Attention drug users / relatives: DEA warns of deadly new synthetic opioid 25x stronger than Fentanyl: nitazene
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Unpopular opinion perhaps, but I feel that if all drugs were legal we wouldn't be in this situation. Anytime a drug is banned, a new stronger and more dangerous drug is created that takes it's place. We then ban that one, and the cycle continues.
Weed was banned (which harmed nobody), and it was replaced by that "spice" stuff that is incredibly harmful and CAN/WILL kill you.
People could no longer get Oxycodone, so they turned to heroin. When they couldn't get that, Fentanyl became a thing. Now we have zenes.
If LSD were accessible, would BromoDragonfly ever have been developed?
In my opinion, make all drugs legal, Make sure people are educated on how they work, what the proper dosages are, and the benefits/risks of using them. If someone wants to use them, provide access to CLEAN drugs through pharmacies, and tax them just like Alcohol/Cigarettes/weed. Make it such that they're only legal when used in a private residence/outside the public eye, so we don't get BS like what happens in Portland OR or Oakland CA.
The drug definitely gets more concentrated because it makes it easier to transport.
I don’t use marijuana, but IMO it wouldn’t be as nearly as potent as it is now if it hadn’t been made illegal.
Its less potent than ever now if done properly through vaping and extracts. The vapor is much less dense. Anyone whose smart would use these outdoors. Flower is "old technology" if you ask me. Over the years, I dont feel people will be smelling it like you think.
Weed varieties in Canada are way more potent now than they used to be because weed got legalized. They basically have scientists pumping out freak plants that are way more potent because there's a legit and legal industry supporting it instead of some rube growing plants in his moldy basement
Did Prohibition work out? Did those who imported liquor make millions? Making something illegal does not stop the behavior. Abortion comes to mind...
Prohibition created the Mob.
And... the Kennedy family...
Oregon decriminalized drug use.
Overdoses spiked 700%
The point is that people who are addicts will find and use drugs/alcohol, whether it's legal or not.
I hate to be devil's avocado here but this isn't a slam-dunk, because Portugal decriminalized drugs and it resulted in a massive reduction in OD deaths.. https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-portugal-setting-the-record-straight
I'd say the problem is an 'Oregon problem' rather than a drug problem. Whatever they're doing over there, it ain't workin
Correct. Moreover, it's a general ethics/morals issue unique to each person. As another anon mentioned in an above comment chain, there are many functional non criminal substance users.
Not everyone who uses a gun is a murderer, yet people are shot every day by a criminal with a gun.
What we are lacking as a society is a proper response to nonviolent criminal usage and those who can no longer care for themselves due to clinical addiction.
One possible solution is bringing back asylums. Of course there's so much reform to apply to the old base systems and plenty of opportunity for corruption, but potentially done to great success.
You don't want 'legal drugs', you want decriminalized possession. Meaning, if you get caught with MORE than a certain amount on you, they can hold you + charge you with trafficking.
That amount or less, and it's personal usage. Frees up the courts to not having to deal with drug users.
Caught using heavy drugs in public - rehab center for 24 or 48 hours instead of jailing them. At the treatment center they can get some food, a nice bed to sleep in, and be a safe place to "not be high" for a couple days. Might be the simple step a lot of them need to start getting off the shit.
I always used to think that decriminalization was better than legalization, but lately I've started to think full legalization is the way to go. The reason for my thinking is decriminalization does little to change/alter the supply side of things.
As long as drugs are illegal, cartels will control the supply, and bad/cut/unsafe product will flood the streets. Full legalization would allow the supply to be provided by registered, legal, safe businesses (pharmacies). This way if someone wants to buy a pill that contains 10mg of meth, it only contains 10mg of pure meth and nothing else.
The only issue then becomes, how do you regulate the industry, and how do you tax it/price the product? On one hand, the more restrictions and the higher the prices, the more likely people are to turn to a black market negating the benefits of legalization. However the opposite is also an issue, increase the ease of access by pricing too low and not having any restrictions on how much one can buy, and you may flood society with drugs even worse than we have now.
You need them to be cheap enough that everyone who wants drugs turns to legit sources instead of purchasing product from the black market, thus killing the cartels by taking away their market, but expensive enough that everyone doesn't just sit around doing drugs all day.
There will still be black markets because there will be limits on how much of a drug you can get at a pharmacy, just like currenty in states with legal cannabis. Problem is that Meth and Heroin are extremely addictive. 100x more so than cannabis. Then it completely rots the brain. It doesn't matter if you are doing it in your home. You won't have one anymore after a few months. It turns adults into 5 year olds. Legalizing it would do massive damage. The stigma of it being illegal is what keeps most people from trying it, for a good reason.
