Exactly my sentiment on the issue. Some see going to church as being saved but as you know much more to it than just attending church and of course tier one is accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and the only true way to the Father
I walked away from Christianity when I was younger. I had come to accept the post-enlightenment era lie that the supernatural wasn't real. And if the supernatural wasn't real, then neither were miracles.
But I never stopped believing in God as a creator, so at least my reasoning still functioned correctly in that regard. I just thought we lived in a clockwork universe set in motion billions of years ago, a view that aligned me with Deism.
Then Q woke me up and showed me evidence of true evil. From there I saw the top-down power structures of this evil controlling the entire world. Then I started wondering why those in power worshipped evil gods that traced back to Babylon. Or why evidence of the Nephilim has been hidden in archeology. Or why Jerry Merzinsky, after 40 years as a psychotherapist, proved undeniably that paranoia schizophrenia is caused by demonic entities. Or all the other evidence of entities influencing this world. Or how these entities recoil at the mention of Christ.
All of this has become new to me in the past 4.5 years. It's probably new to Joe Rogan too. I'm certain he has seen all this evidence and more.
So yeah, recognizing a supernaturally-sourced evil that controls the world will cause a healthy-minded person to seek a church pronto.
It also proves that the concealment of the supernatural was the most effective strategy against Christianity that the fallen angels ever devised.
Praying for you brother; Jesus is the only way. Pray that God opens your heart to receive Him. It's amazing when He does; and I pray that happens for you brother. To the world the Bible is just folly but to those that know Him it is the one source of truth. Truly brother let go and give it a real attempt; it will change everything.
I walked away from church too... and I will never go back.
It was important for my soul to deeply understand what the Christ was teaching and pointing to... and then do that in practice.
This is where religion and I part ways. They'll never truly teach you Christ's true message because if they did, you wouldn't need them anymore, ever again. It's not a good business model...
It takes a certain level of maturity and courage to understand that the Christ doesn't need to be, nor wants to be worshipped. Christ is referred to as, "The Way", not as the destination. There's a reason why. "You can do all these things and more..."
Once your soul reaches a certain level of spiritual understanding, you get just how insanely egotistical and low consciousness the whole worshipping thing really is.... I've had clingy girlfriends that were complete pushovers - what an absolute turn off. Now imagine people wanting to worship you...insert finger into throat and give it a good tickle... I wonder if some can permit themselves to imagine that while the desire to shoot scripture and dogma out of Gatling guns my way burns white hot....
I know what I'm saying here will not connect with most... and it'll get all twisted up into some knee-jerk thing like you're gonna pray for my soul or something... please don't. I'm good.
I don't need religion to follow the pointings of the Christ and to dwell in communion with the Christ in the temple built without human hands...
The Christ said, The kingdom of God is within you. Right here. Right now. Not later. Not after you physically die... Right now. How many are waiting to die to see if you were right vs how many are seeking out the Christ within themselves as instructed?
No answer required - this is completely rhetorical. Your connection to God is your business. I don't run with the herd. God made me this way.
Things people either don't understand or don't want to understand, goes into the cognitive dissonance fallacy filter... especially if you're BAC.
To be clear, if you go to church - good for you. That's your prerogative. I respect that. I just ask for the same respect in return... Let's see if that's possible.
My standard first and foremost is God's Word and truth.
If anyone takes a position that is contrary to God's Word I am not going to "respect" that position anymore than I will "respect" some dude's pronouns that's wearing a dress.
The enemy loves isolating believers and keeping them out of church. I'm not going to respect his accomplishments.
I would encourage you to find a solid church, they are out there. There are dozens of churches in my city that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. That doesn't take away from some solid churches out there like the 2 I attend that don't have the problems you listed.
Don't "Do you"
Your Bible actually warns about that quite extensively. Do what God commands.
Slow down there Disco...Nobody is attacking your precious church.
I can only relate MY experience & if YOU personally don't like what I said, do the Christian thing and forgive me. Then move along. (You can do something else too, but I'd imagine that's not what the Christ would recommend - so I'll refrain)
If anyone takes a position that is contrary to God's Word ...
Cite exactly what I said that is, "Contrary to God's Word". I triple dog dare ya!
What you REALLY mean to say is...
"If anyone is contrary to What my pastor/priest/middleman TOLD ME " which I go around repeating like a self-righteous parrot is VERY different than "contrary to God's Word".
Quit while you're ahead. I'll never attend church ever again. Not Catholic church...not cowboy church...not any church. I don't need anything they're selling. I've got a direct line through Christ to the Almighty...and I don't need to attend beef & beer socials and chip in the second collection for IsisRaEl. But you can if you want...and I levy zero judgement to people that do. You do you.
