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BREAKING: USA just closed off the airspace near Puerto Rico with a NOTAM announcing hot pit refueling at the local airport. Hot pit refuelling means aircraft are refuelled with their engines still running so they can take off quickly again. Long night ahead for Maduro… (media.scored.co) 🚀 PRECIPICE 🚀
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– Trump4evergirl 11 points 216 days ago +11 / -0

I think this has to do with Trump freeing the Maduro regime from the cartels. Maduro is working with the white hats in order to save Venezuela is my guess. Otherwise, the white hats wouldn’t have let him in as el Presidente or whatever they call him. He has to be convincing that he’s fighting against the US, or else he’s cooked. Just a guess.

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– en_folkefiende 10 points 216 days ago +10 / -0

Yup. And that's not America's responsibility. If Venezuelans want a regime change, let them. We could even help them. But fighting and dying for their cause when we've got so many domestic problems yet unresolved? No way.

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– HeartofStone2 6 points 216 days ago +6 / -0

Except they invaded us with illegals and Tren de Aragua.

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– SorosOrMuskPickOne 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

We already have CIA in Venezuela now. The last time we did created Tren de Aragua.

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– QDay 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

Define invasion. If you Government paid people, flew them in, and put them up in hotels and gave them money to be here... then is it their government that is the one invading?

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– AngelCole 4 points 216 days ago +4 / -0

72-hour rule. It's best to hold your thoughts for that long as the situation tends to change after that time. No sense in getting all upset when we don't have specifics. We're not sending anyone in to die either.

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– mac1221 1 point 216 days ago +1 / -0

Moves and countermoves. Especially with Trump. Nothing is at it appears to be on the surface.

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– en_folkefiende 1 point 214 days ago +1 / -0

Thanks for that. I love the 72-hour-rule, but I don't always remember to apply it.

Not upset, so much as I'm just asking the question. What's really going on.

Maybe I need to replace Hunter Biden on my Bingo card w/ Maduro.,,

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– ILoveIvermectin 4 points 216 days ago +4 / -0

Didn’t America train and fund these cartels during the Ollie North drug war operations? This is why they are so militarized ? Asking seriously. I could be wrong. The cia is heavily involved.

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– mac1221 3 points 216 days ago +3 / -0

You are right. Those were all DS black operations - mostly by the C_A. So who exactly is Trump taking on here?

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– Merkava_4 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

I still can't understand why Trump doesn't dismantle the CIA.

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– ILoveIvermectin 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

It’s happening right in front of us. The media.

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– mac1221 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

Trump is up against something much larger than just Venezuela and Maduro. They are a base of operations for extensive transnational criminal networks and they have been targeting the US. He is sending a huge message to the DS that there is a new sheriff in town and he has their number. FAFO.

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– en_folkefiende 2 points 214 days ago +2 / -0

Hope you're right, Mac. I'm willing to wait it out w/ you all and see.

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– mac1221 2 points 213 days ago +2 / -0

Yes. This drama is far bigger than what it appears to be on the surface. It is a huge global chessboard with many players all jockeying for control of the board. Moves and countermoves. Besides the cartels, Iran and the CCP are heavily imbedded in Venezuela. Russia also has presence there. Way too damn close to continue allowing the systematic takeover of Latin America. Trump is pushing back saying ENOUGH and Trump has chosen Venezuela to make that stand with a huge show of force.

We can probably get an indication of which way the wind is blowing by watching what these other actors do. They just may end up abandoning Maduro and shift their resources and attention somewhere else. It's not like they don't have other places in Latin America where they can establish a beachhead.

The US for years has buried its head in the sand and ignored what has been taking place throughout the area. Think Panama. The US sat back while the CCP basically took control of the Canal along with other strategic choke points. It's not like China doesn't have a history of using these points as a weapon in order to get the US or other countries to knuckle under and capitulate. That has been part of their soft power strategy of global domination for years. Trump is trying to correct that. The CCP interfered with the deal that would have handed control of several ports, not just the Canal. I am not sure where the deal being made with CK Hutchison Holdings Limited stands for the moment. But from what I can see, at least where the Panama Canal is concerned, we will have to focus on pressuring the Panamanian government to use other legal means to get control back, which was a card on the table but in reserve if plan A didn't work. It will force Panama to get off the fence and choose a side - something we have been reluctant to do. China is heavily invested in Panama through BRI so there are huge financial and infrastructure considerations that the US has to be ready to step up and fill the gap if China is pushed out - something the US did not want to do.

