I looked through their various pages and tabs and cannot find even a hint of how their system works. They use all the buzz words (sustainable, independent, etc.) and, sadly, a reference to "fossil fuels," but not one scintilla or general statement as to how it works. I know they have to protect patents and proprietary information, but c'mon, without knowing how the thing works, it's just a "magic box" mystery that they are asking people to buy into without full knowledge of what they're getting.
The old adage about "buying a pig in a poke" comes to mind. Before I would lay down $30K on a pig in a poke, I would at LEAST want to know what its operating principle is.
This company/product is legit. I've been following them for many years waiting to see how far they can get with commercialization, and I'm surprised they have made it to pre-orders.
The photo of the torus coil gives away a key fundamental part of the design.
You're not going to get details about the operating principle which would convince you of anything. This tech uses the same operating principles as hundreds of devices that exist, but since it relies on physics phenomenon that is excluded from mainstream models, it makes no sense to anyone who doesn't already understand the suppressed physics. See this post I made a few months ago to understand better: A comprehensive look at how and why Energy Technologies have been and will continue to be suppressed
That's just plain silly. Consider reading the post I linked above to get some real perspective on where I'm coming from.
And to be clear: I'm not encouraging anyone to buy anything. It's unlikely it'll even be allowed to reach production. I'm simply shining a light on a legitimate commercial product in this area so that everyone can follow along and see how it end up getting sabotaged or shut down.
General idea of how it works: All electricity is actually free from the environment, it's just that conventional tech is designed to destroy it as fast as it gets used so that it fits into the closed system models which the law of conservation relies on. This kind of tech is not a conventional closed circuit but an open system that harvests energy from the environment without destroying it in the process.
Thanks... sounds counterintuitive, but then I was raised and educated in the classical sense of the Conservation of Energy principles. I may have some adjusting to do to fully appreciate this new approach. I will spend some time with it, and perhaps share with a couple of engineers I know... but they too were trained in classical physics and engineering, so I don't know how they will respond.
You have some idea of how those classically trained engineers will respond based on your own reaction to hearing this, and will have a much better idea once you get through my post that I linked.
You have to start very slowly and put in serious effort to have any hope of getting anywhere, since only once you've been able to shift your mindset to the point where you are completely convinced there's more to physics than what can be explained by the orthodox models, can you start gaining any real knowledge. You need to create a bridge in your mind into these unconventional areas of research to open the gates, and that bridge doesn't even have to necessarily be related to electromagnetism, it just needs to something that open the door. The anomaly experiment I shared in the linked post may be a good first step in the right direction.
So I did hear back from one of my engineer friends, a man who is retired now but who worked in optics and mechanical engineering in the past. Here is his response verbatim:
I looked at the website and glanced at the material you included.
The website says nothing of substance other than "send money".
I have only studied quantum physics a bit, so other than knowing some buzzwords, I cannot speak to real energy from nothing. My education has hardwired me to not even entertain such a notion. Maybe there is some truth that physics progresses one funeral at a time.
Maybe there is a suppression effort afoot, but my impression is that it is more hype than anything.
Given that huge amounts have been spent on developing fusion, a project that was 20 years away, and always will be, and would, if implemented, be a limitless source of power, I think that Energy Freedom (TM) is just a fancy website. If they had something, they would be trying to sell it to Wall Street, not on the web.
That is the kind of response that I'd expect from any orthodox engineer, as was covered in my comprehensive post on the subject. Not sure if you have got through that post yet, but it provides much needed perspective on everything.
Your friend is actually a little more open minded than most when he said "Maybe there is some truth that physics progresses one funeral at a time", but that's just one of many huge roadblocks that prevent this getting out to the masses.
That company clearly isn't trying to convince anyone with their site, which is smart of them, since it's impossible to convince a skeptic that such tech exists on the internet and any effort made would be pointless.
Their initial customers would have to be people who are already in the know, and I suppose they'd have to do some kind of demos eventually to extend their reach, but seems unlikely that they'd be allowed to get that far into production.
This post was sadly removed before most anons could see it, but hopefully some of those who did follow the companies progress, since it'll be interesting to see how energy industry and world order tries to stop them when they've already got this close to commercial production.
10 years of R&D and commercial production costs a lot money. Technology has to be mass produced to bring down production costs, and what are the odds of them being allowed to do that? Not many people have ever even got this close to commercial production without being stopped.