But for some reason, YOU don't like the possibility that others aren't exactly like you - doing the church thing. That's pretty lame dude. Grow up already.
Never said you were. Are you really going to misrepresent me and make a straw man fallacy very first thing out of the gate? Do better.
if YOU personally don't like what I said, do the Christian thing and forgive me.
I disagree with what you said because it conflicts with scripture. Super simple stuff. Forgive? You didn't sin against me. I'm giving you correction and you are responding like a fool. I don't need to forgive you, I'm instructed to shake the dust off my sandals at this point.
I don't need anything (a church) is selling.
Good churches aren't selling anything.
But for some reason, YOU don't like the possibility that others aren't exactly like you - doing the church thing.
It's not me, it's God. HE commands believers to be a part of the body of Christ. As a Christian I'm instructed to test everything with scripture and hold my brothers accountable. It seems you don't like accountability which could be your real problem.
I also never said jack crap about supporting Israel. Any decent church with historic eschatology wouldnt be putting Israel central to anything. They would be addressing local and national issues. i.e. my church helped overturn Roe v Wade and have bills of abolition pending all over the nation.
I get it... You had a bad experience with some bad churches. The enemy has used that to separate you from the flock. Now you attack anyone that tries to set your bitterness and offense aside but you're holding onto that sin and bitterness.... just like the enemy wants you to.
The bottom line is you can't support your position from scripture/ God's Word. Reconcile that.
Gods word was taught to by men with an AGENDA...a VERY ASCUED AGENDA. The WHOLE Old Testament was getting people to build a NATION that serves God. The USA is that NATION and is CURRENTLY giving BIRTH to that. I know it's hard but keep reading and you will see it eventually.
Tell us what EXACTLY what you will rule & reign when Christ returns and where Heaven is?
Think garden of Eden is in USA? Heaven started in Montana...? Boy are you in for a SUPRIZE...$20 spot says your pastors won't be exactly what you thought.
There's a reason why they come after Christians and Christ. We don't thrive on violence or force. We don't terrorize people like muslims or Jews. We stay peaceful, yet they come after us like we're a "huge" danger.
The reason is because Jesus is the truth. He is who we know he is. The evil forces that we've all uncovered validate that Satan is real and Jesus is our Trump card.
I wish you luck in your walk with Christ. I am struggling with somethings at the moment and trying to rely on him to repent. It's very difficult but throughout my rabbit hole adventures, there's only 1 thing I am 100% certain on.
Jesus is the Savior. The Bible is the most accurate historical piece of evidence we have in human history.
I've been tracking Joe for years; if this is true it would be amazing..not sure I'm sold on it though. Every Christian guest that tries to drive that nail home that Jesus Christ is Lord he still seems reluctant to accept.
I will say that Dave Smith seems to be a little closer than Joe, he's right on the bubble.
Either way so wonderful to see so many turning to Christ and we should all pray hard for both Joe and Dave to accept Jesus Christ is their Lord and savior. God is so good!
It's natural for someone who has a liberal history like Rogan. But there is a trend going on here that is obvious. People are turning to Christ and there seems to be a huge revival based on the terrible years we just went through.
Imagine if Rogan got on fire for Christ? How many souls he could help save? Would be amazing. We never know what God's plan is, but Rogan being a Christian would be a huge W for the kingdom.
Joe loves his Aliens n' shit for sure...but don't think for a second he hasn't been a WH asset for eons.Trump helped fund the UFC and Joe was working there since the dawn of man. He claimed once a few years ago he 'never met Trump and didn't ever want him on his show'..he tipped his hand. It would be absurd to think Joe and Trump didn't meet 100 times (or more) over. Soon as he said that I absolutely knew Trump would be on his show right before the election. I remember telling all my normie friends to expect Trump on the Rogan podcast in a few months..they were all like what, no way, he hates him, never happening. This actually helped wake them up with my "prediction". Just like Elon and Twitter, Joe was the podcast asset. I.E.: Joe Rogan is an Operative.
βI wanted Bigfoot to be real, just like I want Jesus to be real.β Lol! I think he is doing his due diligence to make sure he is not overlooking some evidence for Jesus and his dad being real.
I hope he actually trusts Jesus as his Savior instead of just going to church. Church didn't die for him, Jesus did.
Agreed. I hope he's attending a church that is focused on God, and what Jesus has done for us.
If Wes Huff says he's attending a church, he means a real church and not some social club calling itself a church.
Well said.
Nailed it
Exactly my sentiment on the issue. Some see going to church as being saved but as you know much more to it than just attending church and of course tier one is accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and the only true way to the Father
There are so many bad churches now - I'm happy yet I'm not sure at the same time. Church is just a fake social event for most people.
God Bless him.
I'm in the same boat as Joe.
