Sounds like many here idol the guy. SMH
Lots of entertainers are going to go down. They are not who you think they are..... great memories, but don't hold on too tight on what you perceive them to be.
Amen to that! I love music but I don’t idolize the artist. There’s some artists I won’t listen to and really liked them years ago. I got in GaGa very late and listened a few years. Listened to early Taylor Swift also. I would turn the station if they came on the radio. There’s many others but those stand out as evil. We really don’t know these actors and singers, only the image they show us.
People seem to be attached like they "know" them. I was a teenager in the 70's; lots of great artist then. But you are so right! The "image" is what people hold on to.
I can't think of a musician alive that will get the send off and the worldwide outpouring of love that Ozzy is deservedly getting. Maybe McCartney. Can you think of anyone?
Ozzy had a unique and loyal following, from early Black Sabbath, solo career, OzFest days, the TV show, etc. Each reached a different audience and built on a new group of people.
I don't know of anyone else who had that reach and breadth.
Is this an English thing? They could have been so great, so united, if only they didn't let the Muslims in, if only their royals weren't retarded and perverse, and bought by the Kazarian Jews.
As for McCartney, there are so many conspiracies surrounding him. We're not even sure if he's the real McCartney.
As for the Osbournes, my heart breaks for them. Their family is close.. Ozzy loved his kids and was good to his kids. They grew up alright and have matured. Sharon has always been a mom and wife through and through, fighting for her family's survival.. someone we can all relate to. I cried a little watching that.
Losing a spouse, especially a long term spouse, is very painful. Feels like part of your heart has been ripped out. Not something anyone truly understands til they live thru it. My condolences
Sharon stood by him until the very end. I have been a fan of Ozzy for very long. Seeing his family in the Osbournes made me a fan of all of them. If only we all had a Sharon as a wife. The world would be so much better.
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
Black Sabbath and Ozzy played a huge part in many people's lives in both the UK and the US. Do not be so quick to judge those who have had a large part of their youth torn from them symbolically. This is not christlike thinking. Let them mourn their loss.
This is not a direct comment, but a general one to all the critics that have posted.
Having lost my own father suddenly and unexpectedly at the end of January, I really feel for his family. My mother is just now coming out of her "widow's fog" (apparently a very real thing).
Maybe it's just me but shouldn't funerals be more subdued? This is like a carnival -- how does this atmosphere support a grieving family?
I wouldn't call this "love" from fans -- rather a weird form of voyeurism and a desire to "participate" in something so they can later make claims to have "been there".
I assume behind the scenes this man's life as a husband and father was far more important to his family than his life as a musician. He should have been buried as such. Whoever talked the widow into this circus (I doubt she's thinking clearly) should be ashamed of themselves.
The funeral itself was private, the public procession was a way to manage coverage to prevent the actual funeral service being disrupted by media or anyone else
I hope you're right. That display was appalling. I've seen footage of Presley's funeral and his fans were at least respectfully standing on the sidelines and not whooping and clapping.
I don't recall seeing any footage of Michael Jackson's funeral but somehow I can't imagine his fans acting like that either.
I'm pretty sure whatever public personna this man had was simply that -- his gimmick to stand out among a crowd of musicians to "make a buck". Not that I would deny him the opportunity to have done so (no matter how distasteful I might find biting bats to be). If it worked for him and brought him fame and fortune -- good for him. But I don't believe anyone should take that public personna seriously and feel they actually "knew" what this man was really like in his personal life.
I'm glad you said that they had a chance to bury the actual man and mourn him quietly by themselves.
Beloved musicians have a lot of people that care about them - many millions of fans, and hundreds or thousands of fellow musicians they've met and became friends with along the way.
Funerals: it's best to go easy on the "shoulds". Since the deceased specifically and very publicly requested it be loud and not a "mope fest". Honoring Ozzy's wishes is the right thing to do, and a comfort to the family.
Recognizing love is an important skill. That man was LOVED. The crowd, the family, the band, the public, Pat Boone, myself, and I'm sure a good portion of this board loved him.
Ozzy was uniquely himself. He and his family did exactly what he and his family wanted. It was perfect. Not perfect for everyone, but perfect for Ozzy.
The idea of Sharron being "talked into" anything is to laugh.
I think your heart is in the right place, but a little skewed to an ideal that isn't part of the Osbornes' vision after all, remember the man requested his epitaph to read "Bats taste like shit!"
Depends on the situation. My mom loved tie dye and one of her last requests was that we all wear tie dye t shirts and jeans to her funeral. Hard to be too somber when you're dressed like that but we did it.
Sounds like many here idol the guy. SMH Lots of entertainers are going to go down. They are not who you think they are..... great memories, but don't hold on too tight on what you perceive them to be.
Amen to that! I love music but I don’t idolize the artist. There’s some artists I won’t listen to and really liked them years ago. I got in GaGa very late and listened a few years. Listened to early Taylor Swift also. I would turn the station if they came on the radio. There’s many others but those stand out as evil. We really don’t know these actors and singers, only the image they show us.
People seem to be attached like they "know" them. I was a teenager in the 70's; lots of great artist then. But you are so right! The "image" is what people hold on to.
THEY (all entertainers) aren't like us.
I can't think of a musician alive that will get the send off and the worldwide outpouring of love that Ozzy is deservedly getting. Maybe McCartney. Can you think of anyone?
