All these pope related characters are associated with religion. That's an entirely different thing than what Christ pointed to.
The ultimate answers are not in a church. They're not from another person. They're within you.
Few will ever get that. Whether they're looking for permission from some perceived authority, which will never come or something other reason.
It's all available to you, right now. No need to go to church. No need to die. It's here now.
The Christ within you is waiting for you to experience true communion. It's a very personal thing. Few will do it... like a rich man, a camel and the eye of a needle.
These religious characters have zero bearing on my eternal soul. Do they have bearing upon yours? Just curious...(Retired Roman Catholic choir and alter boy asking...)
When the pope pushed mRNA, that's when I knew the catholic church was completely corrupted and needs to be purged. I don't go to church, I pray in the privacy of my home and I was blessed by staying unvaccinated. Eventthough I lost my job and friends, I still keep praying and bring greatful for being a pure blood.
Yeah, no problem. It's definitely a big burden that we're being depended on to help out. At this point God's throwing us in as "hammer forged steel". While we could sit back, we can can always add another element in before we get folded and beat up some more to keep our edge!
SPOT-ON. My wife and I left mainline denomination United Methodists several years ago. There's a faction of the UMC (Global UM's, I think?) that hews more closely to Scripture, and which we may someday rejoin...but for now, we are both SERIOUSLY burned on organized religion.
I guess the "church thing" all depends on what you expect to get out of it.
Some attend strictly for social aspects. Others, like myself, were interested in hearing the inspirational words of the Christ.
However, I found myself at a young age, spiritually starving, for lack of better term. It took going "the long way around" to finally have ears to hear and eyes to see. Sad the church wasn't able to provide those pointings, as you'd expect... but that's the rub isn't it? If they give you the REAL keys to freedom and salvation, you won't need them anymore. Clever racket they're running.
There might be other churches out there, or maybe new sects breaking off of the old ones coming. I know that, with the Episcopal church it has gotten woke-tarded and vax pushy but I found out that, I guess some bishops broke off & started what they now call the Anglican church. I think they broke off a few decades ago & were pretty small but I think they are growing. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar happens with the Catholic. Ideally Vigano should & invite some other Cardinals to join him. Actually, more ideally, the Cardinals should apologize for the errors of Francis & nominate Vigano to be the next Pope, but I'm dreaming...
This ArchBishop needs to read his Bible to know who has been trying to undermine Christianity for more than 1000 years. They took a SINGLE verse from the Bible and used it as justification to create a church with so many aspects of what Jesus came to denounce!
He read and learned from it so thoroughly the Vatican excommunicated him! The official charge was "schism" meaning his understanding of the Bible made them afraid of what he said so much they did everything in their power to denounce his words.
I think you replied to the wrong person or aren't aware of how much the Vatican fears his words. They literally excommunicated him, its a fact you can verify for yourself with no effort.
The Vartican did its best to try and deny the Truth by excommunicating him, but they didn't stop him from speaking or the faithful to listen to what he says.
He is faithful to what matters - not to those who have corrupted the Vatican. and thats why they fear him so much.
Right, they fear his words because he was rightfully criticizing our leadership, not talking about some new profound knowledge he got from reading the bible. I also know I am talking to the right person.
Many Catholics rightfully, were agreeing with him, so the leadership did their best to silence him. That is my point, he will forever be Catholic because we believe it to be the true faith, but we also acknowledge that our leadership has become infiltrated.
Agreed. There's nothing profoundly new or unique about what he says - its just reading the bible and quoting it back to people who should already know the words. What IS profound is that the Vatican fears knowledge of the bible's teachings this much and absolutely abhors anyone learning from the bible in ways that they don't pre-approve for general sermon use. The bible is a threat to certain Vatican elites' worldly wealth and power.
All Catholics should agree with him. He isn't saying anything profane or untruthful. They attempted to silence him specifically because his words threaten profit and centralized power, and therefore are dangerous to those who would twist faith for evil. Thus the "schism" charge - acknowledging that he is correct and that being correct causes problems for the Vatican which is built on generations of suppressing the truth to centralize power and wealth.
But see, he is not against a centralized power at all. What he was saying was that the current centralized power, has become corrupted. The doctrine is solid, meaning how the bible is taught and its current interpretations are the best the world has to offer.
