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The @NCNationalGuard has been spotted in Marion NC. I am praying they can make it up Marion Mountain to get to these small towns. The reports I am getting are devastating. Walmart is closed. Has been looted. My niece has worked there for years. It has been emptied out. Ingles is under water can’t be looted. There is an area at the parkway on 226 with spotty service. My niece was able to speak to her sister. Samantha heard everyone crying in the background. Lizzie was crying. Spruce Pine is in very rough shape. My mom’s house is not livable but she said they are staying there right now. I will post pictures as soon as I can get them. No electricity or water. They do have a well and a spring on Halltown Rd. Gas for vehicles are an issue. This is going to be a long rescue and recovery process. Many roads are impassable and landslides are a major issue. Mountain people are tough and resilient. They are survivors, preppers.
My mom and her house before this storm. I need to hear her voice.
Prayers for everyone affected by the storm. And prayers for both the rescuers and those trying to restore utilities. Mountain people are tough and resilient but they can use the Lord's help to get through this.
I saw two big convoys of power company trucks arriving in Rutherfordton last night. It was devasting
As devastating as the storm has been for Rutherford County, those linemen are from the same companies that restored power to most (90 some-odd percent) of Florida within a week's time. The only reason they are here right now and not up in the mountains yet is because the mountains are still flooded and there's work to do here.
We are glad to see them. I got a Duke Energy text a litlle while ago for my section of the county. It said they hope to have power restored for most of us by Friday evening. We are blessed to have nice weather right now and grateful that flooding is not present here as it is in Hendersonville, Chimney Rock, Asheville, etc
Chimney Rock is just straight up gone. Sylva and Black Mountain might have also been destroyed. Lake Lure, too.
Duke doesn't fuck around, and neither does Carolina Power. I saw the latter come through the morning after the storm hit.
Walmart is closed. Has been looted.
What a mentality! A human crisis and someone thinks to go to Walmart during the crisis and get them a new TV. Looters should be shot on sight!
Ill bet they looted food and water before they looked at the TVs. When faced with a life threatening crises would you loot and take care of your own? I wouldnt be above this behavior and I wouldnt be looking at the electronics.
Ya got a downvote for this??? Wasn't me!
Its easy to have high moral standards when your life isnt threatened. I certainly have them. But if faced with me or my family dying, fuck their corporate profits.
Also - there’s not saying that if you did loot, that you could keep track of what you owe. Not that everybody would do that, but that’s still an option. Survival of the fittest. Natural selection. - if resources are available, yes, people should use them.
It does seem like every time there is a natural disaster the first thing to d is loot every store around!
Couldn't find anything yet on looting in Helene damaged areas, but Mexico is: Damage from looting in Mexico after Hurricane Otis could reach $22 million Basic items have disappeared from store shelves in Acapulco, leaving victims of the monster storm dependent on supplies arriving at special collection centers desabasto en acapulco A man searches for food inside an Acapulco supermarket that was looted after the hurricane, on October 27. Mónica González Islas Karina Suárez Karina Suárez Mexico - NOV 01, 2023 - 11:22UPDATEDNov 01, 2023 - 13:03 EDT “There is still anxiety in Acapulco,” says Alfonso Pérez, 55. This yoga teacher has spent the last seven days trying to help the victims of Hurricane Otis in the Mexican state of Guerrero. Drinking water comes and goes, as does electricity and internet service. The gasoline supply has been restored in dribs and drabs. “There is no place to buy things, there is no store that can sell you something, everything is closed and in the Costa Azul area everything was looted,” he says by phone. Without options to buy groceries, hurricane victims are reliant on the food supplies that arrive at collection centers.
The expansive wave of damage caused by the passage of Hurricane Otis has also left million-dollar losses in businesses, department stores and appliance stores due to subsequent looting and acts of vandalism. The National Association of Self-Service and Department Stores (Antad) has offered a preliminary estimate of the losses caused by looting and vandalism at sale points, which it placed at up to 390 million pesos (close to $22 million).
The government of Andrés Manuel López Obrador on Wednesday announced a reconstruction plan that contemplates tax exemptions, social aid, credit lines and the delivery of household appliances and food supplies for the thousands of victims in the area. The Secretary of Finance, Rogelio Ramírez de la O, said the initiative will cost 61,3 billion pesos ($3.4 billion). “We have the budget to finance all these needs, these programs, fortunately we have healthy public finances,” said the president during his regular morning news conference.
Volunteers sort donations for people affected by Hurricane Otis at the Estadio Olimpico Universitario in Mexico City, on October 26, 2023. Volunteers sort donations for people affected by Hurricane Otis at the Estadio Olimpico Universitario in Mexico City, on October 26, 2023. TOYA SARNO JORDAN (REUTERS) The Antad association has asked authorities to reinforce security and take the necessary measures to prevent further looting and acts of vandalism in Acapulco, a seaside resort popular with tourists. “We condemn the acts of plunder by the population, nothing justifies it,” Antad said in a statement. The association added that the priority now must be to guarantee that groceries as well as hygiene and health products reach their destination, while avoiding theft by criminal groups.
Manuel Cardona, director of Government Relations at Antad, told the local media that out of the 135 stores that operate on the coast of the state of Guerrero, at least 73 sale points reported structural damage from the hurricane as well as damage from looting.
Other big players like Walmart have also posted losses. In an interview for Radio Formula, the senior vice president of Corporate Affairs at Walmart Mexico and Central America stated that of the 50 stores they had in Guerrero, 23 had significant losses from both causes. According to the company, in two weeks they will be able to open at least three department stores.