So we will wait and see what happens in the future. Sadly we live in a globally connected world. The days of being able to exist isolated from things taking place around us are long gone. Nothing exists in a vacuum. If the US does not get involved, someone else will and they are.

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– Merkava_4 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

The Deep State is getting their money from somewhere . . .

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– mac1221 1 point 214 days ago +1 / -0

Exactly.

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– Merkava_4 4 points 216 days ago +4 / -0

"Maduro is working with the white hats"

I don't think so.

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– mac1221 3 points 216 days ago +3 / -0

Make no mistake. Maduro is a rabid Communist and a dictator thug. The entire regime is in bed with the cartels, transnational money laundering (China), and the trafficking of human misery. Many of their partners are other Communists and terrorists that have gained foothold in Latin America and they all target the US. So Trump is trying to destroy that regime, not save it. He is the only one that has balls big enough to attempt dismantling the threat. Other administrations have simply let it grow and did nothing. Probably because they also received proceeds and benefits from allowing it to fester - think election interference and campaign contributions.

A great deal of the proceeds from these networks pays for black operations around the world and here in the US (DS C_A). Obviously Trump has identified Maduro and his network as a main hub for many of those operations that are an existential threat to the US. Cut off the head of the beast and some of the downstream activity will be curtailed if not outright dismantled.

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– Trump4evergirl 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

I’m sure Maduro is a cutthroat s.o.b. I just think it’s above Maduro. Either way, the regime is going down. I’m thinking that Maduro was approached and told what was going to happen. He could either play along- or wind up with a Colombian necktie courtesy of his current bosses. I could be wrong. I just see weak attempts at answering back to our current modus operandi. F14s using old school radar from the 80s and 90s and like munitions aren't going to cut it in any confrontation. Maduro knows it. We know it. The cartels know it. Many of these terrorists may just turn over on their bosses if given a way out. Just spitballing here. I assume this-whatever is really going on we aren’t privy to. Watching the movie. Waiting for the credits to roll…

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– mac1221 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

I think you are right on the money. We don't need direct military intervention to make our point or to affect change. Just the threat of it is enough to lead to action on the other end. Trump has used this strategic ambiguity more than once. He does this on purpose - and it works.

You're right. We are fully capable of engagement and winning and they know it. They saw what we did to Iran in one move. Getting those thugs to turn on each other and start throwing themselves under the bus I think is a very distinct possibility. I too have heard the rumblings of possible overthrow. Trump will simply monitor the situation to make sure it doesn't cause an even bigger problem because of any destabilization that spirals. You are also right in that this is way bigger than just Madero. The people behind him are simply pulling his strings.

I think this also is to send a message to the CCP. Your days of infiltrating our backyard while the US did nothing are over. Especially now when the CCP regime is in a weakened state themselves. Trump knows exactly what is happening in China and their global proxies. The CCP is crashing and the Party is desperately trying to save themselves and their regime. Trump knows right where to hit them. The CCP doesn't know how to read Trump. That drives them crazy because they don't know how to plan for his ambiguity. A communist regime has to have plans. They have a difficult time adapting to chaos and uncertainly - exactly how Trump operates and where America shines. One flight restriction and people lose their minds.

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– Trump4evergirl 2 points 216 days ago +2 / -0

I like your deeper look with the China perspective. I still am of the mind that Xi is working with Trump to overthrow the CCP. You made me wonder if the CCP has puppeteers or is the CCP really the top of the chain for China? Do they have a deep state?? That’s a deep thought I’m going to have to think about. What do you think?

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– propertyofUniverse 3 points 216 days ago +3 / -0

That's how I read it.

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