At the risk of being banned, I feel a great need to engage the Board about the topic of the Plan, and how we will know when... well, that it's "done".
I don't know how else to explain this fascinating dynamic, so let me first list some things that I commonly hear on this Board and that I am constantly trying to reconcile. I'll post the saying, or belief, and then a short comment in brackets [ ].
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God wins. [Yes, of course He does. I believe this. But do we know what this actually translates into in this world, for humans? It is comforting in one way, but it is the Great Ambiguity as well as the Great Euphemism in another.]
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Nothing can stop what is coming. [Similar to #1. I believe this. I think we all do. But what is the "What"? Justice and goodness? That's what we believe and we are hoping for.]
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Trust the Plan. [Similar to #1 and #2. I do trust the Plan. The reason I am making this post is because I don't KNOW the Plan. That is what "trust" is... similar to faith. I have seen enough evidence that there is a Plan, and I believe it to be real and to be good.]
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Eat more popcorn. [This phrase is frustrating because it's basically implying that there's nothing to do but... #'s 1, 2 and 3... just have faith and trust. That's all good, but this cannot go on forever. Some of you/us have been waiting for decades. Some of you found this Board yesterday. Regardless, this state of mind is not sustainable for most people. So, when will we know that we do not need more popcorn? When Trump is the President?]
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We're watching a movie. [Yes, I know. It's kind of entertaining, I guess. But if I'm being truthful, it's frustrating and irritating. Like many of you, I'm ready for it to be over. See the next point.]
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This is a war. [I understand. And, it will take time... a long time... to unravel and dismantle the global Cabal that has existed for centuries. So, my need for expediency is not important. And people will suffer and people will die, and there will be ugliness. This is a war!! Put my big boy pants on, man up, etc. I get it. No need to keep saying THIS IS A WAR. All I want to know is how will we know when it is over?]
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Things are happening. [Yes, they are. A lot of things. We have win after win after win piling up. I KNOW! Again... how will we know when it's done? What signs, what wins, what habbenings will be the signal that it's done? When and why do we get to say "I told you so" to that smug in-law who loves FJB/KH? When and why do we get to come out of the fog of ambiguity and say, "This finally feels like solid ground, and a new life can begin"? Will it even be like that? Or are we going to be in this malaise of winning and changing and winning for the next 30 years? ]
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Patriots are in control. [This goes with #7, in particular. None of what we're seeing would happen if Patriots were not in control. But what does that really mean? Because there are a lot of things that seem like they're not in control. Or is that part of the script? Well, when it's a win, Patriots are in control--but something not so good means it's part of the script.]
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We must show them. [Yes, we do. The normies need to awaken via a process by which they are showing the evil that exists. And, we need to experience the Precipice as part of this showing. I can tell you right now: the longer things play out, and the longer the dripping continues, the more desensitized and tuned-out people become. So, I have a feeling that something cataclysmic is going to happen very, very soon, otherwise we will have missed the opportunity to truly awaken people].
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Take a break. [I understand self-care. I understand checking out and letting go and grounding myself. It is during those times that what I am explaining here comes into focus. Any rational person who without any context reads the above 9 statements would say, "That sounds circular or never-ending. You're being told that there's a plan and that you're winning, and that you should watch and be patient, and that it's a war so stop getting uppity because can't you see all that is happening to show them the evil and awaken them, and take a break if you can't handle it. But you never know when you're done. You're just supposed to keep at it, and endure." ]
There are other phrases and euphemisms, but these are the ones I hear/see the most.
What's my point in all of this? First, I'm not complaining--so don't bother to tell me to stop. I am looking past the war. And I want to know if we know how we will know that it is over.
Will Q post and tell us?
Will Trump tell us?
Will we just have to discern that we've won (continue to point to "wins")?
What are the things that will be proof that the fog of war has cleared and we are the victors? Public executions? Big Pharma ends and is replaced with med beds? Aliens walk among us and show us how to live up to our potential? All human traffickers are rounded up and disposed of? All but 6% of the population walks around with a smile and screaming, "Yes, I get it! I'm awake. We are free of the Cabal!" The Cabal masters are named, rounded up and disposed of? A 48-hour documentary is shared that details everything? There is peace. There are jobs. All of the above? Other things?