Even if you did your own development and built your own system from scrap parts, it would still cost you a lot in time and bench equipment.
Each person has to decide for themselves what a lifetime of energy independence is worth to them.
The free part comes after you participate in the project. Reciprocity and gratitude play a big part in one's willingness to receive the goodness that literally always has been here for us.
I don’t have a house and no money so even if I have it, $30,000 is a lot of money plus people like me can make that kind of money in a year. Energy supposed to be free, now you guys are telling me it is not free? We talked about this in the past.
How will they be stopped before reaching production?
Breaking News:
Judge Boasberg has just granted an injunction against ISA - Quantum Energy, issued on behalf of fossil fuel producers. The energy industry is simply unwilling to lose money transitioning to clean energy, even if it may be the most ethical thing to do.
About 274 years to break even. I have two mutual connections that are both engineers, so I’m not quick to dismiss. I was working with some folks for a safe 5kw system. We could never get the traction with the Navy. I think Boeing saw it as a threat to their Seal Delivery Vehicle.
You mean consumers would take 274 years to break even on a 10kw system at this price point? That seems very far off.
If a residential US home is charged ~17.62c/kWh, using 10kW 24/7 would cost over $15k per year, so you'd break even after only ~2 years. More like 3 years in Idaho @ 11.52c/kWh, or in Hawaii @ 42.86c/kWh you'd break even in under a year. That's also excluding fixed fees, never mind other costs getting power out to the middle of nowhere if you wanted to go off grid.
Not surprised to hear your story about the Navy. The classified programs where this kind of technology could get traction have already used the tech for decades.
Oops it is 18 years. I was thinking of the old days of 2kwh per day. Now it’s 30kwh per day. And I used 15 cents per kilowatt hour (AZ, where the company is).
Most of Tesla's patents are public and the fundamentals for this kind of tech is right in plain sight. It's just that almost everyone has been conditioned to be incapable of seeing it.
The torus windings in that photo appears to be based on a Rodin coil, which is what I'd expect to see used for advanced development of this tech.
There's been some discussion of "mini nuclear generators" that would bolster and supplement existing infrastructure to address the whole "we need a lot of powers for AI" thing we've been hearing about recently.
It's nuclear, but not the same tech as 3 mile island and conventional power plants. It's supposed to be much safer and less maintenance required.
They're around the size of a 100 gal propane tank and would power 250 homes. This would sidestep a TON of infrastructure like wires needed to go long distances from a substation, the substation itself and a bunch of other things.
Let's not forget how Trump mentioned greatly reducing the permit and regulations required for these tech companies who'd be able to erect their own nuclear power plant on-site...
Sounds like a step in the right direction for everyone... but don't underestimate the power of phuckery to screw us even harder... it's STILL metered power and a LONG list of surcharges on your bill that keeps growing... yanno like LED lights, windmills and all the other things they promised would drop our bills... but all it did was drop our pants while they rammed those $750/mo bills up our keesters...
Are you seriously telling me that big news about the most heavily suppressed kind of technology going commercial in the US is considered off topic?
That is very surprising, given the long history of extreme interest in the subject matter by most anons here, including some of the GA mods. I even cleared my previous post on this subject with mods before spending hours writing it.
I won't make the mistake of wasting my time sharing valuable information here in future if it's just going to be censored. Really disappointing to see what this place has become.
I looked through their various pages and tabs and cannot find even a hint of how their system works. They use all the buzz words (sustainable, independent, etc.) and, sadly, a reference to "fossil fuels," but not one scintilla or general statement as to how it works. I know they have to protect patents and proprietary information, but c'mon, without knowing how the thing works, it's just a "magic box" mystery that they are asking people to buy into without full knowledge of what they're getting.
The old adage about "buying a pig in a poke" comes to mind. Before I would lay down $30K on a pig in a poke, I would at LEAST want to know what its operating principle is.
This company/product is legit. I've been following them for many years waiting to see how far they can get with commercialization, and I'm surprised they have made it to pre-orders.
The photo of the torus coil gives away a key fundamental part of the design.
You're not going to get details about the operating principle which would convince you of anything. This tech uses the same operating principles as hundreds of devices that exist, but since it relies on physics phenomenon that is excluded from mainstream models, it makes no sense to anyone who doesn't already understand the suppressed physics. See this post I made a few months ago to understand better: A comprehensive look at how and why Energy Technologies have been and will continue to be suppressed
the more i read thru your replies here the more i am inclined to believe you either work for this company or have direct affiliation with this company
That's just plain silly. Consider reading the post I linked above to get some real perspective on where I'm coming from.