Keith Richards will get a big one ... in 3367 or 4117.
I heard Covid caught Keith Richards and died. RIP Covid
i know they'll do it for Elton John regardess.. he's like their aunty Mrs Doubtfire
Ozzy had a unique and loyal following, from early Black Sabbath, solo career, OzFest days, the TV show, etc. Each reached a different audience and built on a new group of people.
I don't know of anyone else who had that reach and breadth.
POTUS
Alive? Prob not. Maybe McCarthy? Jagger? Elvis' was just as big, or bigger.
But a currently living artist, I can't think of anyone who would get an Ozzy or Elvis level procession
Elton
good call. He'll probably get a massive sendoff
They're all bad. Especially Sharon. No more celebrity worship. They are part of all that we are against.
Is this an English thing? They could have been so great, so united, if only they didn't let the Muslims in, if only their royals weren't retarded and perverse, and bought by the Kazarian Jews.
As for McCartney, there are so many conspiracies surrounding him. We're not even sure if he's the real McCartney.
As for the Osbournes, my heart breaks for them. Their family is close.. Ozzy loved his kids and was good to his kids. They grew up alright and have matured. Sharon has always been a mom and wife through and through, fighting for her family's survival.. someone we can all relate to. I cried a little watching that.
Losing a spouse, especially a long term spouse, is very painful. Feels like part of your heart has been ripped out. Not something anyone truly understands til they live thru it. My condolences
Sharon stood by him until the very end. I have been a fan of Ozzy for very long. Seeing his family in the Osbournes made me a fan of all of them. If only we all had a Sharon as a wife. The world would be so much better.
Sharon milked him. She treated Iron Maiden like shit during the 2005 Ozzfest. She can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.
2 peas in a pod
What has this got to do with TGA?
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
Black Sabbath and Ozzy played a huge part in many people's lives in both the UK and the US. Do not be so quick to judge those who have had a large part of their youth torn from them symbolically. This is not christlike thinking. Let them mourn their loss.
This is not a direct comment, but a general one to all the critics that have posted.
Having lost my own father suddenly and unexpectedly at the end of January, I really feel for his family. My mother is just now coming out of her "widow's fog" (apparently a very real thing).
Follow the wives...
Even if someone is a handler, they can still care about and even love someone(human emotions/psychology is never a straight line...)
Just a thought to consider:
What If Kelly is(or rather was as 1.0 is gone now) a son and Jack is a daughter.......
how they 'worship'......
This shit is a LOT more pervasive and insidious than even most people here would believe...
Exactly Fren.
But, it's generational, up and down the family. Which means...... if you know you know.
Would that put 99% in the hospital? The way people are "fawning" over "him", seems like it could.
IMHO:
Maybe it's just me but shouldn't funerals be more subdued? This is like a carnival -- how does this atmosphere support a grieving family?
I wouldn't call this "love" from fans -- rather a weird form of voyeurism and a desire to "participate" in something so they can later make claims to have "been there".
I assume behind the scenes this man's life as a husband and father was far more important to his family than his life as a musician. He should have been buried as such. Whoever talked the widow into this circus (I doubt she's thinking clearly) should be ashamed of themselves.
The funeral itself was private, the public procession was a way to manage coverage to prevent the actual funeral service being disrupted by media or anyone else
I hope you're right. That display was appalling. I've seen footage of Presley's funeral and his fans were at least respectfully standing on the sidelines and not whooping and clapping.
I don't recall seeing any footage of Michael Jackson's funeral but somehow I can't imagine his fans acting like that either.
I'm pretty sure whatever public personna this man had was simply that -- his gimmick to stand out among a crowd of musicians to "make a buck". Not that I would deny him the opportunity to have done so (no matter how distasteful I might find biting bats to be). If it worked for him and brought him fame and fortune -- good for him. But I don't believe anyone should take that public personna seriously and feel they actually "knew" what this man was really like in his personal life.
I'm glad you said that they had a chance to bury the actual man and mourn him quietly by themselves.
Beloved musicians have a lot of people that care about them - many millions of fans, and hundreds or thousands of fellow musicians they've met and became friends with along the way.
Fans on the road of idolatry, imo.
Time to put one's Cotillion training to good use:
Funerals: it's best to go easy on the "shoulds". Since the deceased specifically and very publicly requested it be loud and not a "mope fest". Honoring Ozzy's wishes is the right thing to do, and a comfort to the family.
Recognizing love is an important skill. That man was LOVED. The crowd, the family, the band, the public, Pat Boone, myself, and I'm sure a good portion of this board loved him.
Ozzy was uniquely himself. He and his family did exactly what he and his family wanted. It was perfect. Not perfect for everyone, but perfect for Ozzy.
The idea of Sharron being "talked into" anything is to laugh.
I think your heart is in the right place, but a little skewed to an ideal that isn't part of the Osbornes' vision after all, remember the man requested his epitaph to read "Bats taste like shit!"
Depends on the situation. My mom loved tie dye and one of her last requests was that we all wear tie dye t shirts and jeans to her funeral. Hard to be too somber when you're dressed like that but we did it.
Lots of people exposing themselves as non Christians by being so concerned about a satanist's death.
I don't feel bad. It is now too late for Ozzy to repent. His soul was likely gone long ago burning in the fiery lake.