The deeper point is this: It is not healthy for the human psyche to sustain the watchfulness, hope, and preparedness for so long, and then not have a catharsis.
We need a cathartic moment. We need to know it's over. We need to know that the storm is over. I sure hope and pray that the Q Team accounted for this basic human condition, as the prolonged state of mind leads to desensitization, doubts and loss of hope, and overall disappointment at the falling short of expectations.
And that's the last point: We have been led to have expectations. And boy do I have them! And I am doing my best to spread them and encourage others to have them. Everything--EVERYTHING--is riding on this Plan. From world freedom from the Cabal to my petty need to say "I told you so", and everything in-between... and most people would say not to place all my eggs in this one basket. Well, Q, you're the basket, and you've got all my eggs. I'm in it to win it, and I want to know when we've won, and I want to know how we will know that we have won.
Edit: Interestingly enough, this post was made not too long after mine. If you have not watched this 6 minute video, please do. It is a great summary of what's going on, big picture and at a detailed level. It is hopeful, and answers my questions as to how we will know: https://greatawakening.win/p/1995CLejoG/the-dam-is-breaking/c/
It's over when we can spit on graves!
Hawk Tuah?? haha... had to.
Actually, when I was a kid it was "hock tooey".
somehow i think we will know when it is done........
I think you're right. But I think Q should just tell us. : )
guess we will see when its done...i hope so
I feel you fren. I too suffer these responses and feel like the comments are only made when no one has the answer. As an analytical person with a tech background, these comments make me doom. I want both branches of the if then else to have answers.
I long ago turned to God for man can not address my questions. Personally I think we will know it is over when the justice phase of this war commences. I know I'm invested to see many kicked off their high horse. I find myself very angry of the damage done by women and although I have men on my retribution list it is dominated by women. As a woman their behavior disgusts me.
Bottom line is I think we will know its over when we stop fearing the loss of our country and that will be different for all of us.
Thanks. I especially like your last line. It's a good barometer.
It has been a lifetime since it started, It may take a lifetime to complete.
8 years of the kinetic phase of this plan is not a lifetime. Life time is that they burned down the city of london area in 1666 and slowly, patiently, made move after move to capture the whole world since then. That is multiple lifetimes. And they had the patience to do it.
We just need patience to see it all burn down in 8 years. Yeah, I know, too hard for some people, but too bad.
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Operative word “kinetic phase” not “the plan”. Most are aware of the believed first chosen to carry out the plan that was impeded by a bullet in 1963.
Actually long before JFK assassination throughout history we can see this plan in action. Just as the Satanists have been trying to destroy us throughout history, we can also see the hidden hand of what can only be called secret White Hats that always kept frustrating their plans just a little bit, just enough to ensure it never actually succeeded but instead took us closer to Great Awakening
As digital soldiers we are of course ready to spring into action and post memes, if called upon, but I belive our work was done a long time ago.
If you are like me, you can’t keep your mouth shut. I tried in different ways to inform everyone I talked to, even If it meant losing friends and countless opportunities.
The work seemed pointless as I hardly ever succeeded in convincing anyone.
I still belive I planted a seed here and there, and some people have surprised me in taking up conversations about things they find strange.
Somebody had to be dumb enough to start these conversations. I’m proud to have done my part. 😁
Lol... totally dumb enough with you.
I don't know if I've ever shared this before, but it might go someway to answering your question.
I've been at varying states of awareness about the hidden war since the 90's, but not as a main preoccupation, back then I was mostly about self development etc.
Well, in the mid 2000's I was granted a vision, that's about the best I can describe it, but it came with conditions.
I was to be allowed to view the future, but afterwards I would not be able to remember the details. Sounds pointless then, yeah? Well, no, because I was allowed to remember how it felt. Indescribable joy, heaven on earth. That's what it felt like.
Then a couple of years ago I was just stepping in to my office outside and the exact same feeling washed over me, lasted about 3 seconds. Came out of nowhere and went back the same way, no idea what prompted it, but it renewed my confidence.
So, to answer your question: How will we know? The answer is that if what I felt was true and genuine (I know it is, but I hardly expect anyone else to) then you will know, because you will feel it in no uncertain terms. It is a life changing feeling and full of every good thing you ever have, or ever will, experience throughout your life all at once.
