Seriously, complaints like these feel like doomers just trying to doom as usual. Might as well complain that food and energy prices haven't dropped to 2019 levels already.
Some of these people are unbelievable. deporting millions of people involves mind-blowing logistics, coordination with multiple groups and safety concerns. There is definitely going to be a learning curve. To expect tens of thousands of daily deportations immediately is completely unrealistic.
Stating hard facts is not dooming. We have 30 million illegals within our borders. Trump will only be in office for 48 months. That means we are going to need somewheres around 625,000 deportations per month, or around 156,000 per week to be rid of all of them by the time Trump is out of office.
Facts is facts. We are going to need to do a lot better. We need to target the slave masters.
I hope so, There is probably at least 30 Million. Trump should offer a plan for self-deporters to come back as guest workers if they are here for that.
Just keep quiet and read for a month before you open your mouth with trash opinions based on minimal knwoledge. Why do you feel like you're entitled to share you dooming opinions when you haven't even done some basic due diligence to provide a reasoned argument for your point of view.
Do you think it's really part of the process for everyone to share numbers daily so you're informed?
Do you think the number could increase? It being a week into the operation?
If we can only put about 150 people on a C-17 cargo plane per flight, 50K people would take 333 flights per day. We do not have that kind of capacity so I doubt flying illegals back home is the ticket. We will probably come up with a plan to send them back on cruise ships, trains, and buses. Non-criminal types (those who do not pose harmful intent) will probably get the conviences of a nice ride back home, while those who are hard core criminals get the bare bones C-17 treatment where we can keep them in chains for the entire duration. They don't need to be on a week long trip, only hours.
It took 4 years of them coming in - anticipate it will take about the same to put them back. Stopping the flow is happening, the wall is happening, the military is happening, states are being forced to comply, we waited a long time and we have only had 1 WEEK of the greatest President's policies. Patience to have it done right.
Agree. I lived in an agricultural area for most of my life. Migrants migrated, they followed the crops and went home in the late fall back to Mexico, we co existed peacefully. Then something happened (?) in I'd say the late 90's where they couldnt get papers to go back and forth home and services started - clinics, housing, day cares, esl trainings, etc. I believe this is when they became known as dreamers. WE dropped the ball on a system that worked. And now we have what we have - but not for long!!
It’s only been a week. President Trump had been doing sooo much. It will pick up as the red states start making rules that will facilitate Trumps orders.
I mean they could use more proactive and even overtly authoritarian methods. Such as for example rounding up one of the protesting crowds at gunpoint and separating the illegals and citizens.
But then you’ll deal with the Autistic screeching of the Libertarian end of the Right. And the autistic screeching of the lefties. Not to mention the complaints about the Constitution and setting precedent. It’s also worth noting this country is more heavily armed than ever.
All it could take is a couple dumbasses from either side of the political spectrum and some selectively edited video. And you suddenly have way more problems than just dealing with the Illegals.
The ones being deported currently are; Rapists, Murderers, Gang Members, Pedophiles, Drug Runners, etc. Americans will benefit from this phase of the mass exodus coming. The next phase is the implementation of laws that fine employers from hiring any illegal alien. Then the illegals will self deport in Yuge numbers.
And those in the next phase are already running scared with the reports going around of things like construction sites where over half of the workers stopped showing up this week.
Common sense says this need to happen in at LEAST two phases...
First, you need to round up the most violent. This takes the longest time (per person), so 1,000/day is quite the achievement!
After that, you can move into 'cutting off their funds', 'shutting down employers who hire illegals', etc. This will make deportations go MUCH faster, because it will influence a tremendous number of them to go home voluntarily.
But you can't do the second phase until the most dangerous folks are gone.