And to be clear: I'm not encouraging anyone to buy anything. It's unlikely it'll even be allowed to reach production. I'm simply shining a light on a legitimate commercial product in this area so that everyone can follow along and see how it end up getting sabotaged or shut down.
that didnt change my mind
Thanks, but the link refers me back to this GAW site, not what you intended to show.
But anyway, I'm not seeking a full explanation of their technology, simply a general idea of how it works... IF it works at all.
General idea of how it works: All electricity is actually free from the environment, it's just that conventional tech is designed to destroy it as fast as it gets used so that it fits into the closed system models which the law of conservation relies on. This kind of tech is not a conventional closed circuit but an open system that harvests energy from the environment without destroying it in the process.
Thanks... sounds counterintuitive, but then I was raised and educated in the classical sense of the Conservation of Energy principles. I may have some adjusting to do to fully appreciate this new approach. I will spend some time with it, and perhaps share with a couple of engineers I know... but they too were trained in classical physics and engineering, so I don't know how they will respond.
You have some idea of how those classically trained engineers will respond based on your own reaction to hearing this, and will have a much better idea once you get through my post that I linked.
You have to start very slowly and put in serious effort to have any hope of getting anywhere, since only once you've been able to shift your mindset to the point where you are completely convinced there's more to physics than what can be explained by the orthodox models, can you start gaining any real knowledge. You need to create a bridge in your mind into these unconventional areas of research to open the gates, and that bridge doesn't even have to necessarily be related to electromagnetism, it just needs to something that open the door. The anomaly experiment I shared in the linked post may be a good first step in the right direction.
I will try my best to get back to you on this. Thanks for taking the time and effort to send your response.
So I did hear back from one of my engineer friends, a man who is retired now but who worked in optics and mechanical engineering in the past. Here is his response verbatim:
I looked at the website and glanced at the material you included.
The website says nothing of substance other than "send money".
I have only studied quantum physics a bit, so other than knowing some buzzwords, I cannot speak to real energy from nothing. My education has hardwired me to not even entertain such a notion. Maybe there is some truth that physics progresses one funeral at a time.
Maybe there is a suppression effort afoot, but my impression is that it is more hype than anything.
Given that huge amounts have been spent on developing fusion, a project that was 20 years away, and always will be, and would, if implemented, be a limitless source of power, I think that Energy Freedom (TM) is just a fancy website. If they had something, they would be trying to sell it to Wall Street, not on the web.
That is the kind of response that I'd expect from any orthodox engineer, as was covered in my comprehensive post on the subject. Not sure if you have got through that post yet, but it provides much needed perspective on everything.
Your friend is actually a little more open minded than most when he said "Maybe there is some truth that physics progresses one funeral at a time", but that's just one of many huge roadblocks that prevent this getting out to the masses.
That company clearly isn't trying to convince anyone with their site, which is smart of them, since it's impossible to convince a skeptic that such tech exists on the internet and any effort made would be pointless.
Their initial customers would have to be people who are already in the know, and I suppose they'd have to do some kind of demos eventually to extend their reach, but seems unlikely that they'd be allowed to get that far into production.
This post was sadly removed before most anons could see it, but hopefully some of those who did follow the companies progress, since it'll be interesting to see how energy industry and world order tries to stop them when they've already got this close to commercial production.
I fixed the link. Seems short c/ links no longer work on this site?
Yes, the link seems to be fixed now. I will spend some time with it to digest its contents. Thanks, anon.
Without even reading just glancing at the design something says 'Yes' it issss possible.
I still cannot find any info on this magical free energy machine listed in OPs post.
The link to that shoddy 9v battery "trick" I wrote off when it was first posted as nonsense.
Anyone have any info on wtf the toroid thing above even does?
I'm not buying it until I see some evidence and breakdown of what the fuck it's actually doing to create energy
Source: "trust me bro, oh and you wouldn't understand anyway so nobody conveniently has to prove anything."
This reminds me of the quantum financial system “QFS” push on Telegram.
“Pay us $thousands and we’ll give you $thousands more”
Verrrryy psyop-y, but I’m not rolling in money, so I can’t toss $thousands out just to find out if those QFS accounts are real/part of the plan
$30,000 does not sound free.