I walked away from Christianity when I was younger. I had come to accept the post-enlightenment era lie that the supernatural wasn't real. And if the supernatural wasn't real, then neither were miracles.
But I never stopped believing in God as a creator, so at least my reasoning still functioned correctly in that regard. I just thought we lived in a clockwork universe set in motion billions of years ago, a view that aligned me with Deism.
Then Q woke me up and showed me evidence of true evil. From there I saw the top-down power structures of this evil controlling the entire world. Then I started wondering why those in power worshipped evil gods that traced back to Babylon. Or why evidence of the Nephilim has been hidden in archeology. Or why Jerry Merzinsky, after 40 years as a psychotherapist, proved undeniably that paranoia schizophrenia is caused by demonic entities. Or all the other evidence of entities influencing this world. Or how these entities recoil at the mention of Christ.
All of this has become new to me in the past 4.5 years. It's probably new to Joe Rogan too. I'm certain he has seen all this evidence and more.
So yeah, recognizing a supernaturally-sourced evil that controls the world will cause a healthy-minded person to seek a church pronto.
It also proves that the concealment of the supernatural was the most effective strategy against Christianity that the fallen angels ever devised.
Read the book of John. Praying for you!
Praying for you brother; Jesus is the only way. Pray that God opens your heart to receive Him. It's amazing when He does; and I pray that happens for you brother. To the world the Bible is just folly but to those that know Him it is the one source of truth. Truly brother let go and give it a real attempt; it will change everything.
I walked away from church too... and I will never go back.
It was important for my soul to deeply understand what the Christ was teaching and pointing to... and then do that in practice.
This is where religion and I part ways. They'll never truly teach you Christ's true message because if they did, you wouldn't need them anymore, ever again. It's not a good business model...
It takes a certain level of maturity and courage to understand that the Christ doesn't need to be, nor wants to be worshipped. Christ is referred to as, "The Way", not as the destination. There's a reason why. "You can do all these things and more..."
Once your soul reaches a certain level of spiritual understanding, you get just how insanely egotistical and low consciousness the whole worshipping thing really is.... I've had clingy girlfriends that were complete pushovers - what an absolute turn off. Now imagine people wanting to worship you...insert finger into throat and give it a good tickle... I wonder if some can permit themselves to imagine that while the desire to shoot scripture and dogma out of Gatling guns my way burns white hot....
I know what I'm saying here will not connect with most... and it'll get all twisted up into some knee-jerk thing like you're gonna pray for my soul or something... please don't. I'm good.
I don't need religion to follow the pointings of the Christ and to dwell in communion with the Christ in the temple built without human hands...
The Christ said, The kingdom of God is within you. Right here. Right now. Not later. Not after you physically die... Right now. How many are waiting to die to see if you were right vs how many are seeking out the Christ within themselves as instructed?
No answer required - this is completely rhetorical. Your connection to God is your business. I don't run with the herd. God made me this way.
Over generalization fallacy.
Not all churches and pastors are equal.
God commands His people to be a body together under specific leadership.
You do you...
I'll do me.
Things people either don't understand or don't want to understand, goes into the cognitive dissonance fallacy filter... especially if you're BAC.
To be clear, if you go to church - good for you. That's your prerogative. I respect that. I just ask for the same respect in return... Let's see if that's possible.
My standard first and foremost is God's Word and truth.
If anyone takes a position that is contrary to God's Word I am not going to "respect" that position anymore than I will "respect" some dude's pronouns that's wearing a dress.
The enemy loves isolating believers and keeping them out of church. I'm not going to respect his accomplishments.
I would encourage you to find a solid church, they are out there. There are dozens of churches in my city that I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire. That doesn't take away from some solid churches out there like the 2 I attend that don't have the problems you listed.
Don't "Do you" Your Bible actually warns about that quite extensively. Do what God commands.
Slow down there Disco...Nobody is attacking your precious church.
I can only relate MY experience & if YOU personally don't like what I said, do the Christian thing and forgive me. Then move along. (You can do something else too, but I'd imagine that's not what the Christ would recommend - so I'll refrain)
Cite exactly what I said that is, "Contrary to God's Word". I triple dog dare ya!
What you REALLY mean to say is...
"If anyone is contrary to What my pastor/priest/middleman TOLD ME " which I go around repeating like a self-righteous parrot is VERY different than "contrary to God's Word".
Quit while you're ahead. I'll never attend church ever again. Not Catholic church...not cowboy church...not any church. I don't need anything they're selling. I've got a direct line through Christ to the Almighty...and I don't need to attend beef & beer socials and chip in the second collection for IsisRaEl. But you can if you want...and I levy zero judgement to people that do. You do you.
But for some reason, YOU don't like the possibility that others aren't exactly like you - doing the church thing. That's pretty lame dude. Grow up already.
