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Not Everyone With U.S. Citizenship Is Actually An American (thefederalist.com)
posted 350 days ago by Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay 350 days ago by Mow-Lawn-Lah-Bay +92 / -0
Not Everyone With U.S. Citizenship Is Actually An American
As we approach Independence Day, we should be honest about the forces that are dissolving our American nation.
thefederalist.com
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– TinkAnon 19 points 350 days ago +19 / -0

I think that since the illegal immigration policies of past administrations have been unlawful, we should establish a means of revoking citizenship. For instance Communists and persons with dual citizenships. Also all those anchor babies.

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– russiah 4 points 349 days ago +4 / -0

Boston mayor Wu said she ain’t going nowhere 😢

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– Standingoak 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

"They all have a plan, until they get punched in the mouth"

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– JSSS 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

That you Champ?

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– Standingoak 1 point 349 days ago +1 / -0

Just a legend in my own mind.

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– deeluna 3 points 349 days ago +3 / -0

As long as children of US citizens/military members born abroad is not revocable.

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– TinkAnon 3 points 349 days ago +3 / -0

They want to revoke citizenship on immigrants who were naturalized but lied on their application, had criminal backgrounds & submitted fraudulent paperwork or like Omar married her brother to get him into the country. Or it would be great to revoke citizenship on subversive members of the communist party.

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– Godisglory1 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

Agreed. I have a problem with my US naturalization. I did all legal and wait 16 years to become US citizen, 10 to become US resident waiting in my old country and 6 for US citizenship. Practically 17 years at the end. Guess who signed my US naturalization papers? The Renegade, I am screwed. What am I going to do?

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– TinkAnon 1 point 349 days ago +1 / -0

I do not believe you have anything to worry about.😊

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– Godisglory1 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

I hope so because I bet he will claim Kenia citizenship.

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– RedNonna 8 points 349 days ago +8 / -0

"De-naturalization" is a thing - let's go! Excellent article.

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– Godisglory1 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

Agreed specially with the one who want to become Governor of NY. A lot of Muslims are taking over this country already, take a look at Texas and on top of that he swore on the Quran.

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– redtoe-skipper 6 points 349 days ago +6 / -0

This is a great piece. I wrote a blog about the US-constitution some time ago and contrasted it with the Dutch Constitution, which was conceived in 1813 under the auspice of the British, amended a few times, not to the People's advantage.

the Phrase that caught my eye in the article is this, where the end objective or TELOS is discussed:

not a relativistic seeking after pleasure or fulfillment, but the acquisition of moral virtue.

OF interest is, that in the 80-ties Charel Kroll wrote a Doctoral thesis on the Dutch Constitution and

  1. during the debates of 1848, that created the STATE OF THE NETHERLANDS as a separate semi autonomous entity within the KINGDOM OF THE NETHERLANDS, pertaining to the reason for people to NEED a physical representation of GOD i.e. image;
  2. though the Dutch constitution is based on moral virtue i.e. anyone in .gov service has their own duty to moral virtue and, when transgressing, being automatically sacked, Charel wrote:

The myth of the good ruler and his “bad” advisors still plays out as of old, even in the highest regions of democratic states. True democratisation must then be understood as inner liberation; it is certainly not yet a quiet achievement, forever secured, of Western democracy. Is, in any case, individual freedom yet forever the last word? Must community, justice, faith, the values portrayed by the king, simply give way to freedom? But freedom without the three values of the monarchical is debauchery, civil war, chaos. The monarchical is what it increasingly appeared to be in the text: For the sake of human freedom impossible, and at the same time, for the sake of human dignity, also necessary.

The issues come out best when we no longer view the monarchical but the divine as the representation of the three values. Even more than the king, God symbolizes community, justice, faith. And here too the constant and vivid dilemma, that the God-idea is on the one hand, as a symbol of higher values, necessary, and on the other hand, a threat to human independence and responsibility, impossible. Finally, in this tension we discern the theological partner of Thorbecke's constitutional interweaving of royal command power and ministerial freedom and responsibility; Thorbecke himself also explicitly espoused this theology.

It simply shows that the current ideology concerning people betrays a deep seated distrust towards the people. This distrust has permeated throughout the several .gov's.

And this also explains why the DS governments cannot be successful, as it is not based on trust to transact but distrust. Hence, the DS .gov is detrimental to society.

The DS ideology is based on Marxism, based on the idea that an instrument made by man, can and should be formative with regards to society. This puts the relationship on its head. After all, society begets the state, not the other way around. It is interesting to read the reports and white papers coming out of the IC-community, focused on security and threat assessment (perception) in relation to the idea of sovereignty, be it personal, physical, local, regional, or on the level of a state. Everything must be bigger with more subdued management levels.

DS hates sovereignty, except for themselves. It is a destructive system.

It is a truism, that a .gov which governs least is the best .gov.

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– AmateurExpert 5 points 349 days ago +5 / -0

Shal’t be e’er a magnificent delight our sojourn of return to florid verse, emparting thusly higher thoughts upon the minds of men through deliberation, pushing thence the baser inclinations to which we for far too long have been accustomed.

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– redtoe-skipper 1 point 349 days ago +1 / -0

Amen!

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– Hope4thefuture 5 points 349 days ago +5 / -0

Because to many immigrants today enter the U.S. and become citizens, not to become a part of the U.S., not to assimilate, but for other devious purposes, there must be laws created that if you are not born in the U.S. of parents already U.S. citizens, you may not run for any government office. And if you infiltrate with the purpose to bring in communism, socialism or a takeover by any religion other than God, Christianity, then your citizenship is revoked and you are deported back to your country of origin. You see how at least 7-8 major cities in Great Britain have been taken over by muslims, most likely placed in I , not voted in office. We must guard the U.S. and prevent this from happening or even certain locales being policed by the Chinese or those who believe in Sharia law. If they want to practice by their laws then they need to return to their country of origin, not infiltrate tochange the world.

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– pepewarrior0102 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

Love it.

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– TexasPatriot_40 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

I believe I heard Trump say that if some one became a naturalize citizen and they commit a crime they will lose there citizenship and be deported

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– Raritan 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

Look at Obama.

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– REAL_Shepherd 1 point 349 days ago +1 / -0

EVERY CHILD BORN TO MILITARY PERSONEL born outside the USA is 100% a naturalize citizen....how about them apples. More American than some of the people born here. How you going to deal with it. My ORGINIAL Ancestors came over on the Mayflower from BOTH SIDES of my family...I am Snow-White

My ROOTS are NOT from the Pilgrims Society(Fakes), mine are 100% the Original "Separatists"

CRO-- I AIN'T LOST --I once was lost but now I am FOUND

**NOTES--Not a Hirling

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– thekingofracine 3 points 349 days ago +3 / -0

Hmm, my brother was born on an Air Force base in Korea - my dad is 100% American, his mom was some local woman who wound up dying during childbirth so my Dad brought him home to live with us. He's been a US citizen for 68 years now ha!

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– REAL_Shepherd 1 point 345 days ago +1 / -0

He's a NATURALIZED CITIZEN...there's a difference. Same as a Immigrant who come legally

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 349 days ago +2 / -0

News Flash...........you don't have to be a US Citizen to be in the military so if the service member and his wife/her husband aren't citizens, their child is not one either.

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– Rainspa 1 point 349 days ago +1 / -0

i am a Mayflower descendant, but don't know about any Pilgram Society chicanery. what gives? Of course not from a pilgrim, so prob not t my fight.

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