Vigano is not against those interpretations at all, he is against the freemasonry that is plaguing all areas of life at the moment. The structure does not need to change, only those who are abusing said structure. This is why Vigano is still Catholic. It is simply wrong to suggest that, he is going against doctrine or learned something new and is currently trying to make a new religion out of it. All Catholics love the Church, we all want to see new leadership that will uphold the doctrine.
True. but it often takes seeing the undermining of Christianity for yourself to break free. All the Reformers started out in the Catholic church, as did their forerunners like Wycliffe and Hus... until they started reading Scripture for themselves and realized how far Rome had strayed from the Gospel.
Rome was never not “strayed from the Gospel”. Christmas was the Saturnalia and Easter was moved so it never intersects with Passover. False from the start.
Thank you for correcting this. Passover and First Fruits of barley were the Biblical Festivals we were originally celebrating. But then some of the Pharisees decided First fruits of barley should always be celebrated on the 16th (rather than the first day of the week that falls within the week of Unleavened bread) so we lose the picture from both sides, except with some Messianic believers. (Both True Jews and Gentile believers, Romans 11)
Based on the amount of lying to us all our lives, there's a lot of "re-alignment learning" for all of us regardless of which doctrine we follow. Not to mention we're apparently going to have to acknowledge "other worldly" beings and where that leads.
Source: https://x.com/CarloMVigano/status/1914273114587824193
Thank you!
The Christ pointed to the good stuff...such as:
"The kingdom of God is within you"
All these pope related characters are associated with religion. That's an entirely different thing than what Christ pointed to.
The ultimate answers are not in a church. They're not from another person. They're within you.
Few will ever get that. Whether they're looking for permission from some perceived authority, which will never come or something other reason.
It's all available to you, right now. No need to go to church. No need to die. It's here now.
The Christ within you is waiting for you to experience true communion. It's a very personal thing. Few will do it... like a rich man, a camel and the eye of a needle.
These religious characters have zero bearing on my eternal soul. Do they have bearing upon yours? Just curious...(Retired Roman Catholic choir and alter boy asking...)
When the pope pushed mRNA, that's when I knew the catholic church was completely corrupted and needs to be purged. I don't go to church, I pray in the privacy of my home and I was blessed by staying unvaccinated. Eventthough I lost my job and friends, I still keep praying and bring greatful for being a pure blood.
As a Catholic I agree, our Church has gotten corrupted.
You should probably go to Church though, it helps the soul.
Also a Catholic here. We've apparently been given the task of Sheep Dogs and will lead the flock accordingly, no matter were God needs us to.
Not gonna lie, you made it sound very cool. I am proud to be a sheep dog.
Yeah, no problem. It's definitely a big burden that we're being depended on to help out. At this point God's throwing us in as "hammer forged steel". While we could sit back, we can can always add another element in before we get folded and beat up some more to keep our edge!
https://www.tritonmetalalloys.com/blog/forged-steel/
SPOT-ON. My wife and I left mainline denomination United Methodists several years ago. There's a faction of the UMC (Global UM's, I think?) that hews more closely to Scripture, and which we may someday rejoin...but for now, we are both SERIOUSLY burned on organized religion.
I guess the "church thing" all depends on what you expect to get out of it.
Some attend strictly for social aspects. Others, like myself, were interested in hearing the inspirational words of the Christ.
However, I found myself at a young age, spiritually starving, for lack of better term. It took going "the long way around" to finally have ears to hear and eyes to see. Sad the church wasn't able to provide those pointings, as you'd expect... but that's the rub isn't it? If they give you the REAL keys to freedom and salvation, you won't need them anymore. Clever racket they're running.
Pointings for whom they are intended: 771 , 396
You'll know quickly if it's for you or not
There might be other churches out there, or maybe new sects breaking off of the old ones coming. I know that, with the Episcopal church it has gotten woke-tarded and vax pushy but I found out that, I guess some bishops broke off & started what they now call the Anglican church. I think they broke off a few decades ago & were pretty small but I think they are growing. I wouldn't be surprised if something similar happens with the Catholic. Ideally Vigano should & invite some other Cardinals to join him. Actually, more ideally, the Cardinals should apologize for the errors of Francis & nominate Vigano to be the next Pope, but I'm dreaming...