Never said you were. Are you really going to misrepresent me and make a straw man fallacy very first thing out of the gate? Do better.
I disagree with what you said because it conflicts with scripture. Super simple stuff. Forgive? You didn't sin against me. I'm giving you correction and you are responding like a fool. I don't need to forgive you, I'm instructed to shake the dust off my sandals at this point.
Good churches aren't selling anything.
It's not me, it's God. HE commands believers to be a part of the body of Christ. As a Christian I'm instructed to test everything with scripture and hold my brothers accountable. It seems you don't like accountability which could be your real problem.
I also never said jack crap about supporting Israel. Any decent church with historic eschatology wouldnt be putting Israel central to anything. They would be addressing local and national issues. i.e. my church helped overturn Roe v Wade and have bills of abolition pending all over the nation.
I get it... You had a bad experience with some bad churches. The enemy has used that to separate you from the flock. Now you attack anyone that tries to set your bitterness and offense aside but you're holding onto that sin and bitterness.... just like the enemy wants you to.
The bottom line is you can't support your position from scripture/ God's Word. Reconcile that.
Good day
All that judgement and presumption and you didn't cite exactly what I said that is, "Contrary to God's Word".
I knew you wouldn't...
Gods word was taught to by men with an AGENDA...a VERY ASCUED AGENDA. The WHOLE Old Testament was getting people to build a NATION that serves God. The USA is that NATION and is CURRENTLY giving BIRTH to that. I know it's hard but keep reading and you will see it eventually. Tell us what EXACTLY what you will rule & reign when Christ returns and where Heaven is? Think garden of Eden is in USA? Heaven started in Montana...? Boy are you in for a SUPRIZE...$20 spot says your pastors won't be exactly what you thought.
Lol dude you know nothing about the science of textual transmission.
I could wipe the floor with your assertions.
Your still talking and I am still standing....NEXT
There's a reason why they come after Christians and Christ. We don't thrive on violence or force. We don't terrorize people like muslims or Jews. We stay peaceful, yet they come after us like we're a "huge" danger.
The reason is because Jesus is the truth. He is who we know he is. The evil forces that we've all uncovered validate that Satan is real and Jesus is our Trump card.
I wish you luck in your walk with Christ. I am struggling with somethings at the moment and trying to rely on him to repent. It's very difficult but throughout my rabbit hole adventures, there's only 1 thing I am 100% certain on.
Jesus is the Savior. The Bible is the most accurate historical piece of evidence we have in human history.
God bless
Amen!
I think that's Wes Hoff, the guy that slapped Billy Carson around with 9" of limp ...
Wes also got embarrassed by Andrew Schultz of all people.
Not really
He got owned on the issue of the true church.
Martin Luther is rolling in his grave for what has become of his βreformationβ.
I wouldn't lean too much on Martin Luther for the reformation. He was just the catalyst.
Iβm thinking itβs his own business no one elseβs
I've been tracking Joe for years; if this is true it would be amazing..not sure I'm sold on it though. Every Christian guest that tries to drive that nail home that Jesus Christ is Lord he still seems reluctant to accept. I will say that Dave Smith seems to be a little closer than Joe, he's right on the bubble. Either way so wonderful to see so many turning to Christ and we should all pray hard for both Joe and Dave to accept Jesus Christ is their Lord and savior. God is so good!
It's natural for someone who has a liberal history like Rogan. But there is a trend going on here that is obvious. People are turning to Christ and there seems to be a huge revival based on the terrible years we just went through.
Imagine if Rogan got on fire for Christ? How many souls he could help save? Would be amazing. We never know what God's plan is, but Rogan being a Christian would be a huge W for the kingdom.
That is good news, way to go Joe!
Poor guy...he will find out soon enough.
Joe loves his Aliens n' shit for sure...but don't think for a second he hasn't been a WH asset for eons.Trump helped fund the UFC and Joe was working there since the dawn of man. He claimed once a few years ago he 'never met Trump and didn't ever want him on his show'..he tipped his hand. It would be absurd to think Joe and Trump didn't meet 100 times (or more) over. Soon as he said that I absolutely knew Trump would be on his show right before the election. I remember telling all my normie friends to expect Trump on the Rogan podcast in a few months..they were all like what, no way, he hates him, never happening. This actually helped wake them up with my "prediction". Just like Elon and Twitter, Joe was the podcast asset. I.E.: Joe Rogan is an Operative.
https://thepostmillennial.com/joe-rogan-says-hes-sticking-with-jesus-questions-big-bang-theory
βI wanted Bigfoot to be real, just like I want Jesus to be real.β Lol! I think he is doing his due diligence to make sure he is not overlooking some evidence for Jesus and his dad being real.