People outside a department store in Acapulco, on October 27. People outside a department store in Acapulco, on October 27. Mónica González Islas The hurricane also caused damage to the small business fabric. The National Alliance of Small Business Operators reported that Otis caused large losses for the more than 16,000 small businesses that operate in Acapulco and its surrounding areas, leaving them out of stock. “Small businesses are experiencing difficult times. Otis is the most destructive hurricane in the recent history of the country, and it has exposed the state of vulnerability in which we Mexicans live by not having a deep-rooted culture of prevention,” said Cuauhtémoc Rivera, president of the organization.
Enki Research, a risk analysis firm specializing in natural disasters, has estimated the economic losses due to the recent hurricane at $15 billion. Otis produced wind speeds of 165 mph (265 km/h) that intensified with unexpected velocity, destroying bridges, power lines, businesses, homes, and banks. Acapulco, one of the jewels of the Mexican Pacific, now seems like a setting for a post-apocalyptic movie.
Mexico’s Secretary of Tourism, Miguel Torruco, said on Monday that the cost of reconstruction in Guerrero would be announced no later than next week. The official assured that 12,500 tourists received assistance to leave Acapulco, of which 98% were nationals and the rest foreigners.
Treasury promises tax aid to victims The Office of the Secretary of Finance and Public Credit (SHCP) will offer fiscal incentives to taxpayers affected by Hurricane Otis to accelerate the reconstruction and rehabilitation of Acapulco. Individuals or legal entities will be able to claim 100% deductions on the purchase of fixed asset goods intended for reconstruction, rehabilitation, or replacement in areas affected by the hurricane, if they are acquired from October to December 2023.
Individuals whose homes are located in areas damaged by Otis and who pay income tax will not have to pay any additional amount on donations or financial support they may receive from legal entities or trusts for reconstruction purposes. Taxpayers who have their tax domicile in the affected areas may break up their payments on added value tax and IEPS (a tax on products deemed harmful to one’s health, such as alcohol and junk food), and employers will also be able to break up their employee-related taxes.
Someone downvoted ya for this??? Twernt me!
Prayers fren.
I'm watching the occasional sortie of Black Hawks flying east-west headed out 40 assuming carrying supplies, but they can only carry so much. Every major highway in and out of the region is shut down and may not reopen for a while. Tons of small towns completely isolated. No drinking water in Asheville and surrounding areas. Chimney Rock no longer exists. If anyone wants to donate, I suggest Samaritan's Purse. They are based in Boone, NC and are in the epicenter of the wreckage. They are in the best position to help.
We're seeing why we need to be prepared for these events, there's more to come for sure.
Guarantee we won’t see Jack shit from FEMA.
Hey, they've got illegals to take care of, come on have a heart.😢
The libs of Asheville are now getting a taste of what the rest of the south gets treated like by this admin.
Their voterbase is peanuts compared to the combination of Charlotte and Raleigh, and everything else east of King's Mountain.
That may be more of a blessing than not.
Exactly. If the Dems lose they will target the power grid. This is a wake-up call.
This is the opening salvo.
I sit here in upstate SC without power and now instead of getting upset that we are without, I pray for the safety, security and restoration of your mom and those in the mountains of NC, TN and SC. I send my love and prayers. May GOD bless you all.
Lake lure and Chimney Rock area is gone. Its like fallout 76 here, no shit. There's a lot of refugees coming into Spartanburg and Greenville from Asheville area.
Thank God the Lake Lure dam held. We’re downstream of it. Broad River has done a ton of damage
The dam may have held only because they opened the floodgates in time.
🙏🏻
Praying for your kin.
My son is in Candler where he works as a welder. My niece lives in Asheville. Son was able to communicate with us through his GPS satellite emergency messaging device. He also has a ham radio so is able to get information. Today they both have spotty texting ability on their phones. The big problem is going to be getting water and food to all who need it.
I’ve visited that area quite a bit. Asheville runs totally on cell phone technology. You can’t even park your car without one. Heck you need a freakin’ phone to take a tour of the Biltmore (yes I saw the infamous basement swimming pool - creepy). They seem to have embraced the smart city concept. The police force is small, having been defunded a few years ago….
The town is overpopulated too - like the houses are three deep or narrow towers of apartments—and super expensive to rent. Lots of hippies who live at campsites or in old busses etc. It’s been a bit of a mecca for people fleeing California. This is going to be tough for most of them. My husband and I think a lot of them will end up leaving after this experience. The mountains are beautiful but there are a few things mountain dwellers need to be aware of….
Prayers for your Mom and all affected!
Good news Biden/Harris gave the President Volodymyr Zelensky (Ukraine) in Washington, eight more billion last Thursday. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4900517-joe-biden-ukraine-aid/
There appears to be a lot of broken people that need comforting & support. People in tears because they have only their lives.
Praying for you to hear your mom's voice. Stay strong fren.
My cousins live in Asheville NC from what my aunt & uncle told me they lost contact with them they have no water, power & the cell towers are down. My anut & uncle live there during the summer and are currently trying to return but all roads are block to all non-emergency personnel.
That's because flood waters are extremely dangerous. They're usually full of stirred-up sediment, so you can neither tell how fast the water's moving nor how deep it really is. Statistically, more flood deaths occur in the confines of a vehicle than anywhere else.
Should t the water be retreating soon? How long was new orleans under water after katrina
This is completely different.
New Orleans is in a bowl that sits below sea level, on flat land right off of the Gulf of Mexico.
Asheville and these other towns are up in mountains and tucked into valleys. The heavy rainwater pours down onto those mountains and is forced down narrow passes into the valleys. That's why there can be horrendous, powerful flooding that destroys everything in its path.
Really no similarity between the two.
Yea this is a great point. I thought you were gonna say something else entirely when i was first reading your comment
This is very astute -- When you narrow a hose with flowing water, the water does not stop or grow less in volume -- it just moves faster and with greater force.