I have a friend who has mostly been very pro-Trump for years, but sometimes falters in his support because he sees Trump as too pro-LGBT (he was considering switching support to DeSantis earlier this year for that reason). In a nutshell, he is a devout Evangelical Christian (Church of Christ) and has obsessive-compulsive disorder, the combination of which leads him to be laser-focused on homosexuality as the #1 thing he is against. He's within a hair's breadth of being a one-issue voter on the subject, and he sees anyone giving even the slightest condonement of homosexuality as a grave issue and the mark of one who has forsaken Godliness and Biblical truth in search of the World's favor.
He is now upset that the Republican Party has allegedly updated its platform to be pro-gay, supposedly due to Trump's influence.
He sent me emails in which he said the GOP is being taken over by the LGBT movement and is becoming evil. One of the emails contained this link:
https://x.com/realJennaEllis/status/1812944006592299084
In case you don't want to click the link, it's a tweet by Jenna Ellis reading as follows:
President of Log Cabin Republicans thanks Donald Trump for stripping the GOP platform of all “anti-LGBT” language.
Says “inclusion won!”
Your new GOP: woke godless populism."
Another of his emails had these two links:
https://x.com/Mark_McEathron/status/1813063651106193822
The tweet above features the infamous Hillary Clinton balloon reaction GIF and reads:
"Pro-Abortion Speakers Pro-LGBTQ Speakers Union Boss Speakers Slut Life Speakers
Is the GOP the 1990's Democrat Party now?"
https://x.com/ShannonJoyRadio/status/1813038321083597286
And the final tweet above features the Shannon Joy quote:
"Trump is a true champion for the LGBTQ movement!"
...and Joy's quote-tweet of a Charles T. Moran tweet reading:
"It’s official! The national GOP platform has been stripped of all anti-LGBT language! Inclusion won! Thank you @realDonaldTrump!"
He also sent me yet another email, containing this tweet:
https://x.com/LovemyFLGov/status/1813060685447745686
Which reads:
The Republican Party is moving left. I’m not going with them. I’m also not drooling and slobbering over Trump and his VP pick. I praise God that Trump did not get killed but I haven’t joined the cult.
He also sent an email titled "Demon GOP", which including a link to this tweet:
https://x.com/LaurenWitzkeDE/status/1813111478536270022
...which reads:
I turned the Harmeet Dhilon witchcraft off.
Worship of any other than Christ is as good as worshipping a demon.
Shame on the GOP.
He also asked me this:
"Donald Trump condones homosexuality, doesn't he?"
Firstly, how accurate is the "GOP is turning gay" narrative? I'm suspicious as to how accurate it is.
Secondly, how much influence did Trump truly have on this if it's true? Once again, I'm not automatically assuming a narrative is true just because the media is pushing it.
And thirdly and most importantly, what would be the best way to defend Trump to my friend in this situation? Keep in mind that he does not take kindly to "live and let live"-type arguments regarding homosexuality and especially gay marriage, viewing them as weakness leading straight down a combination slippery slope/road to hell. If by any chance you're familiar with the YouTuber/Twitter personality Melonie Mac, he's similar to her in views.
God always used flawed men to carry out His will.
He didn't use abominations tho. God will never cause a nation to bow to abominations.
Only advice for that friend is to let him know the "progress" libtard commies Ds (FJB, Ohomo, etc) are far worse. Its like the GOP showing us the rainbow, whereas the Ds are trying to get us to choke on it. From his perspective, I get it, neither is good, but the lesser of two evils?
Tell him to pull his head out of his ass,and quit watching Fox news.
Trump is carefully picking his battles,as a man of great wisdom would do. We should do the same.
^^ Simply and accurately stated
Trump is showing love for all Americans. He is NOT condoning their actions or their lifestyle.
Jesus' took his ministry to the sinners not the saints. By showing them love he was able to share the word and the love of God and to repent.
LGBCDEF+++...can still repent and be saved! But they will not even listen if the message is hateful and divisive.
I believe the religious zealots are just as bad as Libtards, sorry.
Why does he prefer the old controlled opposition Republican Party that talked tough while continually surrendering ground on these issues?
Just tell him the truth: 90% or more of our congressmen & senators are uniparty and thus pro globohomo agenda.
