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Remember this tweet? Virginia Giuffre Did Not Kill Herself (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve 1 year ago by aslan_is_0n_the_m0ve +168 / -0
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– VERITASAEQUITAS 23 points 1 year ago +23 / -0

No matter how many times people say they are not suicidal people always believe the suicide story. It's so easy for the deep state... sigh.

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– Toblathe 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

No matter how many times the assasin shoots them in the back of the head people wil always believe the suicide story. Some people just aren't capable of thought.

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– proforma1 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It almost seems that if there are no consequences for people's actions they will do anything even commit murder and make it look like suicide. People need to be punished for the crimes they commit and the punishment should be severe@

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

And how many times do people announce they are not suicidal and yet commit suicide anyway? How many "anti-depressant" drugs have declared side effects including suicidal mentation? How many people keep guns in the house, yet shoot themselves anyway? No prior statement is a proof against suicide. Somebody recommended to me a video of Isaac Kappy's final commentary, where he disclaimed any intention of suicide. But to watch the video, he was obsessed with matters of how he was to account for what he had done with his life. That was a direct pointer to someone who was struggling with the ultimate worth of his own existence. No surprise after watching that to think he committed suicide.

You have to know what to recognize. And often there is nothing to recognize.

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– IronLionZion 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You actually believe Isaac Kappy committed suicide ? Both of them- Isaac and Virginia- vowed at some point that they are “not suicidal”. a few things here, if you’re already saying this about yourself, you’re likely already feeling like someone will be coming after you. Both had divulged pretty damning evidence, and had more damming evidence to give. One things for sure : plenty of people wanted them dead , and most of those people had the desire of covering up their tracks .. suicide is much more convenient

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

All it took was to view Kappy's tape. He was morbidly obsessed over what he may or may not have done in his life. He had stopped looking at the future and was dwelling on the right or wrong of his past. That qualifies as suicidal if the present seems to be at a dead stop.

"I'm not suicidal" is also denialism. We are constructed psychologically to equate what we say to what is true. Except for liars. And sometimes people say such things to convince themselves it is true. But denial is self-lying. There is a contradiction going on, and committing suicide resolves the contradiction. Think of the suicidal state as being like solitary confinement, except in time rather than space. Where in solitary confinement you are frozen to be in one place, in suicidal thinking you are frozen in one time---where circumstances or truths cannot change. You are no longer an agent capable of changing the future. If you really get a grip on this outlook, I think you will agree it is intolerable. It is like being cast in amber, alive but incapable of life. Don't get me wrong. It is a mistaken view, but the person has turned his gaze so far inward, he cannot see the world any more.

This basically outlines the reality that if you are going to disclose terrible secrets, you have to get it done all at once, so no one gains anything by going after you before you finish the job.

Suspicion must be based on grounds for it. The case of Vince Foster was pretty apparently NOT consistent with suicide: the place, no blood marks, the bizarre weapon, the agitation leading up to the death, the inept authorities. We don't know the circumstances of Giuffre's death, so it is premature to start up the theory-cooking machine.

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– KnockKnockItsJinx 12 points 1 year ago +12 / -0

I don't know how she survived at all. What a burdened life

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– PeaceAndLovePatriot 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Quieted?

Odd choice of words.

Usually someone says silenced.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Usually, people are right-handed. Usually, people like vanilla ice cream. Usually, people have normal lives. Do you begin to see how completely meaningless "usually" is when describing someone's choice of words?

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– PeaceAndLovePatriot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Not all all. You must not be from around these parts?

Everything that appears abnormal is analyzed.

Closed mindedness is literally completely meaningless, especially here.

~Shadilay

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Except for when the ordinary is misidentified as abnormal. Somebody who is short may be "abnormal", but that is only an accident of a normal distribution, not a conspiracy. Thinking that a short person is ordinary is not closed-minded. Thinking that they are NOT ordinary IS closed-minded.

Unless you think left-handed people are unusual (a seventh of the population). Or that non-white people are unusual (racist)? Or that everyone without brown eyes is unusual (20%)? You wind up "analyzing" practically everyone.