If it doesn't end up happening like that, I shall be having words, have no doubt!
I appreciate you sharing that. Thank you. I think I know what you're talking about, as I have felt something similar on different occasions unrelated. God touches us. He lets us know. And that is very hopeful.
There is no putting the genie back into bottle as far as awakening is concerned.
This plan has already succeeded as long as you realise the objective of the plan is Awakening.
If, lets say, Trump is taken out one way or another - nothing will stop the people anymore. The only guardrail holding them back is waiting for elections.
If, lets say, Trump wins and turns out to be a cabal puppet - again, nothing will stop people. They will trample over him if it turns out he tries to stop the Plan. (Of course, I have proved multiple times that this possibility is extremely unlikely, purely from game theory point of view)
Trust is when you have to believe something that you cannot see or feel. You dont need to "Trust" the plan. You can see it and you can feel it. We are well past the Trust stage.
My own personal turning point? My dad, who took 2 shots even after I begged him not to, because all his friends pressured him to take them, recently said this to me.
Thats the stage we are in. People know what is happening. They just looking for who and why
And for the record I have explained to my dad multiple times the whole depopulation agenda, Satanism etc, but its extremely hard for him to grasp and explain to others.
Right now we are getting set for the answer "Why are they doing this?"
Yes, when it comes out that Epstein / Diddy etc were all about blackmail, and that top people who pushed the plandemic / vaccines etc were compromised by them, then the answer "Why" becomes clear.
Then the final answer is "Who". That will take the full of next year I assume, because there are so many layers and each layer need to soak into collective consciousness.
Good summary. I agree. And I'm happy for you about your Dad. I think all of us know someone who has awakened, and it's gratifying to know you've played a part.
We will all have a much better handle on the situation once "the event" happens and the truth comes cascading out like a huge dam break.
Congress will be on break in a few days and I believe hunting season opens on the same day...
Great read. Thank you. The post and comments are a lot to unpack so I apologize if this sounds like rambling. I often try to take the perspective from Trump. If there's anyone who would want this to end I would think he'd be #1. Then I fight within about how hard it is to be patient in this world of instant whatever. So, I need as much patience as Trump; also, God only works in his timeline.
Many battles have been won in Public view (and I believe behind the scenes also). The system is breaking down I feel it. It's glorious to see. But, is there a climax or precipice needed to wake the rest of the people up? Is that the end or the new beginning? Then years of rebuilding? Can it ever end? If we expect an "end" does that mean we can relax, get comfy and enjoy life again? I hope so, but we can never drop our guard again. I'm just glad to be alive to experience it and hopefully see a brighter future for my children and grandchildren..... ALL children.
Thanks for your comments. I like how you highlighted Trump and his patience. It puts things in perspective (as do the bullets). And I, too, am glad to be alive through this, because I embrace the role that God has asked me/us to play.
My yard stick of reaching finishing line will be when Canadians will be asked to constitute.
Canada has been controlled by a de facto incorporation since 1931. This inc was given jurisdiction of seas surrounding and all inland seas of landmass known as Canada but not terra firma nor the people on said landmass. We have the documented proof.
I was informed years ago that one of the end goals would be to create a true and free sovereign Canada, this came direct from Mil Intel.
I am sure we will see other major changes in banking and medical fields before that. (GESARA - Med beds)
We are watching an event line and not a time line. In grand scheme of things it has taken life times of patriots to get to this point. After all, how fast can a 58.000 year old plan be exposed and neutralized eh :)
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Great yardstick!! That was very tangible. And I agree with you about the timeline... it's an event line. I appreciate your comments.
I’m with you on this, the whole thing. Will we know when we’ve won? I hope so, I think you’re right about the necessity of a cathartic moment. Is it possible for the precipice and the cathartic moment to be the same event? Obviously I have no answers…
Someone should start a counter of how many children have been victimized since the beginning of all of this. Pizzagate was 8 years ago
At #1 God wins is not ambiguous. Read Genesis to Revelation. God as outside of time, humans are within time on earth. God has already won, being outside of time Alpha and Omega. The winning is:
A)was done at the cross wherein whosoever believes im the redemptive blood of Jesus will have everlasting life.
