Can someone explain this belief that work-from-home means watching TV all day and doing nothing? Stephen Miller thinks it, Elon Musk seems to think it, and Tim Pool thinks it.
I worked for a University once where people in the office would have Hulu on one monitor and work on the other monitor at their desk. Even when I was in the office of a private company years ago, you would routinely see people with shows on their phones or monitors, yet getting work done. I work from home and I'm a top performer in my department, and I work regardless of whether I'm listening to or watching something. Every week I hear "wow, you did a lot this week!" And I'm doing exactly as I did in the office: listening to podcasts and watching a YouTube video periodically.
If people working from home aren't actually working, it's either a lack of work to be done, or a lack of accountability. Going into an office can't fix that. It's like some weird baby boomer holdover mentality.
Im WORKING from home too. In my office no netflix. I listen to podcasts on my phone which is not govt issued and I work. I actually have to keep a daily log of what I do even tho they can tell what you are doing daily. I think they are trying to flesh out those who arent working. We were told this morning by email our rtw is feb 20. I will say that there are a lot of people who do not do anything or get by on the bare min. But there are a lot of people who work there butts off too.
Same here. I worked from home successfully a day out of the week. The trend among developers / programmers is to use a really good laptop and to have an extra monitor that plugs into it; so your workplace has either a dock or direct plug in and a stand (and also standing desks). Having a laptop means you can take your work with you and work out of a coffee shop or at home. And when you work from home, it's usually far too difficult to lay down with a laptop on your chest unless you're doing unserious work like answering emails or researching something or reading tech blogs relevant to your wor (all of which IS work). Also: you don't know if your prog mgr or peers are going to videoconf with you, so you try to maintain professionalism even at home. This means you still take a shower, shave, wear a decent shirt and make yourself avialable. Your'e still "online" with comms apps like chat, you're still fielding questions in email, you're still doing actual work
When I worked at a startup my friend and I started, I worked from home 65 hrs a week on avg, and then during our last 2 week push 75 hour weeks. I guess it just boils down to are you a professional person or not? The concept of fucking around on reddit or watching netflix while at work, or even (the WORST offense in my book) working on some other person/company's website while you're 'at work', are just not problems / things I've ever had/done. I was never the kind of person to disappear into the bathroom with my phone and spend 30 minutes in there giggling at stuff on reddit, like I know some of my peers did when I worked at an ngo and agency downtown denver
A final thing I'll say about working from home / telecommuting (which means working anywhere but at your workplace) is that you can get into the zone more because you don't have derps coming around and getting into your grill demanding stuff or bossderps that are dragging you into unnecessary, unrelevant to your own work meetings all the time and messing up your flow
I had dinner with one of my dearest friends of 40+ years on Saturday. She is a government employee lifer.... Working under the DOD. She told me that the email she received from OPM said to not go into the office Monday because the union is still in negotiations and they all believe the lawsuits against firing will prevail. She also said they were told NOT to accept the severance offer, the reason being, they won't really get the money....
My husband is with DHS, and they all have to be back this week or they're fired. Union and OPM haven't said anything to them. If I were your friend, I wouldn't risk it. If the union loses, they can still be fired.
I remember when the flight control union went on strike and President Reagan fired them all . On August 3, 1981, during a press conference regarding the PATCO strike, President Reagan stated: "They are in violation of the law and if they do not report for work within 48 hours they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated." In February 1981, PATCO and the FAA began new contract negotiations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7GJV9x07Qw
Came to say this. The workforce has been orderded to return to the office. They choose not to? Insubordination, and direct termination results regardless of the unioni.
Most feds have not received instructions as such. They would receive official instruction from their agencies.
Not sure what angle maybe some 5D chess thing.
The truth is that federal taxpayers are either subsidizing federal workers as they sit at home and watch Netflix or sit at their cubicle playing Word Wipe (an actual game) and Minecraft all day long.
i suspect many of them are ghost employees for laundering money, i recall Elon saying the same ss numbers being used over and over, imagine collecting thousands of payrolls checks from employees that don't even exist
I do too. Miller says what needs to be said whether you like it or not. No beating around the bush. No skipping around peoples feelings. Forget the platitudes. Blunt and honest. That’s how I want my information.
Can someone explain this belief that work-from-home means watching TV all day and doing nothing? Stephen Miller thinks it, Elon Musk seems to think it, and Tim Pool thinks it.
I worked for a University once where people in the office would have Hulu on one monitor and work on the other monitor at their desk. Even when I was in the office of a private company years ago, you would routinely see people with shows on their phones or monitors, yet getting work done. I work from home and I'm a top performer in my department, and I work regardless of whether I'm listening to or watching something. Every week I hear "wow, you did a lot this week!" And I'm doing exactly as I did in the office: listening to podcasts and watching a YouTube video periodically.