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– dec3169 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

She posted that 5.5 years ago. A TON of things can happen in that time. I'm not saying she did or didn't kill herself - just that people can change a lot in 5.5 years. Remember - she lived through a lot of trauma as one of the victims Epstein passed around like a toy.

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– Shalimar 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Yep. I commented the same on another post here regarding her "suicide". While I don't believe she committed suicide, that old tweet is not part of my reasoning. It's too old, and as you said, lots can happen in almost 6 years.

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– Toblathe 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

She is on the verge of seeing justice and billionaires, politicians, and well connected high level murderers are afraid... so she changed her mind and forfeits at the 99 yard line? Nah. Either arkancided or in protective custody with a transparent cover story.

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– dec3169 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Yeah I think so as well. I commented on one of the posts when she was in the hospital, talking about how stupid it was for her to move to a commonwealth country when she already took down one of the royals.

As for protective custody - I don't know how Australia works. Do they have witness protection? Would the US work a deal with Australia to bring her back to the states?

I'm leaning towards her being killed - not killing herself. She was the face of the takedown of a prince. Those pictures will never go away.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The essence of suicide is to have a completely mistaken view of the world, one's place in it, and the prospects for change. And having run out of nerve. Human toleration for misery is not infinite; it will snap. It doesn't matter what the world is like when that point is reached. By that point, their focus is internal.

I think the ability (not the certainty) to talk a pending suicide "off the ledge" is based on the attempt to communicate being a fact that contradicts their withdrawal. It is a cognitive dissonance to show that their worldview (no one cares for me, I am doomed) is mistaken, and that the fact that this talkdown is a change in the world may show there is the possibility of change.

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– Bobandarella 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

She's not dead

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– BatteryBaron 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Witness protection

u/#correct

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Oh? You've seen her since? Why not show the photo and amaze the world?

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– BatteryBaron 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Riiiight... cus that's how it works around here. Some person you've never met, who is "dead" but probably in wit pro, okay, I'll just spin up a photo on stable diffusion to put your mind at ease, bless your heart, sunshine.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

So, you are just talking through your hat. For you, belief is better than facts. I don't think you are a scientist.

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– BatteryBaron 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The part that you don't get is that 80% of the Q op is not public, being done behind the scenes. It's up to us to figure it out. Speculation, connecting the dots, whatever you want to call it. If you want 100% factual just go back to watching cnn and listening to the talking heads.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Ever been presented with a connect-the-dots book, but the dot array is not numbered? You can connect them to get garbage because you don't know HOW to connect them. It is possible to conduct investigation and obtain more dots, closer together, where connecting them is not subject to such error. Half of what I see here is sheer fantasy. It impairs any value we might have to tutor ordinary people.

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– Bobandarella 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Don't need to just like I know the air I breathe exists. Turns out we have the ability to manipulate space and time . Straight from Mr kratsios. I told you proof is always better served cold

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Mr. Kratsios was using an old, old metaphor for the advent of flight, that made time and distance of travel both shorter. Don't confuse metaphor for New Science.

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– Bobandarella 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'm not, two things can be true at the same time. We have technology that moves space around an object instead of moving through space.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

A multitude of things can be true at the same time. I can be in the Seattle area and a foot is 12 inches. That's a trivial statement. But two things cannot be true at the same time if they are contradictory. Your distinction is only one of perspective, not physics. When we sit in a railroad car, it certainly seems that the countryside is moving. Children are amused by these realizations.

We do not have any magic technology. Somehow, that is the hardest truth for a truth-seeker to awaken to.

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– Bobandarella 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Magic is real , the term magic has been demonized to mean unnatural evil or fake . That's a truth that many can't reconcile

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

What "magic"? Rabbits out of hats? Sawing someone in half? What, exactly, is real about "magic"?

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... continue reading thread?
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– StrzoksMangina 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

This a bit misleading. The judge wasn't arrested for defying immigration laws.

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