B) those who do not believe in their life being redeemed by the blood of Jesus will also have an eternal existence separate from all goodness which is also separate from God's presence which is then condition of hell.
C) we are in the timeline that God has revealed to use through the word, the bible, wherein eventually those that fight with/for Jesus vs. all others/forces of darkness battle at Armageddon and are *slaughtered. And in finally, God creates a new heaven and earth free of the darkness that corrupts this one. Apparently a lot of Christians don't know about the new heaven and earth...read the last 2 or 3 chapters of Revelation.
So, God has already won is not only the leash ambiguiously defined phrase here but it is literally thee most certainly defined ...if you are a believer in Christ.
That's a helpful summary. Thanks. I guess what I meant was more about the daily grind of being human. Can I pay my bills? Can I afford my groceries? Will my grandchildren have a peaceful life as I did? That kind of stuff. Thinking of this in terms of God's final victory is a certain perspective (that I realize trumps all) but it doesn't provide a lot of comfort with respect to human condition here and now.
Sure. It doesn't. But, that IS then point. I...I am unprepared to go deep into this but, let me see if I can be brief-ish.
This life is not LIFE. This life is to give out soul experiential choice. Ok, lets put that aside for a moment.
In Genesis, God created humans to have be with God, have choice, and to create (which is why Satan hates us and its envious of God). Being innocent man's first choice was to master knowledge in deflect from the serpent Ha'Satan. From that point, instead of following God we corrupted our relationship with God and we are relentlessly tied to working and too long the earth to survive instead of being in God's bosom. Now all humans, animals, plants die. And God sacrificed the first animal the first blood to cover us. From that point, yes, life on Earth will be and has been 'The Suck.' And humans are under the sway of Satan...
Ok, back to the first pin... So, life here has been about choice, choice to be in and multiply good (as defined by God) or to serve self and man (which is in the end, serving Satan.)
I don't know if you've read Genesis, Revelation, John, Hebrews, and perhaps Job. But, those highlight the way and what past and future.
Will your kids or grand's lives be better? Maybe. Kingdoms don't matter. All of humanity is going down, being further and further sip it between light and dark. That does not feel good. But, that leads to the final breaking apart of good and bad factions. Which will be turbulent. At any given point of time life is more or less sucky year to year for any given human life.
But again, the only thing that truly matters is fighting for bigger God-goodness-light or being a knowing or unknowing member of darkness.
We/Christians live for LIFE not life. This life is essentially a battle ground.
What choices you, your grannies, anyone makes is up to them. And, in revelation and basically all the bible, the harder path in life is following God's as it is in opposition to the (little r) ruler of the world at the time, Ha'Satan. So, will life be GOOD for your grannies??? How do you define GOOD? I am sure diddy thought/thinks of his life as good.
Excellent post Allergic.
Awe-schucks! ☺️ thank you!
Being warriors for Good is definitely our family culture. Is life hard sometimes? Yes. There are always struggles, and I am not suggesting that there never will be.
But humans created in the image of God are capable of creating a better world, with God's grace, and we should strive for that, not just be along for the ride and try to simply stay on the Good side with our choices. We create beautiful God-inspired things every day, ever moment. Through us God can create His beauty on earth.
I think you are both right. It’s far too easy to become an isolationist taking the mindset Allergic mentioned. We can become so uninvolved with the world, that we desire to avoid it, to merely make it to death. I’m certain that is not Allergic’s view, but the slippery slope still exists. Looking at the life quality of our families leads down another slippery slope that the Bible will quickly tell you is meaningless like vanity, vanity…
So in what belief system can we avoid these slippery slopes, or at least place safeguards around either slope?
Loser Theology is certainly a praised theology among many Christians today, I think that is the isolationist view.
A right view of scripture will plainly tell you that you must care for your family, your community, and even those unknown to yourself (Good Samaritan) while you hold in a clear conscience the eternal perspective of our lives. Our focus ought to be two fold, this is why Paul recommends singleness, as your focus can be single minded. But to those with family’s, you must have a double focus. One on the wellbeing of your family, and one on the eternal weighty matters.
Very well said. Thank you.
