). "

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0278691519303655#:~:text=In%20fact%2C%20ivermectin%20is%20generally,et%20al.%2C%202015).

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– deleted 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0
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– Mr_A 8 points 302 days ago +8 / -0

The demographics for type 1 don't match an inherited disease. It's strongly correlated to certain TB vaccines. Also, there are many cases of type 1 occurring in clusters, i.e. many cases in one preschool over a short period of time for example. The CDC doesn't track T1D in a way that those incidences can be easily tracked. There are also many reports of diabetic people's pets getting T1D. Doctors won't admit transmission, but not sure how else to explain it, because it happens. I know enough to be certain that the inherited gene theory is wrong, even though I can't say definitively what the cause is, or multiple causes are.

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– deleted 5 points 302 days ago +5 / -0
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– Mountaingale 2 points 300 days ago +2 / -0

I am hoping that once our deep state medical industry is replaced, many questions will be answered.

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– Mr_A 2 points 300 days ago +2 / -0

Amen to that!

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– BasedNoticer 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

Interesting. Wonder if it’s related to parasites and transmission

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– 5Solasreformation 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

Seems to be autoimmune caused by jabs for sure.

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– dumb_okie 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

Type 2 Been reading Berberine (used historically before modern medicine) it is called natures metformin and much better for you to lower A1c . Take along with grass fed beef pancreas supplement (restores and adds healthy insulin receptors) along with moderate exercise and weight loss if overweight to help restore insulin tolerance. There are also studies working with apple peel which contain a natural quecertain that look promising to correct insulin resistance. Cinnamon and Apple Cider Vinegar are proven to stabilize and help prevent large blood sugar spikes.

Working on my dosage of all now will post results after a couple of months. Have good base line data from a cgm to compare data with.

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– TaQo 2 points 301 days ago +2 / -0

Some beetus is a parasitic infection in the pancreas. I've heard of some knocking it out with fenben/ivermectin - but diet should be first and foremost regardless.

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– ZerroDefex 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

The Mark Bell Power Project podcast has a lot of material on this and has had a lot of good guests on in the past few months, take a look through the archive for the past year. Mark Bell himself is a retired powerlifter who used to weigh 330lbs and has tried a lot of different diets himself over the years.

A recurring discussion is how no diet is one-size-fits-all and there is no one diet to rule them all either (anyone claiming their way is the only way usually has a book to sell you, fancy that.) Some people do well on IFM, others feel like shit on it and have better success tracking calories or doing keto. Some people can't do carnivore because they're too prone to gout and other inflammations, maybe they can do it in the future after they've resolved that issue some never will get rid of that reaction.

Also in a recent interview was talk about how you can't stick to the same diet plan forever either, your body eventually adapts in ways that will cause you to stall out requiring changes to work with your new metabolism and get things rolling again.

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– ZerroDefex 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

If you're already on insulin you might not get rid of it completely but getting down to a healthy bodyfat percentage (15-20% for men, 20-25% for women) and exercise will greatly reduce the amount of insulin needed as your sensitivity will be increased. Some will get off of insulin entirely if their pancreas isn't already dead.

Here's a good interview with Ted Naiman about it: https://youtu.be/jfzmlXIPccs?si=32DB_MHHP6YzAamu

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– Oblakhan 1 point 302 days ago +1 / -0

The numbers I have seen say that at least 80% of Americans are iodine deficient. Iodine helps regulate blood sugar.

I was having a lot of trouble keeping my blood sugar below 160 even, and started taking three drops of nascent iodine in the morning and another dose in the evening. My blood sugar dropped about 30 points. I'm still not in the correct range, but much better than without the iodine. I now run between the 120's and 140's in the morning, which is still to high.

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– ZerroDefex 2 points 302 days ago +2 / -0

I don't know when they stopped adding iodine to salt, I remember it on all salt containers as a kid but noticed recently that none of the salt in my cabinet and hardly any at the grocery store is iodized. I added kelp powder to my daily shake as a major and cheap iodine source. A multi-mineral pill is not a bad idea either as you're probably lacking other trace elements.

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