As a person who’s believes in and has been taking different supplements for over 30 years, that is one I’ve not heard of. I can tell you though, I’ve found when taking any supplement, the difference it makes is subtle and it’s usually not until I STOP taking one, that I realize what it was actually helping me with. Found that out with Ginger and how it was helping with my Sinus pain.
I agree with you on this, the shift is usually subtle. The only supplement that made a dramatic change in my life is the trace mineral Lithium Orotate. It did more for my mood than any antidepressant and completely negated ANY desire to drink alcohol or use cannabis.Within 3 days I became a new person!
I take Horbaach brand. 5mg per day does it for me, however one can take up to 20 mg. It was life changing for me, I'll never stop taking it, in fact I'm slowly weaning myself off my psych meds!
Look into L-Theanine as well. I just use it as a sleep aid but some have found it to be able to replace their ADHD medicine and help with other mental issues as the root cause was a deficiency in L-Theanine.
Also you'll see it included in energy drinks and pre-workouts as when combined with caffeine the L-Theanine cancels out the "jitters" while not reducing the energy boost from the caffeine. It's why cup of espresso makes me take off like a dragster while a can of Reign gives me calm energy for hours despite having the same amounts of caffeine.
Do you mind sharing your preferred source for L-Theanine? Bulk powder? How are you taking it? (With/without food, just before bed, in coffee?) My beloved had a brain tumor removed and has had sleep problems and jitters since. Lions mane has helped with stutters and vocabulary but these other issues persist. Thanks in advance.
Source doesn't really matter, I use Nutricost as I can get a years supply for cheap. 200mg an hour before you want to go to bed, with or without food. The change is that when I lay down I'll start falling asleep within minutes rather than laying there awake for hours. However if you don't go to bed within that 60-90 minute window you'll miss it and end up laying there awake.
I usually take it with magnesium glycinate, since calcium and magnesium work together that's probably where the glass of milk before bed old wive tale comes from. So to get all three pop the L-theanine and magnesium and drink it down with a glass of milk and you should be getting sleepy in like half an hour.
I've also taken supplements for over thirty years, and the only one that made an almost immediate difference was B1 (Thiamin). I had extreme pain from the Sciatic nerve. I couldn't walk for more than five minutes without having to stop until it subsided. I tried Chiropractic, and though it didn't help with pain, it make me more limber and just generally made me feel better. B1 though worked in about three days. I'd had the pain for five years and it was amazing to have it gone. I take 100 mg daily and I'm still pain free.
Yeah many of them are subtle and also slow, like Berberine will lower blood sugar but it takes a couple weeks of daily use to even start working as it needs time to turn on the dormant genes in your body that then cause the desired effect.
Collagen takes at least 8 weeks before you can notice changes due to the slow turnover rate in the body which is why people try it for a couple weeks, bitch that their hair/skin/joints didn't get any better and quit. However after 12 weeks of consistent use my tendonitis had recovered faster in a month than it had in the entire previous year.
One of the fastest and least subtle was garlic for blood pressure. Within a week my BP was consistently down 8-10 points and stayed that way as long as I kept taking 4g a day. This one is backed by studies as well that compared it to a prescription medication and found the garlic was just as effective. The ancient Greeks reputedly used garlic as a sort of pre-workout and so did some of the bronze and silver era bodybuilders.
Creatine also as obvious effects if taken daily. Endurance during lifting sessions nearly doubled and over the first month all muscles swelled up as the extra creatine allows them to store more water and glucose which is why they can go for longer and regenerate ATP faster. Without the glycogen stored locally in the muscle it'd have to be constantly waiting on the liver to supply more. This is also why people on keto and carnivore are so scrawny, while they are getting extra creatine from food (though not as much as a supplement can give) the lack of carbs still keeps their muscles small. Additionally creatine is being found to have neuroprotective effects and clear brain fog so elderly people benefit from it even if they're not weight lifting (which they should be doing as well.)
Ha, yeah I've only been on this supplement journey for the past 5 years or so and have tried a vast variety of them. Mostly looking for a desired outcome and typically no difference found. Although in my search for a specific outcome I may have overlooked other differences or been dismissive.