You're on a roll, bro.
I wanted to say something like this but had to spend much of the day outside with the chainsaw.
This idea that "Oh yeah, this isn't our real world, our real world is heaven"--man, do I want to skreel when I hear people say that.
My ancestors were among the founders of this Republic, and they were motivated by FAITH IN PROVIDENCE and a desire to MAKE THIS WORLD BETTER as thanks-giving for the Providential gifts.
Need I quote the first seven words of John 3:16?
In my soulview, we retain the context that Life is eternal, our lives are eternal, eternity is our birthright and God's legacy to us. We must demand and enact and commit to the creation of lives worthy of that. Here and now, and on and on.
Thank you for including my voice in this robust, quality thread.
Amen! Thanks, Fren.
These are good questions. In my opinion, the improvements and societal changes will take at least 50 and maybe 100 years. The awakening is starting. The arrests are just barely beginning. It will take years to root out the corrupt, put law and order back in place throughout our country, transform the health and food awareness, stop the grift of trillions, unleash the money and technology to get people working to fix the infrastructures, build a better border system, heal and contain the brain damaged and drug addled, and many more things that need to happen. The bigger picture is a a transformation of human consciousness… that part will take centuries.
Yes... the transformation of human consciousness. I agree. I hope, though, that the timeline is more immediate. I think we're capable of it. We shall see. Thanks for your post.
I certainly connect with what you're saying, though am surprised that fear of being banned is in the air here. You effortposted your thinking and concerns. They are developed and have heart.
These past 9 years of battle on what seems like every front...it's exhausting.
I know half a dozen people who committed themselves to trying to awaken others, in their personal lives and their virtual lives, and who ended up getting very sick from the exhaustion. Three of them ended up dead after being force jabbed (and one wonders with what, but let's set that aside) while medically incarcerated.
That's on top of having to live with the constant, all-front attacks of Babylon on everything decent, everywhere I look. "Libertarians" who can't embrace the jab needle closely enough, or turn in their neighbors fast enough. "Conservatives" who support anal "marriage" and the anti-white race war of "civil" "rights." "Republicans" who have no concept of the republic. "Democrats" whose candidates are appointed, not democratically elected. My property tax bill, 60% of which goes to supporting propaganda camps ("public" "schools") and those who run/staff them.
And EVERYWHERE, the cheapening and trashing of public discourse. People laughing at/posting for the world to see photos of their toddlers or preschool children flipping the bird. Tattoos on school children. Walking wounded women mourning in misattributed frenzies the chads they are hardwired to seek...but who never got born because, every generation since 1913, there has been a war to destroy the flower of every generation of white men, and drafts specifically engineered to target them and passover the homos, sickos, commies, etc.
Change, I don't think the storm can ever be over, at some level. Human sin and objective metaphysical evil appear not to have a pull date. But I do connect with your sense here:
I have come to a similar sense, and meditating on it, I've concluded that this is the "new warfare" at its most effective. A draining away of energy. A salting of the physical, moral, social, emotional, spiritual fields. The slimetanks of the Matrix (though I admit never having seen those movies; I tried the first one and it was too heavy on narrative and visual tricks to trust my brain/soul to).
And even "our side" focuses more on the slime. Every time I hear the term "rust belt," my back goes up. Those of us who survived the "rust belt," we think of our home areas as "productive powerhouses." That were systematically trashed by Republican elites in the '70s and '80s, in favor of globalization. Why can't "our side" be doing something like asking us survivors what was GOOD about where we lived? How to recreate that? What it would look like? Like I used to turn to my parents for info on how they survived the Depression?
The leftist magazine "In These Times" was founded in the 1970s with that sort of idea--the good news from the grassroots, in places being burned out by the new globalism. It got coopted later.
But where is this sort of story telling now?
This is probably too long and won't go through. I'll try it. I thank you for your effortposting.
I am glad your post went through. Thank you. I hope others read it.
I appreciate you sharing your insights, and I understand and identify with the sense of loss you explained.
I am glad we have us on this Board. I think the story telling begins with us. That, I think, has always been one of our downstream mission objectives.
Precisely, and beautifully put.
Sorry if I came across like Grandpa Simpson, half onionbelting, half yelling at cloud.