Should there be a facilty or place you can go with friends or self to try drugs in a safe setting? Maybe. I feel that even one hit of meth or Heroin is too much and can lead to one more time which makes them almost immediately addicted after that and their life is almost always ruined from there. Some drugs like Shrooms, lsd, molly, ext may be actually good of humanity if done in a proper controlled setting doing what the drug is meant for. Some drugs can really have a positive experience on people if done in a good setting, like DMT. But it has to only be once in like a year or longer atleast for that kind of thing. There needs to be many more studies on how psychological drugs and feeling drugs like percocet can help humans if used properly. But there will always be black markets and cartels unfortunately. We need law enforcement to take out gangs and reduce the supply. Lack of supply and sources is the key to reducing drug usage. If you cant find it, you can't do it. For young kids dealing drugs and addicted to them, they should be put in camps In farms and mountains that teach discipline and work habits. Not put in prison so they can find a gang to join. Happened to a kid I grew up with. Prison ruined his life I feel. He would have been far better off going to a camp and learning to be a man.
I am pro cannabis legalization on a recreational level. I feel it doesn't have the same detrimental affects. Has health and medicinal purposes. Nor it addictive like other drugs. People do need another legal vice other than alcohol which is much worse on every level really. Cannabis also offsets alcohol and arent necessarily good together. Many like one or the other. I dont feel every drug should be legal and easily accessible but I see cannabis as a vice that is safe for recreational and medicinal purposes.
I definitely understand how some of these drugs can be pretty addictive. I'm not one to shy away from, nor try to hide the fact that I've done a fair amount of drugs, at least more than the average person. Out of all of them, Meth is probably the only one I actually regret doing, I probably took it daily for a month and a half before learning firsthand exactly how addictive it is, and got out because I 100% knew what would happen if I continued down that path. I'm no longer bothered by it, but for the first 2 weeks after quitting I definitely wanted it, bad, and it definitely wasn't easy stopping. However, it was a choice, deciding to try it in the first place, continuing to do it daily after I tried it, and stopping was a choice as well. A personal choice, one I made, not one that I needed the government, or someone else outside of me, to make for me.
Psychedelics I feel are a net positive, I've done shrooms/lsd/dmt and probably at least 10x other lesser known psychedelics, and it's always been a positive/beneficial experience. It wasn't always fun, but I feel like I'm consistently a better person each and every time I do a psychedelic, but then again I tend to use them for self reflection/discovery, rather than some who will take them to party. That being said, whether you use one to analyze yourself and break yourself out of negative thought patterns, vs take a tab of lsd to party, is up to the individual taking it (a personal choice). They're like tools, can be used for improvement, or misused can cause harm. We're free individuals and it's up to the individual whether they are going to use the tools accessible to them appropriately, or misuse them. We all should have access to cars as they can be a useful tool, even though cars when misused can cause great injury to oneself and others.
I am definitely pro Cannabis legalization as well, however, Cannabis is just as much a drug as any other. It definitely is not as addictive as Meth, but it's definitely still addictive. You can argue that Meth is one of the most addictive, but I don't touch it anymore, yet I still have a joint almost daily. I contemplate not smoking, and I think about while puffing a joint. I'm sure if I wanted to stop I could, but it's not harmful, nor addictive like other drugs, so why would I, right? We minimize it and tell ourselves what we need to hear, so we can keep using the drugs we like without feeling bad about it. Even caffeine is a a drug. I tried to quit it once and had an awful week, I was tired, had headaches, felt like crap, and was very unproductive. It was almost as difficult as quitting the Meth! You would probably call me crazy saying that, but it's the truth! It wasn't that caffeine is anywhere near as physically/mentally addictive (it isn't), but it's so normalized and it's in everything. You start your day with your coffee, maybe have a soda at dinner, maybe drink tea throughout the day, etc. It just happens and most don't even think about it. I'm drinking a coffee even as I write this.
I just feel that attempting to restrict people from doing drugs will never work, the only way forward is actually educating people on their effects, benefits vs risks, and attempt to treat the "desire" to do drugs rather than the actual act of doing drugs itself. Back when I was in school we were told that all drugs are bad, and was told that Weed was just as bad as Meth! If we were properly educated on exactly how each drug works and what it does, perhaps I wouldn't have decided to do it.
Sorry, this was long, it's just something I feel fairly strongly about. I do understand where you're coming from and I'm not saying you're wrong, this is just how I feel about it
Stop with the common sense, when the only entity that should decide what each individual American adult puts into their own body, The Government, is clearly winning the drug war
But Canada legalized drugs and they are having a HUGE problem with the consequences of that