Funny you mention until you stop, that is something I look at now where previously I didn't really pay attention. Although very few I took more than a month so perhaps I didn't give some enough time.
I just came across colloidals fairly recently, and tried silver very recently. Very curious to try this indium, while they're pills available I think I'll give the colloidal a try at some point with a little more searching/researching.
There are some I discontinued because I didn't think they were doing anything but then I noticed shortly after my blood pressure was quickly creeping back up and nothing else had changed in my diet or lifestyle.
This has been my experience as well. I feel normal while taking my fistful of supplements every day, which I admittedly hate doing. I can barely get through the day when I don't take them, though, so all it takes is to miss one day to start up again.
From a cursory look on the webz, it's a fairly expensive supplement. And for some odd reason, I also find pure Indium elemental items for sale...looks like a dull lead color metal.
Anyone know an inexpensive source for Indium supplements?
Mean while, a short while later, I decided to try IndiumEase and ordered a bottle this morning. Apologies, from Amazon.
Reason I decided on this one, goofy as it may be, it's patented and found the patent and holder and dude, George A.H. Bonadio, looks to be legit so hopefully the product is too.
At $30 for a 1/2 oz it's not cheap but does say it's a 60 day supply, and if I end up buying again I'll source elsewhere. Amazon delivers tomorrow, only reason I bought there. While not having many reviews, only bad ones are related to the stopper/dropper being glued to the bottle. I'll let update with results in a few days.
I really think it’s more a “general health” thing. As a kid, we were told carrots are good for your eyes. It’s not like one carrot will make a difference, but over time, a daily carrot will help provide the nutrients needed for “good eyes.”
I think supplements are excellent for any dietary deficiency and can change lives if used appropriately.
So some of the flavanols in carrots are good but the claim it was the vitamin A is bunk, the type of vitamin A in plants is not very bioactive for us. Vitamin A from animals like cod liver oil is much better of a source as it's the form that we already use.
Amen to that, we're all deficient I'm sure along with being pummeled by toxins.
I totally remember carrots being good for the eyes! And agreed, sometimes I wonder if I give things enough of a chance. Having tried a bunch of supplements over the past several years, few have made it more than a month, or however long they last.
Decades of poor farming practice has depleted our soil so the fruits and vegetables we eat are missing a lot of the magnesium and other minerals that were plentiful a century ago.
"Carrots are good for your eyes" was the psyop to keep the Germans from finding out how the Brits were able to intercept their air raids at night... using radar which was a new invention. "Our pilots eat carrots and it helps them with their night vision"
Indium is rarely found uncombined in nature and is typically found in zinc, iron, lead and copper ores.
Since Tom focuses on Zinc ores ... I wonder .... what would happen if combined with HCQ as an ionophore. ...
ionophore:
Carrier ionophores reversibly bind ions and carry them through cell membranes. (b) Channel ionophores create channels within cell membranes to facilitate the transport of ions
Just use NAC: cheaper ionophore than HCQ, you can find it in any vitamin aisle, plus it's a precursor to glutathione which is your body's best antioxidant. Save the HCQ for when you're actually sick.
Yes. NAC is very cheap, and has quite a few applications. NAC functions differently. Hence, my focused question.
Of course HCQ is one option, Quercitin is another. Combines with zinc it has tremendous effect on health for all kinds of issues. I am wondering, since there is talk about trace amounts, and indium is usually bound to zinc, what are the properties and effects if the raw stuff could be combined with a medium like an ionophore to get it straight into the cell.
Yep all zinc ionophores use the same pathway with zinc, the differences are their effects on the body other than transporting zinc. EGCG is also a very common ingredient in workout supplement powders.
As a person who’s believes in and has been taking different supplements for over 30 years, that is one I’ve not heard of. I can tell you though, I’ve found when taking any supplement, the difference it makes is subtle and it’s usually not until I STOP taking one, that I realize what it was actually helping me with. Found that out with Ginger and how it was helping with my Sinus pain.
I agree with you on this, the shift is usually subtle. The only supplement that made a dramatic change in my life is the trace mineral Lithium Orotate. It did more for my mood than any antidepressant and completely negated ANY desire to drink alcohol or use cannabis.Within 3 days I became a new person!
