According to the 'Hadith' (Islam's book of Revelation) Jesus is not the Messiah but comes to destroy the
Al-Masih ad-Dajjal the Islamic 'anti-messiah' then this Islamic Jesus/Issa will unite the world to the Muslim faith by whatever means necessary. Then the Mahdi will rule the world. Oh, the Dajjal has only one eye, does that bring something to mind?
I had heard a pastor say that the Christians messiah is Islam's antichrist... and vice versa... so Islam's messiah is the Christians antichrist. Is that what you are saying here?
The book of Daniel reveals the anti-christ (King of the North, Ruler of the Syrian division of Alexander's Empire) comes from the middle East in the area of the old Assyrian Empire. Isa.124calls him the Assyrian: Isaiah 14:25
I will crush the Assyrian in my land; on my mountains I will trample him down. His yoke will be taken from my people, and his burden removed from their shoulders. " The Mahdi (12th Imam) is very similar to 'Beast' Rev. 13 & Issa/false Jesus is similar to the 'False prophet. It would take hours to lay it out, but I hope this helps.
The name Issa is derived from the name of Esau, Jacob's brother & founder of Edom. Romans 9 :13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Malachi :2 “Wasn’t Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “I loved Jacob, :3 but Esau I hated.
That's only one of the possible explanations brought forth by scholars on this topic (
see e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isa_(name) ).
Also the name "Isa" is used by many Middle Eastern Christians themselves to refer to Jesus, next to "Yeshua", "Yasu", etc.
Yes as someone with spiritual ties to Arab Christians, I ask people to please anchor the claims like “Allah is not the Christian God” to the practice of actual Arabic-speaking Christians. There’s a lot of junky information out there that doesn’t even start from a knowledgeable foundation. You can look up Bible verses you know, listen to them in Arabic, see them transliterated, and save yourself embarrassment and save others from misinformation.
It's more or less the things that "Allah" instructs to do, things outside of the nature of God.
Striking the heads from the shoulders of infidels/unbelievers to spread the religion is not what we have heard from God the Father, nor God the Son.
God never forces himself on anyone, because at the end of the day, why would He compel by force, why would God compel a man, whom he created with free will to choose Him? Why would God need to considering he controls literal life, afterlife, final destination, and why would God do that when prior to Christ, the Gentiles were a wild olive branch, with only the law written on their hearts? Why would he tell a people whom he called to be loving to do that to people who are not a part of the covenant that He made with the Israelites, nor of those whom are Elect from the begging (He knows and has forechosen all who will be saved, He sees all time, already)
God takes vengeance, not man, God tells us that He will repay, that he will cause the foot to slide in due time for those who abuse others.
Islam's sword verses, in context, describe a god, unlike our God, so with respect as a person to those people whom believe on allah, God, or YHWH is consistent, upright, morally excellent, and truthful, throughout the Bible.
Now, I have heard people argue against this considering that God commanded the Israelites to slaughter the Caananites, but understand, that they were giants, who worshiped fallen angels, ancient caananite dieties, that are still worshipped, whom people still pass children through the fires of, like Moloch. Those Caananites, whom had bred with fallen angels, needed to be wiped out for the sake of man. God had a plan to keep humanity pure, even after the flood, as the fallen ones came back again.
Finally, we know that the God of the Bible is God, and not allah, because the prophecies that God makes, com true.
Ezekiel, 2500 years ago said that Israel would come back after dispersal, 1900 years ago, in 70 AD, after Jesus said they would destroy the Temple, the Romans did, and they begat the Jewish diaspora.
In 1948, Ezekiel 36 comes true.
In Isaiah 44,45, we learn 200 years before Cyrus the Great is born, that God has chosen Him, and Isaiah prophesies this. Again, fulfilled.
All of those prophets worship YHWH; (I AM THAT I AM) of whom consists Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, another reason, that allah, is not the same God.
Paul told us 500 years before Mohammed existed, that Satan masquerades as an angel of light, as does his ministers masquerade as men of the cloth.
12 Disciples, all save 1 died a gruesome, horrible death, drinking of the cup of the Savior; and none of them, who knew Jesus, denied him after he reappeared to them.
Peter who had denied him while he was alive, requested to be crucified upside down, because he felt unworthy to be executed in the same manner as Christ.