This ArchBishop needs to read his Bible to know who has been trying to undermine Christianity for more than 1000 years. They took a SINGLE verse from the Bible and used it as justification to create a church with so many aspects of what Jesus came to denounce!
You really think he doesn't read the bible at all?
He read and learned from it so thoroughly the Vatican excommunicated him! The official charge was "schism" meaning his understanding of the Bible made them afraid of what he said so much they did everything in their power to denounce his words.
I don't think you have paid attention to anything that he has ever said and done.
He is still Catholic and fiercely loyal to the doctrine of the Church. It's why he still wears his bishop attire.
I think you replied to the wrong person or aren't aware of how much the Vatican fears his words. They literally excommunicated him, its a fact you can verify for yourself with no effort.
The Vartican did its best to try and deny the Truth by excommunicating him, but they didn't stop him from speaking or the faithful to listen to what he says.
He is faithful to what matters - not to those who have corrupted the Vatican. and thats why they fear him so much.
Right, they fear his words because he was rightfully criticizing our leadership, not talking about some new profound knowledge he got from reading the bible. I also know I am talking to the right person.
Many Catholics rightfully, were agreeing with him, so the leadership did their best to silence him. That is my point, he will forever be Catholic because we believe it to be the true faith, but we also acknowledge that our leadership has become infiltrated.
Agreed. There's nothing profoundly new or unique about what he says - its just reading the bible and quoting it back to people who should already know the words. What IS profound is that the Vatican fears knowledge of the bible's teachings this much and absolutely abhors anyone learning from the bible in ways that they don't pre-approve for general sermon use. The bible is a threat to certain Vatican elites' worldly wealth and power.
All Catholics should agree with him. He isn't saying anything profane or untruthful. They attempted to silence him specifically because his words threaten profit and centralized power, and therefore are dangerous to those who would twist faith for evil. Thus the "schism" charge - acknowledging that he is correct and that being correct causes problems for the Vatican which is built on generations of suppressing the truth to centralize power and wealth.
But see, he is not against a centralized power at all. What he was saying was that the current centralized power, has become corrupted. The doctrine is solid, meaning how the bible is taught and its current interpretations are the best the world has to offer.
Vigano is not against those interpretations at all, he is against the freemasonry that is plaguing all areas of life at the moment. The structure does not need to change, only those who are abusing said structure. This is why Vigano is still Catholic. It is simply wrong to suggest that, he is going against doctrine or learned something new and is currently trying to make a new religion out of it. All Catholics love the Church, we all want to see new leadership that will uphold the doctrine.
Exactly, the mafia is the Vatican and they will do anything in their power to stop people like Archbishop Vigano. They are evil disciples
True. but it often takes seeing the undermining of Christianity for yourself to break free. All the Reformers started out in the Catholic church, as did their forerunners like Wycliffe and Hus... until they started reading Scripture for themselves and realized how far Rome had strayed from the Gospel.
Rome was never not “strayed from the Gospel”. Christmas was the Saturnalia and Easter was moved so it never intersects with Passover. False from the start.
Thank you for correcting this. Passover and First Fruits of barley were the Biblical Festivals we were originally celebrating. But then some of the Pharisees decided First fruits of barley should always be celebrated on the 16th (rather than the first day of the week that falls within the week of Unleavened bread) so we lose the picture from both sides, except with some Messianic believers. (Both True Jews and Gentile believers, Romans 11)
Pope is antipope and catholic church does have its issues
But protestants of many varities are just as bad. Catholicism at least acknowledges the supernatural nature of Christianity.
Not to mention they will not condemn you for dancing or wearing a skirt above the knees..
Based on the amount of lying to us all our lives, there's a lot of "re-alignment learning" for all of us regardless of which doctrine we follow. Not to mention we're apparently going to have to acknowledge "other worldly" beings and where that leads.
Just as we had all expected: https://newrepublic.com/post/194199/jd-vance-kill-pope-francis-investigation
I was wondering what his background check was going to reveal!
The Mystery of the Eastern Orthodox Church
https://youtu.be/kbqcLpxbHl4
https://youtu.be/_xaj8QSJZ0E
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come;
thy will be done;
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation;
but deliver us from the evil one.
For thine is the kingdom,
the power and the glory,
for ever and ever. Amen. ☦️
Amen!