What dossage did you use......any particular brand?
I take Horbaach brand. 5mg per day does it for me, however one can take up to 20 mg. It was life changing for me, I'll never stop taking it, in fact I'm slowly weaning myself off my psych meds!
Look into L-Theanine as well. I just use it as a sleep aid but some have found it to be able to replace their ADHD medicine and help with other mental issues as the root cause was a deficiency in L-Theanine.
Also you'll see it included in energy drinks and pre-workouts as when combined with caffeine the L-Theanine cancels out the "jitters" while not reducing the energy boost from the caffeine. It's why cup of espresso makes me take off like a dragster while a can of Reign gives me calm energy for hours despite having the same amounts of caffeine.
Do you mind sharing your preferred source for L-Theanine? Bulk powder? How are you taking it? (With/without food, just before bed, in coffee?) My beloved had a brain tumor removed and has had sleep problems and jitters since. Lions mane has helped with stutters and vocabulary but these other issues persist. Thanks in advance.
Source doesn't really matter, I use Nutricost as I can get a years supply for cheap. 200mg an hour before you want to go to bed, with or without food. The change is that when I lay down I'll start falling asleep within minutes rather than laying there awake for hours. However if you don't go to bed within that 60-90 minute window you'll miss it and end up laying there awake.
I usually take it with magnesium glycinate, since calcium and magnesium work together that's probably where the glass of milk before bed old wive tale comes from. So to get all three pop the L-theanine and magnesium and drink it down with a glass of milk and you should be getting sleepy in like half an hour.
Thank you!
I've given L- theanine a try but it did not work for me like the Lithium Orotate. Perhaps I'll give it another try, it can't hurt. Thanks!
If your problem was solved with lithium then it probably wasn't an L-theanine issue.
I've also taken supplements for over thirty years, and the only one that made an almost immediate difference was B1 (Thiamin). I had extreme pain from the Sciatic nerve. I couldn't walk for more than five minutes without having to stop until it subsided. I tried Chiropractic, and though it didn't help with pain, it make me more limber and just generally made me feel better. B1 though worked in about three days. I'd had the pain for five years and it was amazing to have it gone. I take 100 mg daily and I'm still pain free.
Yeah many of them are subtle and also slow, like Berberine will lower blood sugar but it takes a couple weeks of daily use to even start working as it needs time to turn on the dormant genes in your body that then cause the desired effect.
Collagen takes at least 8 weeks before you can notice changes due to the slow turnover rate in the body which is why people try it for a couple weeks, bitch that their hair/skin/joints didn't get any better and quit. However after 12 weeks of consistent use my tendonitis had recovered faster in a month than it had in the entire previous year.
One of the fastest and least subtle was garlic for blood pressure. Within a week my BP was consistently down 8-10 points and stayed that way as long as I kept taking 4g a day. This one is backed by studies as well that compared it to a prescription medication and found the garlic was just as effective. The ancient Greeks reputedly used garlic as a sort of pre-workout and so did some of the bronze and silver era bodybuilders.
Creatine also as obvious effects if taken daily. Endurance during lifting sessions nearly doubled and over the first month all muscles swelled up as the extra creatine allows them to store more water and glucose which is why they can go for longer and regenerate ATP faster. Without the glycogen stored locally in the muscle it'd have to be constantly waiting on the liver to supply more. This is also why people on keto and carnivore are so scrawny, while they are getting extra creatine from food (though not as much as a supplement can give) the lack of carbs still keeps their muscles small. Additionally creatine is being found to have neuroprotective effects and clear brain fog so elderly people benefit from it even if they're not weight lifting (which they should be doing as well.)
Ha, yeah I've only been on this supplement journey for the past 5 years or so and have tried a vast variety of them. Mostly looking for a desired outcome and typically no difference found. Although in my search for a specific outcome I may have overlooked other differences or been dismissive.
Funny you mention until you stop, that is something I look at now where previously I didn't really pay attention. Although very few I took more than a month so perhaps I didn't give some enough time.
I just came across colloidals fairly recently, and tried silver very recently. Very curious to try this indium, while they're pills available I think I'll give the colloidal a try at some point with a little more searching/researching.