Here is a thought. They left their home country to find a better life here. They got rid of EVERYTHING there so what do they have to go back to? There is no infrastructure to house or feed such a mass of people in these third world countries, so I bet the countries will be begging Trump for financial assistance to repatriate them. Imagine you being an illegal from Venezuela and sold your house, got rid of your car, gave away all of your possessions so you could purchase passage to the north and got to America and began your new life. A few years later you are living large compared to what you came from and BAM! Trump sends you back. What would you do? Would your Venezuela government give you a new house or would you be placed in a slum tenament? What decision would you make? Would you voluntarialy go back or would you begin to move around America trying to keep one step in front of Holman? Decisions, decisions, decisions.
I agree with you. But I never said they'd ALL leave, but (seeing as they have nothing) there is certainly a fair number that would rather go back home (where it's cheaper to live, and you won't be constantly hunted).
Births no longer = citizenship. Trump, Horman, et. al., are getting the worst of the worst first. Once the military aged tattooed gangsters are gone, they can get the rest in larger numbers at a later time. Soon, we’ll eventually get Barry to claim Kenyan citizenship.
The numbers are not going to cut it. But, give it time to ramp up. I'm certain there is room for improvement. What upsets me about the deportation initiative is that it is too limited in scope- it fails go target the slave masters.
The way to end illegal immigration is to end illegal hiring (pseudo-slavery) by corporations. Hiring illegal aliens needs to be punished with arrests, fines, and most importantly- financially ruinous asset seizures for the offending business. Yes, they deserve to be put out of business. Auction off seized assets to the public. Target the head of the snake, and illegal immigration mostly fixes itself. Trump needs to stop bending to lobbyists, and target the corporations as part of this deportation operation.
Don't forget the border is now sealed and a lot are self-deporting. Border Boss Homan says the numbers will pick up and I'm confident they will.
Seriously, complaints like these feel like doomers just trying to doom as usual. Might as well complain that food and energy prices haven't dropped to 2019 levels already.
Some of these people are unbelievable. deporting millions of people involves mind-blowing logistics, coordination with multiple groups and safety concerns. There is definitely going to be a learning curve. To expect tens of thousands of daily deportations immediately is completely unrealistic.
Stating hard facts is not dooming. We have 30 million illegals within our borders. Trump will only be in office for 48 months. That means we are going to need somewheres around 625,000 deportations per month, or around 156,000 per week to be rid of all of them by the time Trump is out of office.
Facts is facts. We are going to need to do a lot better. We need to target the slave masters.
It's only been 1 week and you're ignoring how many are already self-deporting because the raids have them scared.
Their birthrate is probably more than 1,000 a day.
I hope so, There is probably at least 30 Million. Trump should offer a plan for self-deporters to come back as guest workers if they are here for that.
Just keep quiet and read for a month before you open your mouth with trash opinions based on minimal knwoledge. Why do you feel like you're entitled to share you dooming opinions when you haven't even done some basic due diligence to provide a reasoned argument for your point of view.
Do you think it's really part of the process for everyone to share numbers daily so you're informed?
Do you think the number could increase? It being a week into the operation?
Fuck your guest workers.
Geeze, a handshake account that wants to pick fruit,
Maybe because they are starting with the hard core criminals. They would be harder to arrest,I assume.
But we need 50k a day. FFS
Yes! 50k a day would work!
If we can only put about 150 people on a C-17 cargo plane per flight, 50K people would take 333 flights per day. We do not have that kind of capacity so I doubt flying illegals back home is the ticket. We will probably come up with a plan to send them back on cruise ships, trains, and buses. Non-criminal types (those who do not pose harmful intent) will probably get the conviences of a nice ride back home, while those who are hard core criminals get the bare bones C-17 treatment where we can keep them in chains for the entire duration. They don't need to be on a week long trip, only hours.
We could also use those airli es who brought them in to take them back. I'm all for executing the violent ones
It took 4 years of them coming in - anticipate it will take about the same to put them back. Stopping the flow is happening, the wall is happening, the military is happening, states are being forced to comply, we waited a long time and we have only had 1 WEEK of the greatest President's policies. Patience to have it done right.