But I think of all those family nights of sitting around the supper or canasta/pinochle table, the kids listening to the adults talk about life, work, politics, neighborhood/area stuff. The sense of coherent history, tradition, and shared striving. The sharing of local intelligence. I'm early GenX and feel like I'm the last person who got to experience this ( I was a surprise baby born late in both my WW2 era parents' lives!).
People call my home town "Rust Belt," but I can dimly remember the very last years of its coherent power as a productive center, dwelt in by men and women who lived and breathed work ethic, honor, love of country, love of God. AND we had MASSIVE arguments about all of it. AND we still pulled together despite those differences.
Something very erosive happened when this sort of family- and community-centered storytelling was replaced with Media Cave NeoShamans For Hire.
Perhaps you have seen this book, Change:
https://archive.org/details/taylor-the-death-and-resurrection-show
Thanks for the link, RainForestFrog! I will check it out. And, you and I have a lot in common. I was a latter X'er, so I'm mid-50's. But my memories echo yours. You eloquently described key facets of the culture that was substantive, and good.
I think the erosion started specifically with Madonna's "Material Girl" video : )
Then the internet overwhelmed with a flood of information the masses of people whose information literacy skills had been dumbed down. All we could do was become full of information, and then... entertainment. And most don't even know it.
Anyway, goodness is on the horizon. We can feel it!
Another perspicacious observation. 10/10
I was just writing a letter to an old friend on the matter of what she calls the "siliconization" of culture. I was thinking about how even 10-15 years ago, people still took ideas seriously, debated them seriously, and there was space opened to have substantive interactions/discussions.
Now it's just a bunch of Three Stooges slap fights and clowning. It occurs to me that a main function of "social" "media" and the commercialized internet has been the ephemeralization of everything. And when I use that word it's only about 40% Bucky Fuller...and 60% a pleasant euphemism for flatulence in lieu of communicating. "HA HA HE FARTED HA HA DID YOU HEAR THE LATEST FART?"
sigh
I'll join my optimism to yours for that incipient goodness, and thank you for this substantive and nourishing thread.
As I fell asleep last night I had one more thought about one of the legs of our cultural stool that has been broken: mentoring and role modeling is no longer common.
I have a theory about it. I think the baby boomers were the first generation of "I" . They did not continue the stories and traditions, and they did not watch and learn from their parents. Nor did they as parents, then, be role models and story-tellers for their children. That was the breakdown of cultural propulgation, and henceforth the majority of the population became isolated, selfish, and ugly.
It is why we Gen Xers feel so lonely, like fish out of water. Our parents were either the last of the Greatest Generation or the Lost Generation (who were the same as the Greatest Generation in values and cultural consistency), and we learned from them and continued the values you have been describing. And one thing we did well was watch and learn from our elders, learn to engage and tell stories, and most of all pass these characteristics onto our children.
I realize my statements are generalizations, but there is a lot of truth to them. Here's an easy acid test: How many people under the age of 35 today could sit and watch "The Waltons" and be content with the stories, acting, cinematography, etc. and truly just enjoy the simple exposure to goodness as it is portrayed? Ten bucks says most who could do that are children of Gen Xers. I admit, when our culture has me down, I watch an episode ot two, and I feel grounded and ready to keep up the fight (in addition to prayer as a source of nourishment).
I guess my point is that that show was a good example of the inter-family member mentoring that is missing.
I appreciate you. Thanks for taking the time to share your many thoughts. I hope you have a wonderful weekend.
Your points are all wonderfully grounded. I agree on WW2 and Korean War era parents having similar alignments. I think you're touching on something else, that's rarely stated but very pertinent.
I was raised in a logistics and infrastructure family and community. Mostly shipbuilders/marine engineers/transport. Refineries and factories were nearby, and so neighbors and relatives were connected with that.
When family or friends sat down around the supper or card table, or visited on warm summer nights (nobody had AC) from porch to porch in our rowhome neighborhood (row houses built by Fred Trump, believe it or not), people were talking about their lives and days and experiences.