There are some I discontinued because I didn't think they were doing anything but then I noticed shortly after my blood pressure was quickly creeping back up and nothing else had changed in my diet or lifestyle.
This has been my experience as well. I feel normal while taking my fistful of supplements every day, which I admittedly hate doing. I can barely get through the day when I don't take them, though, so all it takes is to miss one day to start up again.
I wasn't expecting it to be anything like the video depicted, but I'd suspect the source, process, and sources make a difference in any supplements.
Not looking at it as a wonder-cure-all-supplement, but with all that's suppressed and manipulated to us, health is up there on the list.
Yeah, the changes in the video may be overselling it a little 😉
From a cursory look on the webz, it's a fairly expensive supplement. And for some odd reason, I also find pure Indium elemental items for sale...looks like a dull lead color metal.
Anyone know an inexpensive source for Indium supplements?
Yes, that's what I was turning up last night, few supplements, lots of use, side effects stuff and some raw material type results.
Probably be a while but I'll update on what I find.
Thanks, anon.
Mean while, a short while later, I decided to try IndiumEase and ordered a bottle this morning. Apologies, from Amazon. Reason I decided on this one, goofy as it may be, it's patented and found the patent and holder and dude, George A.H. Bonadio, looks to be legit so hopefully the product is too.
At $30 for a 1/2 oz it's not cheap but does say it's a 60 day supply, and if I end up buying again I'll source elsewhere. Amazon delivers tomorrow, only reason I bought there. While not having many reviews, only bad ones are related to the stopper/dropper being glued to the bottle. I'll let update with results in a few days.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0001AFLVM/
Most excellent, thanks for this. Looking forward to hearing more about this.
I really think it’s more a “general health” thing. As a kid, we were told carrots are good for your eyes. It’s not like one carrot will make a difference, but over time, a daily carrot will help provide the nutrients needed for “good eyes.”
I think supplements are excellent for any dietary deficiency and can change lives if used appropriately.
So some of the flavanols in carrots are good but the claim it was the vitamin A is bunk, the type of vitamin A in plants is not very bioactive for us. Vitamin A from animals like cod liver oil is much better of a source as it's the form that we already use.
Amen to that, we're all deficient I'm sure along with being pummeled by toxins.
I totally remember carrots being good for the eyes! And agreed, sometimes I wonder if I give things enough of a chance. Having tried a bunch of supplements over the past several years, few have made it more than a month, or however long they last.
Decades of poor farming practice has depleted our soil so the fruits and vegetables we eat are missing a lot of the magnesium and other minerals that were plentiful a century ago.
Including the use of manufactured pesticides!
Doesn't matter even if it's organic without the pesticides, the minerals are still often in too low of quantities.
"Carrots are good for your eyes" was the psyop to keep the Germans from finding out how the Brits were able to intercept their air raids at night... using radar which was a new invention. "Our pilots eat carrots and it helps them with their night vision"
Interesting:
Since Tom focuses on Zinc ores ... I wonder .... what would happen if combined with HCQ as an ionophore. ...
ionophore: Carrier ionophores reversibly bind ions and carry them through cell membranes. (b) Channel ionophores create channels within cell membranes to facilitate the transport of ions
This was the issue with HCQ+Zinc.
Just use NAC: cheaper ionophore than HCQ, you can find it in any vitamin aisle, plus it's a precursor to glutathione which is your body's best antioxidant. Save the HCQ for when you're actually sick.
Yes. NAC is very cheap, and has quite a few applications. NAC functions differently. Hence, my focused question.
Of course HCQ is one option, Quercitin is another. Combines with zinc it has tremendous effect on health for all kinds of issues. I am wondering, since there is talk about trace amounts, and indium is usually bound to zinc, what are the properties and effects if the raw stuff could be combined with a medium like an ionophore to get it straight into the cell.
Just chiming in, EGCG is another zinc ionophore that is inexpensive and contained in green and black tea.
Yep all zinc ionophores use the same pathway with zinc, the differences are their effects on the body other than transporting zinc. EGCG is also a very common ingredient in workout supplement powders.
Yes! I remember Dr. Z saying zinc was like the bullet that got the HCQ into the cell.
Interesting...