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On DPH wed night they were saying this was shady. The guy was committing bank fraud and knew about being investigated or indicted as far back as 2017. I’ll have to find the timestamp https://rumble.com/v5y70fe-devolution-power-hour-ep.-309-1030-pm-et-.html?e9s=src_v1_blp
I have no particular love for Roger Ver. His biases always outsized his intellect. He supported Craig the Grifter during the BSV fork. He was a cheerleader for Ripple. Lots of things this guy did make me very distrustful of him.
However, none of that justifies the US government using weaponized tax policies to go after him. He gave up his US citizenship, and several years later they come after him for specious claims that he was really the beneficial owner of crypto coins he didn't declare on his exit filing. That is not "bank fraud" in my opinion.
So, whatever my personal distrust is for him, this witch hunt by the IRS is unacceptable. Let the guy live in peace. He followed the rules based on the best legal advice available at the time.
If the government has some actual evidence of a crime, then present it. Otherwise, this kind of treatment isn't acceptable even for the enemy.
I listened to that too. This guy forked Bitcoin to make BitcoinCash. As Badlanders would say - it looks like he is trying to seed the narrative by going on Tucker.
I listened to a great interview on Mike Adam’s about Roger Ver and they said Vers was a strong supporter of Bitcoincash to facilitate using bitcoin as a payment method for person-to-person transactions—as bitcoin was originally intended.
It is fascinating the non-profit organizations he has founded, that he rarely ever mentions, such as the Brownstone Institute that Mr Vers was the founding donor, to research medical freedom (ie MAHA). I guess the nickname for Mr Ver is Bitcoin Jesus for all the donations he has made to organizations that support freedom of choice. Brighteon interview: https://www.brighteon.com/e29fcd79-6c8d-498e-bb7c-7b7afcf423fe
Thanks for that link.
Your welcome. As someone who’s is just recently really starting to research crypto and how institutions are trying to hijack the crypto community I see the potential but don’t really understand the process. There is a funny video on how crypto is viewed by many people I associate with:
https://fb.watch/ws5vKBRXgP/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
I would absolutely love to have a system that stops, or wakes people up to, the fractionalized banking system and imo coming banking collapse.
According to Grok, Roger Ver had no involvement in the forking of Bitcoin to BCH. However, was a supporter of it.
He didn't even really support BCH either until after the SegWit2x agreement fell thru due to the commie faction reneging on their deal as u/lash described in another comment.
I think Roger like many others at the time had little insight into how coordinated the Marxists actually were at the time.
Not saying I agree on everything Roger have done, but he have been treated very similar to how Trump have been and I have enormous respect for him pushing through.
Spez: that being said I think Adam Back and others have been compromised by Epstein Crew.
The way understand it, the group of people that took over BTC when Satoshi left (supposedly bankers) influenced the stalling of packet size scaling. Transaction packets were suppose to scale up in proportion to the size of the user base but this was stalled. This slowed BTC transactions down greatly. This group instead created the lightning network to solve the transaction rate issue. The lightning network may solve the problem but increases transaction costs as well. And will continue increasing them. Apparently these costs lessen the motivation of miners.
BTC Cash (BCH?) is a redesigned BTC that includes the upscale packet size and is supposedly far superior to BTC with regard to transaction rate.
It seems BTC is now better for wealth storage as where BCH is better as currency for transactions.
tl/dr bankers’ altering motives killed BTC as a currency and now BCH is better as currency.
Edit: FYI, I wrote to G-Money from Badlands about this asking for his thoughts on this since he is a HUGE BTC guy but instead of converse with me he cursed me up and down and told me not to come back.
BTC was the only version in the beginning, but this split after the bankers took over the codebase via a company called BlockStream (get it? Block the Stream of transactions), added replace by fee (destroying trust in the payments on the merchant side) added something called segregated witness to manipulate the storage use per transaction and capped the amount of transactions possible to ~7 per second effectively making BTC useless as "Peer to peer electronic cash system" as described in the Bitcoin Whitepaper.
So then when BTC commies broke their agreement (like all commies do) the codebase was split/forked into Bitcoin Core (BTC) and Bitcoin Cash (BCH) right before the segregated withess code crippled the code with overcomplexity even more.
So BCH is closer to the original Bitcoin and follows the incentive structure for ideal money as noted in the whitepaper.
But since barely anybody cares about principles compared to profits, everyone started to hype BTC as a "Store of Value" and the narrative have been going ever since, especially now with corrupt Wall Street pumping their now neutered financial replacement of the dollar that they control.
That's what they all do because they sold out Liberty for a lambo-hype. Corrupt as fuck.
SPEZ: Obligatory link to the main commie fucktard that killed the expansion of peer to peer electronic cash. He looks exactly like you would expect.. Nickname is One-meg Gregg:
https://www.weusecoins.com/images/gregory-maxwell.png
"...broke their agreement (like all commies do)" So, they're no different than US as far as foreign relations go, at least.
Thank you for adding insight.
Thanks for those comments, There is always so much more to learn about crypto. I just accumulate BTC right now.
I recommend you read the Bitcoin Whitepaper and Rogers book Hijacking Bitcoin and you will find what happened and why BCH is the only long term technical solution for peer to peer electronic cash
Satoshi is a fictional character. This idea that crypto leads to financial freedom is a trap, just like how the internet used to be free before they clamped down and weaponized it.
Have the internet not increased the global level of liberty? Truth shall set you free and where are we today?
Trump would NEVER have won without the internet.
True or not it has no relevance to this conversation. You’re most likely right but I don’t really care either way.
Not true. The fork happened independent of Roger.
RTFM && STFU
Roger wants more economic Liberty for the entire world and you can't even get the story straight.
The dude is facing 100+ years in jail and you think this interview is for him to pump his bags?
Do everyone a favor and don't be a low info retard.
I just posted what Badlands said. I didn't come up with that myself. I never heard of the guy before.
I was so frustrated listening to that segment I posted a comment to correct some of their points and BurningBright mocked me as he read it. I met him at one of their GART events a few months ago and tried to explain the Bitcoin Cash thing to him to his face and even then he just mocked me and couldn't get it. Almost everyone at Badlands has bought into the BTC maximalist narrative and label anyone who talks about other coins a "shitcoiner." GMoney can do nothing but insult people who try to point out BTC's flaws. Whenever I catch his show he rarely talks about anything interesting or teaches anything about the actual tech. Its just a big BTC circlejerk.
Same. This is good discussion though I appreciate everyone’s inpu. I’ll need to listen to the DPH part again then Tucker again and see where things go. 72 day rule.
Why so emo bro? Get a grip. Nothing said in that tone will ever be taken seriously.
I have been arguing with ignorant people like you since 2015.
Opinion bros like badlands and yourself that have not even read the Bitcoin Whitepaper are doing themselves and everyone they talk with an enormous disfavor when they accuse prominent liberty-pushing people like Roger Ver.
Talk like that is cheap, while RV have been putting his money where his mouth is for decades.
People like RV have been fighting Marxists forever and then instead of doing their due diligence of verifying info they are smearing their closest ally.