God shows mercy, God says your works are nothing before Him. The god known as allah, only has mercy when others do as he wants, and says you can do works to get to heaven and be forgiven;
Islam states that it's okay to lie to others, in order to spread Islam; the term is called "Taqiyya"
My God says that "all liars shall have their part in the lake of fire".
allah is no equal to YHWH; and it couldn't be more obvious to anyone who has looked even at even a handful of the sword verses. They are in perfectly clear context;
allah is not God. God is YHWH. God is trinitarian in nature, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. 3 Distinct Persons in One distinct God.
We are a Mind, Body and Soul. I know this is a poor way to put, it but the mystery of the Trinity is mind boggling, God gives us this information throughout the Bible, it is why John 8:58 is the claim of Jesus' divinity from His own mouth.
"Verily I say unto thee, before Abraham was, I AM." (YWHW) and the Jews picked up rocks to stone Him.
My friend, I fully agree that Islam is a false religion. I would sooner die than confess its false teachings. I’m an Orthodox Christian who confesses one God in the three Persons of the Holy Trinity and confesses Jesus Christ as fully God and fully man.
My point is that my brothers in Christ who worship in Arabic use the word Allah to refer to God, because that is the word for God in Arabic!
We know that the God of the Bible is Allah when we’re speaking in Arabic, because that’s how you say God in Arabic! The god confessed by Muslims is false, but just as in English, the presence of false religions that refer to “God” doesn’t mean that right-believing Christians are forbidden to use the word “God” to refer to the true God!
Orthodox Christians around the world sing the Trisagion Hymn before the reading of the Epistle and Gospel during the Divine Liturgy (the Sunday morning worship service). It is Trinitarian. I myself have been the chanter singing this in these three languages, as is done in Arabic speaking Orthodox churches in the US. We’re saying the EXACT same thing in all three.
Arabic:
قدوسٌ الله ،
قدوسٌ القوي ،
قدوسٌ الذي لا يموت إرحمنا
Quduson Allah,
Quduson il-qawi,
Quduson alladi,
La ya mut irhamna.
English:
Holy God,
Holy Mighty,
Holy Immortal,
have mercy on us.
You’re welcome, and I forgive you! It’s not easy being an Arab Christian in America (I am not one but was in a bilingual parish for a few years). American-born Christians often don’t realize that such a thing exists, which causes a lot of confusion with things like this and the issue of Palestine.
Jesus is the Son of God who is and was and is to come again.
They are 500 years too late to be any kind of historical authority about Lord Jesus' life, the Apostles told us everything we need to know about them, as eyewitnesses, who died horrific deaths as a result, absolutely refusing, even under torture, and painful death, to deny Him.
Further, we know that Paul told us roughly 500 years before as well, whose ministers disguise themselves as ministers of light, because not wonder, Satan masquerades as an angel of light.
There are friends and enemies of humankind in all three Abrahamic religions. Yes there are important doctrinal differences (!). But that’s a very different issue than whether people have love for their fellow man.
In the comments of this Telegram post you can see a video of RC monastics who interacted with Hezbollah and were very favorably impressed, had no problems with them. I’m aware of other faith communities that feel similarly. https://t.me/c/1701699479/425283
If Christians would set on a journey to follow the lost years of Jesus Christ, they would know that Saint Issa is the name other religions give to him. I think its okay that other religions speak of the Christians savior by other names. I believe that no one religion has all the truth but the truth can be found in learning about all religions and ancient texts. I believe the ancient texts before the christian bible any day especially after learning that King James 1 also wrote the book of demonology. Don't tell me that he also wrote a book out of the goodness of his heart about christianity... without the intent to enslave his people.
I agree 100% with you about studying other sacred texts to gain more insight. On this website you can find almost all sacred texts: https://sacred-texts.com/
However, i think that demonology (the study of demons) was not per se studied by evil people, but primarily by the heroes and saints who fought against demons, i.e. against psychopaths and their ilk, in order to know their enemy.
Today this ancient study of demonology would be called "psychopathology" (study of the sick minds) and "ponerology" (study of evil).
According to the 'Hadith' (Islam's book of Revelation) Jesus is not the Messiah but comes to destroy the Al-Masih ad-Dajjal the Islamic 'anti-messiah' then this Islamic Jesus/Issa will unite the world to the Muslim faith by whatever means necessary. Then the Mahdi will rule the world. Oh, the Dajjal has only one eye, does that bring something to mind?
Symbolism.... They just can't fuckin help it. Kek.
I had heard a pastor say that the Christians messiah is Islam's antichrist... and vice versa... so Islam's messiah is the Christians antichrist. Is that what you are saying here?