Those were grounded in REALITY. The design of this ship. A new contract. A terrible accident/sinking costing people their lives on another vessel. A canal or bridge or aids-to-navigation project. A ship launch. The latest refinery explosion (those were constant). The fact that this or that company scored this or that contract, and what it was likely to mean in terms of workloads and timing, and the family/community events that would have to make way for those. The space program. What fish were running where. Who was injured/sick, and what help they, or their family, needed that week. Who had garden surplus (in our literally 10 foot by 10 foot gardens!). Which ladies needed help with canning or freezing. Job openings. Behavioral problems with individual kids, and how to try to backstop those. News and political content--though that never drove people against one another. Disagreements, and even arguments, were frequent, but never lethal to connection.
Among the other organized events--like Little League, holiday festivals, service projects, church projects--that bound people and organized the regular rounds, our community also was bound by ship launches, locomotive rollouts, achievements of contract goals, and such. Discussion and celebration rested on the experience of multiple generations. My grandfather could talk about ship contracts/projects/accidents going back to the 19th century, since when he studied to be a marine engineer at West Point, and started his career, 19th century ships were still plying the waters well into the 20th century.
Then there was the deeper history handed down--in my dad's family, to the 1600s in that valley. They talked about it like it was yesterday. They'd take us kids around to see the places they told stories about.
This was a profoundly industrially based society...nevertheless with a very ancient village-based social organization. (A topic of its own.) It was entirely organic. Nobody was inflicting it with "programs." There were no NGOs horning in, or Gubmint programz. Nobody was writing grants or applying the latest in management matrices or performance assessment.
We had roots in that place.
The younger people of whom you speak--what roots do they have?
The standard of culture and economics became "two paychecks, and you pack up and move every x years." Most kids had lives like what used to be called "army brats." Rootless, but not cosmopolitan. I knew a guy--a leftist college professor--who lived in 9 different places, in 4 different states, between age 2 and 20. Of course he clings to the leftist cult, and the lucrative institutional certainties of Academia. It's the only continuity he knows.
The destruction of roots in a place means the destruction of rich streams of personal, family, community, and cultural memory. Personal, not mediated, story telling.
And what did the parents do for a living? Go to an office, often many miles from the house. Do office things. Come home. Watch TV. Instead of neighborhood businesses, a bunch of strip malls, then big malls, and later catalog and online shopping. And later...the commercialized internet, with all its degenerate temptations. The neighborhood a place of consumption, not production.
That destruction of community in the 1960s-1970s was paralleled by the rise of the Gogglebox Shaman in the living room. THAT, in my view, is what created the "I I I ME ME ME" mindset. Engineered, deliberate, lucrative mental isolation tanks. I recall observing with surprise the massive difference between my mindset and that of my nieces and nephews just three or four years younger.
As you so accurately say, we are at a point where even the quiet, simple storytelling modes of that more rooted, community based time have no hold on the attention of those whose brains have been wired, rewired, and mindf$cked by the portable Skinner box that people pay to lug around with them. They know nothing about their own grandparents or ancestry, and everything about that of fictional characters. They feed not on content, or the soul in it, or the soul in themselves...but an ever escalating stream of dopamine hits.
All my life I've tried to give younger people a sense of the organic rootedness of that other way of being. But there is so much mitigating against it. On top of all that, only certain people are allowed to have roots, culture, and memory. Others can be literally jailed for claiming or talking about those.
Been there, done that. Though for me it's Patrick McGoohan. :^>
There was a web site, I forget the name...that had a lot of archived TV shows from the 1950s-1970s. It got nuked. But about 6 years ago I watched through about 30 different shows to try to get a sense of just how the storytelling sense had changed. Seeing how there was this period in the mid-1970s where a hard left and degenerate turn happened--that was hard. And accounted for so much, I thought. I know what's behind that programming shift, i mean what was going on inside the TV networks...but that too is a separate topic.
I have enjoyed our exchange. You are a talented writer with a lot of passion. I hope you write a book that brings to life the heyday you've described. Begin the story-telling. Give people a "new" benchmark to strive for.
Very well said. A few years ago you would have definitely been banned. But the mods have slowly awakened to the reality of the shit show Q calls a movie, and realized it isn't really a movie. It's bioweapons, cancer, strokes, human trafficking, murder, cannibalism all running wild. The storm is here, and it's a shit storm.