President Trump on 𝕏 — "Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle. . ."
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God, absolutely. But I have not seen anything in the bible to suggest that angels hear or answer prayers.
Well God or Christ sends them. But I’m sure the Angles have loooooong standing mission orders they can act on with instant blessing or rebuke.
And you and I are just guessing anyway haha. Who knows how it all really works communication-wise between them. 😁
That's why I believe it's best to look to what the bible says about the subject. Jesus Himself taught the apostles how to pray. And He never said it's acceptable to pray to created beings (angels, Mary.)
I'm sure some people think I'm just trying to pick a fight, and with sincerity, I am not. I just want to understand why catholics believe it's okay to pray to them. I don't see any biblical support for this and it's a pretty huge deal in the catholic church. I know, because I was raised catholic, l had first holy communion, confirmation and went to catholic school, learned catechism (for more than being taught the bible) and so forth.
In fact, I can distinctly remember being taught by a nun that since Mary is Jesus' mother, He will obey her. So if we pray to her to ask for something, she will tell Him and He will answer our pray and give it to us because He has to be an obedient son.
But nobody has been able to answer this question with biblical proof. And to me, it's a very, very serious thing. Because I love Jesus with all my heart and I want all people to know and love Him the way that I do. And I honestly, sincerely wonder and doubt the salvation of some catholics based on this issue.
1 Kings 8:39 says, "then hear in heaven your dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and render unto every man according to all his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men;
Only God/Jesus can hear your thoughts and know your heart. Not angels. Not the devil. Only God. And God answering to Mary…lol. She was Jesus earthly mother. A servant. A sinner. Because she was human. Only Jesus was sinless. Only through Jesus can you be saved. The scriptures are clear, a sinner cannot save you. The only way to the Father is through Jesus. Mary focused on what is important. She is amazing. And she would put a switch to alot of folks praying to her instead of Jesus.
Take the WHOLE quote including the last phrase: "for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men;" I interpret that as meaning that God is the only one who knows the hearts of ALL the children.... That means, to me that God is the one who can read everyone's mind & everyone's heart. Obviously the devil can read the hearts & mind of SOME people. That's unfortunate, of course, but if the devil had no power at all, then we wouldn't be in this mess in the 1st place!
Archangels can also read the hearts & minds of SOME people & it is certainly OK to request their help. I think Trump wrote this in a brilliant way.to not exclude people of other faiths. He said that we pray comma and do thou oh archangel. That means that we are praying (to God I presume) and that we request a mission of Michael. It is not a prayer to Michael but a request & yes, Michael can read our thoughts if God so allows it
I’ve had the same thoughts as you. This sure seems an awful lot like false god worship. Jesus taught us to pray to the Father and the disciples prayed to the Father and Jesus.
Mary was simply a faithful servant to God and acted as a vessel for God’s son, Jesus. She’s not his heavenly mother. Jesus is also known as the Word, and has been around since before creation (John 1:1). He was just made flesh through her.
Yes, Mary was a faithful servant to God Because she said YES to Him. But NO, she didn't simply act as a vessel for God's son. You're going to tell me that Mary was simply a vessel and after she gave birth and then she had no use? lol. Do you understand how holy someone would have to be to carry and then give birth to the Son of God!? You do understand that, through a process called Microchimerism, mothers carry their children's cells in their blood and other tissues even after birth. That would mean that Mary had Jesus' (God's) DNA in her. And to clear something up for you Prots. for the 5,000th time, lol, we do not worship Mary. Worship is reserved for God alone. We venerate her, hold her in high regard, respect the spiritual authority she has, and respect that she is Jesus' Mother. The same goes for the Saints in heaven. It's no different than when people ask one another, "Hey, I'm going through a time or I'm dealing with this thing, could you pray for me?" Seriously, if you actually want to learn about the Catholic faith, go to catholic.com and type in any question you have. You are pretty much guaranteed to find an article or discussion from actual Catholic apologists with an answer to your question.
Jesus is God incarnate, one Divine Person, two natures (NOT two persons!). It's called the Hypostatic Union in theology. To say that Mary was mother ONLY of the man Jesus is to divide His Divine Person in half which is impossible. She is indeed the Mother of God BECAUSE she is mother of the God-Man Jesus Christ. It's very logical.
The nun told you that in reference to the wedding at Cana, a story found in only in John's Gospel. Jesus was not ready to begin his public ministry yet. His reply to Mary when she told Him "They have no more wine" was "Woman, my HOUR has not yet come." But she trusted Him so completely, she told the servants, "Do whatever He tells you." And Jesus did her bidding, hastening the HOUR that figures so largely in John's Gospel, the HOUR of the crucifixion and redemption of the world. Pretty big deal there. Jesus doesn't HAVE to do anything; but these things were recorded that we might believe, as St. John says.
You are correct and I don't counter these arguments to be divisive. I endeavor to follow the written promises in the bible because God says that is how it works and I desire that all men be able to accurately amd precisiely access God's power and promises. Guessing, assuming and following fables can not produce God's solution so I do what the word says amd reprove, rebuke amd exhort others to God's Way as best I am able. It is done with love.
As someone who was baptized Catholic, grew up and left the church for a while, and eventually returned, I can tell you that I didn’t really understand the depth of my Catholic faith. It wasn’t until I started listening to Catholic apologetics on the Catholic Answers radio program that I started to better understand everything. I really encourage you to listen in and learn your faith in a deeper way. You can even go to catholic.com , type in any question you have, and find articles, interviews, etc… on the topic. I hope you decide to look into it. I laugh so hard when I see all these non-Catholics here on GAW trying to explain Catholic teaching and theology. Go to catholic.com , listen to Catholic Answers on the radio, and learn from people who REALLY understand the Catholic faith.
Actualy sir what you claim I am unable to find in the bible. Please refer me to where you got that angels have long-standing orders?
Otherwise.ill assume it is you who is guessing. From what I see in God's Word there is no need to guess as God claim His Word pertains to life and Godliness and God states many times He would not have us ignorant.
Like I said, I was guessing. Because none of us know how things reeeeally work between God, the Angels, and spirits. It just does and we are ignorant of how it really works. We aren’t there to actually know.
Really? God sent angels in reply to prayers all over the bible.
Prayers to God, God decides it the angel is sent or some other solution. The angels that were self willed got tossed. We don't pray to them.
Hmmm, I agree with you about self willed angels (aka demons), & yes, worship belongs only to God, however, I have no problem with what trump wrote here. Requests can be sent to anyone. We request things of other people so we can request things of angels as well. Trump asked Michael for assistance in defense, that's not a prayer anymore than when he asks his generals for for assistance in defense.
Demons can read minds. This has been documented multiple times. So why wouldn't angels also be able to do so? I think many here seem to think you need to be omnipotent to read a mind. There is no logical reason to believe this. Many higher beings other than God can read a person's thoughts.
Oh I agree. Some people can read minds too. Possibly even machines (Like the lie detector machine) Of course angles can often read our mind. By omnipotence, it is only God who can always read everyone's mind. I think that's what's confusing people here.
In this predicament on earth today, the demons & evil beings are clearly working with the people in the cabal. That means they can communicate with each other. God and the heavenly host are presumably working on the side of we the people, I do believe, & yes, with Trump. God knows all so he knows the thoughts of the good & the evil. Demons don't know all. If they did, they would know their plight is vain. They do know a lot though & yes, I think they communicate with the cabal. Since they don't know all, they still think there is a way for them to win. It is because of this ignorance that the battle even exists.
I agree with everything you said.Thanks