The book of Daniel reveals the anti-christ (King of the North, Ruler of the Syrian division of Alexander's Empire) comes from the middle East in the area of the old Assyrian Empire. Isa.124calls him the Assyrian: Isaiah 14:25 I will crush the Assyrian in my land; on my mountains I will trample him down. His yoke will be taken from my people, and his burden removed from their shoulders. " The Mahdi (12th Imam) is very similar to 'Beast' Rev. 13 & Issa/false Jesus is similar to the 'False prophet. It would take hours to lay it out, but I hope this helps.
Issa is NOT Jesus.
The name Issa is derived from the name of Esau, Jacob's brother & founder of Edom. Romans 9 :13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Malachi :2 “Wasn’t Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “I loved Jacob, :3 but Esau I hated.
That's only one of the possible explanations brought forth by scholars on this topic ( see e.g.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isa_(name) ). Also the name "Isa" is used by many Middle Eastern Christians themselves to refer to Jesus, next to "Yeshua", "Yasu", etc.
Yes as someone with spiritual ties to Arab Christians, I ask people to please anchor the claims like “Allah is not the Christian God” to the practice of actual Arabic-speaking Christians. There’s a lot of junky information out there that doesn’t even start from a knowledgeable foundation. You can look up Bible verses you know, listen to them in Arabic, see them transliterated, and save yourself embarrassment and save others from misinformation.
It's more or less the things that "Allah" instructs to do, things outside of the nature of God.
Striking the heads from the shoulders of infidels/unbelievers to spread the religion is not what we have heard from God the Father, nor God the Son.
God never forces himself on anyone, because at the end of the day, why would He compel by force, why would God compel a man, whom he created with free will to choose Him? Why would God need to considering he controls literal life, afterlife, final destination, and why would God do that when prior to Christ, the Gentiles were a wild olive branch, with only the law written on their hearts? Why would he tell a people whom he called to be loving to do that to people who are not a part of the covenant that He made with the Israelites, nor of those whom are Elect from the begging (He knows and has forechosen all who will be saved, He sees all time, already)
God takes vengeance, not man, God tells us that He will repay, that he will cause the foot to slide in due time for those who abuse others.
Islam's sword verses, in context, describe a god, unlike our God, so with respect as a person to those people whom believe on allah, God, or YHWH is consistent, upright, morally excellent, and truthful, throughout the Bible.
Now, I have heard people argue against this considering that God commanded the Israelites to slaughter the Caananites, but understand, that they were giants, who worshiped fallen angels, ancient caananite dieties, that are still worshipped, whom people still pass children through the fires of, like Moloch. Those Caananites, whom had bred with fallen angels, needed to be wiped out for the sake of man. God had a plan to keep humanity pure, even after the flood, as the fallen ones came back again.
Finally, we know that the God of the Bible is God, and not allah, because the prophecies that God makes, com true.
Ezekiel, 2500 years ago said that Israel would come back after dispersal, 1900 years ago, in 70 AD, after Jesus said they would destroy the Temple, the Romans did, and they begat the Jewish diaspora.
In 1948, Ezekiel 36 comes true.
In Isaiah 44,45, we learn 200 years before Cyrus the Great is born, that God has chosen Him, and Isaiah prophesies this. Again, fulfilled.
All of those prophets worship YHWH; (I AM THAT I AM) of whom consists Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, another reason, that allah, is not the same God.
Paul told us 500 years before Mohammed existed, that Satan masquerades as an angel of light, as does his ministers masquerade as men of the cloth.
12 Disciples, all save 1 died a gruesome, horrible death, drinking of the cup of the Savior; and none of them, who knew Jesus, denied him after he reappeared to them.
Peter who had denied him while he was alive, requested to be crucified upside down, because he felt unworthy to be executed in the same manner as Christ.
God shows mercy, God says your works are nothing before Him. The god known as allah, only has mercy when others do as he wants, and says you can do works to get to heaven and be forgiven;
Islam states that it's okay to lie to others, in order to spread Islam; the term is called "Taqiyya"
My God says that "all liars shall have their part in the lake of fire".
allah is no equal to YHWH; and it couldn't be more obvious to anyone who has looked even at even a handful of the sword verses. They are in perfectly clear context;
https://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/swordverse.htm
With respect to all, God is not allah. It's clearly Satan; they may know him as "Shaitan" or the original name "Helel", an angel of light appears to Mohammed....well who do we know (Paul) who said in an epistle, 500 years before Mohammed, https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2011%3A14&version=NKJV
allah is not God. God is YHWH. God is trinitarian in nature, Father, Son, Holy Spirit. 3 Distinct Persons in One distinct God.