If people working from home aren't actually working, it's either a lack of work to be done, or a lack of accountability. Going into an office can't fix that. It's like some weird baby boomer holdover mentality.
Im WORKING from home too. In my office no netflix. I listen to podcasts on my phone which is not govt issued and I work. I actually have to keep a daily log of what I do even tho they can tell what you are doing daily. I think they are trying to flesh out those who arent working. We were told this morning by email our rtw is feb 20. I will say that there are a lot of people who do not do anything or get by on the bare min. But there are a lot of people who work there butts off too.
My tax money didn’t pay your salary.
Same here. I worked from home successfully a day out of the week. The trend among developers / programmers is to use a really good laptop and to have an extra monitor that plugs into it; so your workplace has either a dock or direct plug in and a stand (and also standing desks). Having a laptop means you can take your work with you and work out of a coffee shop or at home. And when you work from home, it's usually far too difficult to lay down with a laptop on your chest unless you're doing unserious work like answering emails or researching something or reading tech blogs relevant to your wor (all of which IS work). Also: you don't know if your prog mgr or peers are going to videoconf with you, so you try to maintain professionalism even at home. This means you still take a shower, shave, wear a decent shirt and make yourself avialable. Your'e still "online" with comms apps like chat, you're still fielding questions in email, you're still doing actual work
When I worked at a startup my friend and I started, I worked from home 65 hrs a week on avg, and then during our last 2 week push 75 hour weeks. I guess it just boils down to are you a professional person or not? The concept of fucking around on reddit or watching netflix while at work, or even (the WORST offense in my book) working on some other person/company's website while you're 'at work', are just not problems / things I've ever had/done. I was never the kind of person to disappear into the bathroom with my phone and spend 30 minutes in there giggling at stuff on reddit, like I know some of my peers did when I worked at an ngo and agency downtown denver
A final thing I'll say about working from home / telecommuting (which means working anywhere but at your workplace) is that you can get into the zone more because you don't have derps coming around and getting into your grill demanding stuff or bossderps that are dragging you into unnecessary, unrelevant to your own work meetings all the time and messing up your flow
RTO is retarded.
I agree to an extent. Managers know who's working and who's not. Why punish everyone?
Just wait till it comes out how many of those people receiving weekly paychecks from the government don't actually exist.
That's gonna set some peoples hair on fire.
Oof! Can you imagine? 🤯
I'm sure the money is somehow finding it's way to people who do exist, though. Oopsies! 😑
I had dinner with one of my dearest friends of 40+ years on Saturday. She is a government employee lifer.... Working under the DOD. She told me that the email she received from OPM said to not go into the office Monday because the union is still in negotiations and they all believe the lawsuits against firing will prevail. She also said they were told NOT to accept the severance offer, the reason being, they won't really get the money....
No wonder not many of them are taking it
My husband is with DHS, and they all have to be back this week or they're fired. Union and OPM haven't said anything to them. If I were your friend, I wouldn't risk it. If the union loses, they can still be fired.
I remember when the flight control union went on strike and President Reagan fired them all . On August 3, 1981, during a press conference regarding the PATCO strike, President Reagan stated: "They are in violation of the law and if they do not report for work within 48 hours they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated." In February 1981, PATCO and the FAA began new contract negotiations. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7GJV9x07Qw
Came to say this. The workforce has been orderded to return to the office. They choose not to? Insubordination, and direct termination results regardless of the unioni.
Most feds have not received instructions as such. They would receive official instruction from their agencies. Not sure what angle maybe some 5D chess thing.
Might be a way to purge dead / fake federal employees from the taxpayer payroll (money laundering)
The truth is that federal taxpayers are either subsidizing federal workers as they sit at home and watch Netflix or sit at their cubicle playing Word Wipe (an actual game) and Minecraft all day long.
And that’s not even counting state employees. I have two of them in my family that literally do exactly what you had outlined.
There are stories like this all over the nation. BTW, what state do you live in?
Commiefornia
i suspect many of them are ghost employees for laundering money, i recall Elon saying the same ss numbers being used over and over, imagine collecting thousands of payrolls checks from employees that don't even exist
I love Miller. He and I are birds of the same feather. When we get going on a rant there is no stopping us.
I do too. Miller says what needs to be said whether you like it or not. No beating around the bush. No skipping around peoples feelings. Forget the platitudes. Blunt and honest. That’s how I want my information.
Backfilling. I believe a lot of people have been gone for years.
Ah, so thats why our parking lot was so full this morning?