There have been millions who have come into the USA for my entire life however giving out benefits to co e here and vote is relatively new
Agree. I lived in an agricultural area for most of my life. Migrants migrated, they followed the crops and went home in the late fall back to Mexico, we co existed peacefully. Then something happened (?) in I'd say the late 90's where they couldnt get papers to go back and forth home and services started - clinics, housing, day cares, esl trainings, etc. I believe this is when they became known as dreamers. WE dropped the ball on a system that worked. And now we have what we have - but not for long!!
Great info!
It’s only been a week. President Trump had been doing sooo much. It will pick up as the red states start making rules that will facilitate Trumps orders.
Yes
I mean they could use more proactive and even overtly authoritarian methods. Such as for example rounding up one of the protesting crowds at gunpoint and separating the illegals and citizens.
But then you’ll deal with the Autistic screeching of the Libertarian end of the Right. And the autistic screeching of the lefties. Not to mention the complaints about the Constitution and setting precedent. It’s also worth noting this country is more heavily armed than ever.
All it could take is a couple dumbasses from either side of the political spectrum and some selectively edited video. And you suddenly have way more problems than just dealing with the Illegals.
A dangerous powderkeg
The ones being deported currently are; Rapists, Murderers, Gang Members, Pedophiles, Drug Runners, etc. Americans will benefit from this phase of the mass exodus coming. The next phase is the implementation of laws that fine employers from hiring any illegal alien. Then the illegals will self deport in Yuge numbers.
Yes
And those in the next phase are already running scared with the reports going around of things like construction sites where over half of the workers stopped showing up this week.
Common sense says this need to happen in at LEAST two phases...
First, you need to round up the most violent. This takes the longest time (per person), so 1,000/day is quite the achievement!
After that, you can move into 'cutting off their funds', 'shutting down employers who hire illegals', etc. This will make deportations go MUCH faster, because it will influence a tremendous number of them to go home voluntarily.
But you can't do the second phase until the most dangerous folks are gone.
Yes, however many haven't paid the cartels for bringing g them in. They face viole ce if we don't clean out the cartels in those cou tries
Here is a thought. They left their home country to find a better life here. They got rid of EVERYTHING there so what do they have to go back to? There is no infrastructure to house or feed such a mass of people in these third world countries, so I bet the countries will be begging Trump for financial assistance to repatriate them. Imagine you being an illegal from Venezuela and sold your house, got rid of your car, gave away all of your possessions so you could purchase passage to the north and got to America and began your new life. A few years later you are living large compared to what you came from and BAM! Trump sends you back. What would you do? Would your Venezuela government give you a new house or would you be placed in a slum tenament? What decision would you make? Would you voluntarialy go back or would you begin to move around America trying to keep one step in front of Holman? Decisions, decisions, decisions.
I agree with you. But I never said they'd ALL leave, but (seeing as they have nothing) there is certainly a fair number that would rather go back home (where it's cheaper to live, and you won't be constantly hunted).
The rest need to be rounded up.
Doomers going doom.
Wasn't doo ing just impatient with the slow starti
Births no longer = citizenship. Trump, Horman, et. al., are getting the worst of the worst first. Once the military aged tattooed gangsters are gone, they can get the rest in larger numbers at a later time. Soon, we’ll eventually get Barry to claim Kenyan citizenship.
Yep first get rid of the ones who would do the rioting and burning if their slave masters ordered it.
The numbers are not going to cut it. But, give it time to ramp up. I'm certain there is room for improvement. What upsets me about the deportation initiative is that it is too limited in scope- it fails go target the slave masters.
The way to end illegal immigration is to end illegal hiring (pseudo-slavery) by corporations. Hiring illegal aliens needs to be punished with arrests, fines, and most importantly- financially ruinous asset seizures for the offending business. Yes, they deserve to be put out of business. Auction off seized assets to the public. Target the head of the snake, and illegal immigration mostly fixes itself. Trump needs to stop bending to lobbyists, and target the corporations as part of this deportation operation.
Comment of the day!
Some great points. Going to watch Doral now I'm a night owl