10 years of R&D and commercial production costs a lot money. Technology has to be mass produced to bring down production costs, and what are the odds of them being allowed to do that? Not many people have ever even got this close to commercial production without being stopped.
Even if you did your own development and built your own system from scrap parts, it would still cost you a lot in time and bench equipment.
Each person has to decide for themselves what a lifetime of energy independence is worth to them.
what does this have to do with q or q research?
The free part comes after you participate in the project. Reciprocity and gratitude play a big part in one's willingness to receive the goodness that literally always has been here for us.
I don’t have a house and no money so even if I have it, $30,000 is a lot of money plus people like me can make that kind of money in a year. Energy supposed to be free, now you guys are telling me it is not free? We talked about this in the past.
Bring it down to Harbor Freight prices then we'll talk about mass use of this.
Breaking News:
Judge Boasberg has just granted an injunction against ISA - Quantum Energy, issued on behalf of fossil fuel producers. The energy industry is simply unwilling to lose money transitioning to clean energy, even if it may be the most ethical thing to do.
About 274 years to break even. I have two mutual connections that are both engineers, so I’m not quick to dismiss. I was working with some folks for a safe 5kw system. We could never get the traction with the Navy. I think Boeing saw it as a threat to their Seal Delivery Vehicle.
You mean consumers would take 274 years to break even on a 10kw system at this price point? That seems very far off.
If a residential US home is charged ~17.62c/kWh, using 10kW 24/7 would cost over $15k per year, so you'd break even after only ~2 years. More like 3 years in Idaho @ 11.52c/kWh, or in Hawaii @ 42.86c/kWh you'd break even in under a year. That's also excluding fixed fees, never mind other costs getting power out to the middle of nowhere if you wanted to go off grid.
Not surprised to hear your story about the Navy. The classified programs where this kind of technology could get traction have already used the tech for decades.
Oops it is 18 years. I was thinking of the old days of 2kwh per day. Now it’s 30kwh per day. And I used 15 cents per kilowatt hour (AZ, where the company is).
Residential homes that only need 30kWh per day could run some bitcoin miners to use most of the extra unused 210kWh/day to pay it off much faster.
Interesting thought.
Free energy? Nope
Release the Tesla patents. Notice that it's shape is a torus? :)
Most of Tesla's patents are public and the fundamentals for this kind of tech is right in plain sight. It's just that almost everyone has been conditioned to be incapable of seeing it.
The torus windings in that photo appears to be based on a Rodin coil, which is what I'd expect to see used for advanced development of this tech.
If you have $30,000 to burn, I guess it’s a good idea.
There's been some discussion of "mini nuclear generators" that would bolster and supplement existing infrastructure to address the whole "we need a lot of powers for AI" thing we've been hearing about recently.
It's nuclear, but not the same tech as 3 mile island and conventional power plants. It's supposed to be much safer and less maintenance required.
They're around the size of a 100 gal propane tank and would power 250 homes. This would sidestep a TON of infrastructure like wires needed to go long distances from a substation, the substation itself and a bunch of other things.
Let's not forget how Trump mentioned greatly reducing the permit and regulations required for these tech companies who'd be able to erect their own nuclear power plant on-site...
Sounds like a step in the right direction for everyone... but don't underestimate the power of phuckery to screw us even harder... it's STILL metered power and a LONG list of surcharges on your bill that keeps growing... yanno like LED lights, windmills and all the other things they promised would drop our bills... but all it did was drop our pants while they rammed those $750/mo bills up our keesters...
"We'll see...", right Dad?
Please stay on topic
Are you seriously telling me that big news about the most heavily suppressed kind of technology going commercial in the US is considered off topic?
That is very surprising, given the long history of extreme interest in the subject matter by most anons here, including some of the GA mods. I even cleared my previous post on this subject with mods before spending hours writing it.
I won't make the mistake of wasting my time sharing valuable information here in future if it's just going to be censored. Really disappointing to see what this place has become.
kek, you have only ever posted twice.
Rules is rules.
What I don't understand is why they'd put a cemetery in the front lawn.
That's just weird.
I reserve my favorite comment from grad school...
"Now, Prove mathematically, that your theory works. "
I want to pull the patent that they claim to have.
I’m embarrassed to say I clicked on the link. Nice looking website! It harnesses the power of butterfly dreams.
I want to see a working prototype.