Trump is anti uniparty and thus anti globohomo agenda. Simple answer for simple question.
Removing anti-LGBT language is NOT becoming pro-gay. It's saying we're all equal. No labels. In my view, labeling divides us. Call good vs. evil, because God does. Any other label is a man-made division. Including LGBT.
Parable of the drowning man?
"While out to sea, a large boat became shipwrecked and there was only a single survivor. This man prayed and asked God to save his life. Soon thereafter, another boat came by and offered the man some help.
“No thanks,” he said. “I'm waiting for God to save me.”
The men on the boat shrugged their shoulders and continued. As the man became more deeply concerned, another boat came by. Again, the people aboard offered this man some help, and again he politely decline. “I'm waiting for God to save me,” he said again.
After some time, the man began to lose his faith, and soon after that he died. Upon reaching Heaven, he had a chance to speak with God briefly.
“Why did you let me die? Why didn't you answer my prayers?”
“Dummy, I sent you two boats!”
Be careful you will not deny God's help merely because it may come in forms you do not expect? And your main objective right now should be saving your country from one clear threat, not purify it of every wrong?
I could be a manouvre to isolate the pedophiles that belive that our children are capable of choosing their gender? They have infiltrated the LBGT movement to the point they control it and are using this control to attack normal christian prayer using lawfare,
Tell him to pray on it, specifically why God placed Trump in this position. God allows evil in many forms. Many heroes of the bible performed heroic deeds totally unrelated to homosexuality, even though homosexuals existed at the time. Trump may simply be one of those, leaving Gomorrah's cleanup to God.
Trump supporting rainbow faggots?
I think the rainbow people support Trump, which is very different.
I See what you did there
I don't know what you're implying, but my post is genuine. It's not a cover or pretense for anything else.
there’s a lot of effort that went into trying to paint Trump as being a bad guy.
All of the defense is placed on us as Trump supporters to prove what everybody else is saying is not true.
Why don’t you turn it around on them? Ask them to provide proof instead.
all of the things that they have listed, ask them to prove it.
I don't view Trump as a bad guy. Quite the opposite. I not only think he's one of the greatest heroes of our times, but also that he's literally under divine protection. I don't think he's perfect (no mere human is), but I do think he's the leader America needs right now.
I'm just frustrated that my friend can't see the forest for the trees whenever any news depicting trump as pro-LBGT or soft on such issues surfaces, and was hoping that maybe some people here might know some good ways to convince him that Trump is still worth supporting.
Supporting faggots is not in the Bible and no one should do so especially the president sick and sad to pander to such a small minority
He’s got a good point. I would not try to sway a man from his convictions.
Your friend is not wrong.
It's long past time to ditch the republican party and start a true American nationalist movement, based on American values. Something like the Whig party but not so naive.
The fact that a certain group of people fear for their lives should Americans ever control their government again gives you all the information you need.
I don't particularly care what he thinks of the Republican Party (I myself ascribe to George Washington's belief that there should be no political parties), but I do believe that Trump is currently a tremendous force for good and I'm trying to find a way to defend him to him.
There is no defense for that. It was Christians praying that covered Trump and he comes back with homo nonsense. Trump knows he didn't need that move. He won the election J13. But as usual he found a way to muddle that. Then he finds a dude with a buddhist wife to be next in line for a Christian nation. He hugged a gay flag last time we implored our fellow saints to step over that. He allowed his daughter to denounce Jesus and marry a Jew Last time we had grace because we were under dogs. It is not the same this time. It really doesn't matter to a believer whose president. Your friend is standing in the Truth. You are
On shaky ground because of an abomination that causes desolation. On top of that you mock him. Some friend.
You can't. You really can't.
If Trump ran on Americanism, he wouldn't be allowed on TV at all.
Instead, Trump has to further "the cause" if he wants to get any air time at all.
Trump is not going to save America. Anyone who thinks he can is retarded and ignorant of history. There is only one Person who can save America, and we have to put our trust (faith) in Him alone.
So don't defend Trump. Especially to strong Christians. Just tell them to put their faith in Christ and cast their ballot according to their best conscience.
Amen. I am not going to sell out Jesus Christ for Trump or anyone else.