We are a Mind, Body and Soul. I know this is a poor way to put, it but the mystery of the Trinity is mind boggling, God gives us this information throughout the Bible, it is why John 8:58 is the claim of Jesus' divinity from His own mouth.
"Verily I say unto thee, before Abraham was, I AM." (YWHW) and the Jews picked up rocks to stone Him.
My friend, I fully agree that Islam is a false religion. I would sooner die than confess its false teachings. I’m an Orthodox Christian who confesses one God in the three Persons of the Holy Trinity and confesses Jesus Christ as fully God and fully man.
My point is that my brothers in Christ who worship in Arabic use the word Allah to refer to God, because that is the word for God in Arabic!
We know that the God of the Bible is Allah when we’re speaking in Arabic, because that’s how you say God in Arabic! The god confessed by Muslims is false, but just as in English, the presence of false religions that refer to “God” doesn’t mean that right-believing Christians are forbidden to use the word “God” to refer to the true God!
Orthodox Christians around the world sing the Trisagion Hymn before the reading of the Epistle and Gospel during the Divine Liturgy (the Sunday morning worship service). It is Trinitarian. I myself have been the chanter singing this in these three languages, as is done in Arabic speaking Orthodox churches in the US. We’re saying the EXACT same thing in all three.
Arabic: قدوسٌ الله ، قدوسٌ القوي ، قدوسٌ الذي لا يموت إرحمنا Quduson Allah, Quduson il-qawi, Quduson alladi, La ya mut irhamna.
English: Holy God, Holy Mighty, Holy Immortal, have mercy on us.
Greek: Ἅγιος ὁ Θεός, Ἅγιος ἰσχυρός, Ἅγιος ἀθάνατος, ἐλέησον ἡμᾶς Agios O Theos, Agios Iskhiros, Agios Athanatos, eleison imas.
Forgive me, I misread you. Thank you for educating me. I appreciate you.
I see, in the form of a noun that refers to the person of the One true God, not as the name of a false idol.
You’re welcome, and I forgive you! It’s not easy being an Arab Christian in America (I am not one but was in a bilingual parish for a few years). American-born Christians often don’t realize that such a thing exists, which causes a lot of confusion with things like this and the issue of Palestine.
The Muslim Jesus is not the Christian Jesus
X: https://x.com/ShadowofEzra/status/1840387706456531322
Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/ShadowofEzra/status/1840387706456531322
Jesus is the Son of God who is and was and is to come again.
They are 500 years too late to be any kind of historical authority about Lord Jesus' life, the Apostles told us everything we need to know about them, as eyewitnesses, who died horrific deaths as a result, absolutely refusing, even under torture, and painful death, to deny Him.
Further, we know that Paul told us roughly 500 years before as well, whose ministers disguise themselves as ministers of light, because not wonder, Satan masquerades as an angel of light.
So we already know who appeared to Mohammed.
Islam calls Jesus the "son of Mary"...
Palestine allied with Hitler and the Nazis...
Vatican ratlines post WW2...
CIA...
There are friends and enemies of humankind in all three Abrahamic religions. Yes there are important doctrinal differences (!). But that’s a very different issue than whether people have love for their fellow man.
In the comments of this Telegram post you can see a video of RC monastics who interacted with Hezbollah and were very favorably impressed, had no problems with them. I’m aware of other faith communities that feel similarly. https://t.me/c/1701699479/425283
Yeah but there is a big difference in what they believe and what we believe!
Why would Israel kill a Muslim espousing Christian ideas?
It is not a Christian idea, don't be fooled.
Try playing a game of telephone for 2000 years with billions of people.
Just how close are "Christian" ideals to Jesus's teachings?
A good course 'Apologetics' would help.
If Christians would set on a journey to follow the lost years of Jesus Christ, they would know that Saint Issa is the name other religions give to him. I think its okay that other religions speak of the Christians savior by other names. I believe that no one religion has all the truth but the truth can be found in learning about all religions and ancient texts. I believe the ancient texts before the christian bible any day especially after learning that King James 1 also wrote the book of demonology. Don't tell me that he also wrote a book out of the goodness of his heart about christianity... without the intent to enslave his people.
I agree 100% with you about studying other sacred texts to gain more insight. On this website you can find almost all sacred texts: https://sacred-texts.com/
However, i think that demonology (the study of demons) was not per se studied by evil people, but primarily by the heroes and saints who fought against demons, i.e. against psychopaths and their ilk, in order to know their enemy. Today this ancient study of demonology would be called "psychopathology" (study of the sick minds) and "ponerology" (study of evil).
Nuke the jew war whores.