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@SecRollins drops multiple BOMBSHELLS: -SNAP is going to make EVERY recipient reapply to verify "they can't survive without it". -Benefits are being paid to nearly 200,000 dead people. -Half a MILLION recipients are double-dipping." (twitter.com)
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– purkiss80 [S] 8 points 204 days ago +8 / -0

"This is just data from 29 mostly red states. Can you imagine when we get our hands on the blue state data, what we’re going to find?”

https://nitter.net/BreitbartNews/status/1989335374980616511

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– Richone 6 points 204 days ago +6 / -0

Secretary Rollins should advise blue states that complete lists are required to receive benefits. No lists equals benefits shut off until they comply. Sue them if necessary. Fraud is a very good reason for this.

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– 22LIBERTY22 2 points 204 days ago +2 / -0

Shut everything down and reapply for benefits in person. Start over.

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– Ratrod63 5 points 204 days ago +5 / -0

Maybe that's why they're all fat

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– DragonPepe 2 points 204 days ago +2 / -0

Unfortunately, it's the cheap shitty food causing weight gain. Healthy food is way more expensive than cheaper junk food. And healthy food doesnt last long in the fridge.

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– makemyday007 4 points 204 days ago +4 / -0

But you can eat very inexpensively with healthy food. Beans, rice, eggs, carrots, apples all last a long time in the fridge. Some of these people are just too lazy to cook real food. I feel sorry for their children who are stuck eating all these processed foods because the parents are too ignorant of what proper nutrition is.

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– Hckyhillbilly 4 points 204 days ago +4 / -0

No food lasts long around this bunch, but your point is well taken. It does take a reasonable amount of effort to eat healthier. I cut out all prepackaged garbage about 9 months ago. The results are good, but there is a lot more time spent preparing meals. These snappers are typically too lazy for that kind of effort. Plus, they have a busy schedule. Those nails take time.

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– HeShallTreadAlone 1 point 203 days ago +1 / -0

Kek i always wonder what's under the greasy black bonnets they all wear now.

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– Ratrod63 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

True, but they get quantity too. I've heard of $2000 a month . Hell, I can't afford that but these SNAP whores can

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– Archon69 5 points 204 days ago +5 / -0

If you can't show up to a neighborhood welfare office to give proof of life.....

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– makemyday007 4 points 204 days ago +4 / -0

Make a program where you start doing home visits. If these people have salon nails and expensive hair extensions take away their benefits. I’m tired of my taxes going to fund this corruption.

It would be hilarious to have neighbors rat each other out for cash. Lol I’m kidding on that last part, but I would totally watch it if it was a reality tv show.

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

That is actually a good idea.

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– AZTrumpette1776 3 points 204 days ago +3 / -0

I think that a better process would be to hire a ton of quality control reviewers at the federal level and have them go in and audit the cases. Currently the states have a quality control review unit that reports their findings to the feds. With the hr1 bill requiring states with over a 6% error rate to pay increasingly higher portions of their EBT issuance. If the feds are the ones doing the audits then there isn't going to be any option for states to potentially play games with quality control. When states have a 20% error rate then they'll start to get serious about the fraud or the state will have to shut down their SNAP program. Currently people have to apply for benefits, get an interview, and then verify factors of their circumstances such as their income, their expenses, their household members, and the households income if they're mandatory to be in the case. Having them all come in at once is only going to overwhelm the system and states are going to look for ways to process those applications more rapidly.

During covid some states eliminated the interview process. Person would apply and provide verification of what they stated on the application then the case would be determined as either approved or denied based on that verification. But after covid all interviews were reinstated. That doesn't mean that someone won't sit across from you and lie straight to your face. The eligibility interviewers can ask questions and they can ask for verification of what they're being told but they can't go out to the person's house and confirm what they're saying. That's why the quality reviewers who are able to go do those things and to root out the fraud would be a better option

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 204 days ago +2 / -0

Sorry to have to tell you this, but in PA, we are discouraged from asking anyone to verify anything. If you do, well, we're told we are wasting our time and causing a burden to the "customer".

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– AZTrumpette1776 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

In AZ the state no longer takes Client Statement for verification because if the error rate is over 6% the state cannot afford to fund the 10%+ required in the HR1 bill.

But are you telling me that Pennsylvania will just take your client statement for income they're not requiring any verification?

Edit: I reviewed PA policy handbook myself and it does appear that either documented verification must be provided or a collateral contact.

http://services.dpw.state.pa.us/oimpolicymanuals/snap/index.htm#t=578_Verification_Requirements%2F578_2_Household_Responsibility.htm

Also from the handbook:

Every household is required, as a condition of eligibility, to prove certain information about its circumstances.

Sources of verification include the following:

Written evidence

Collateral contacts

Home visits

Automated sources

Appendix A: Verification Information Generally Available from the Client

-Non-citizen Status USCIS forms and documents (see Chapter 522, Appendix A)

A court order stating that deportation has been withheld pursuant to Section 243(h) of the Immigration and Nationality Act

USCIS documents such as a letter, notice of eligibility, or identification card which shows that the non-citizen has been admitted under one of the eligible sections

-Citizenship Naturalization papers Hospital birth record Baptismal record when place and date of birth is shown Birth certificate U.S. passport Family bible Military documents Voter registration card

-Dependent Care Canceled checks Tax records Paid receipts Statement from dependent care provider

-Disability Pension award notice Doctor’s statement Railroad Retirement board notice or letter Military documents VA award notice SSI award notice SSA notice or letter Workers' compensation (WC) award letter

-Earned Income Pay stub W-2 Income tax return Income-producing contract Pay envelope Wage tax receipts Self-employment bookkeeping records Statement from the individual, agency or company providing income

Leave and Earnings Statement (civilian, National Guard, active and retired military and reserves may access and print verification of income by going to myPay link at www.dfas.mil.)

-Identity Employment photo ID Driver’s license Pay stub Birth certificate Voter registration card Library card Financial institution statement U.S. passport

-Medical Expenses Billing statement Medicare Part B card Medicine with costs on label Repayment agreement with physician or hospital Bill for visiting nurse, homemaker, home health aide Receipt for food or veterinarian services for a seeing-eye, hearing, or other service animal Itemized receipt Health insurance premium Pharmacy statement Doctor’s statement verifying over-the counter drug prescribed Lodging or transportation receipt from obtaining medical treatment or services Bill or receipt for medical equipment and supplies

-Residency Voters registration card Rent or mortgage receipts that show the address Fire insurance policy School registration Employer’s statement Telephone directory Letter from HUD Certificate for subsidized housing Pension or VA award notice Library card with address Utility bill Mail received at address Real estate tax receipt or assessment Driver’s license Statement from nonrelative landlord Financial institution statement SSA, SSI, or UC award letter Income tax return

-Resources Bank book Bond certificate Securities certificate Check for lump sum payment Mortgage Sales agreement Articles of agreement Will Burial-arrangement contract Stock certificate Notes Financial institution statement Deed Real estate tax receipt Life estate agreement Income tax return Life insurance policy Insurance appraisal

-Shelter Expenses Rent or mortgage receipt Statement from an individual sharing shelter costs Fire insurance bill or receipt Receipt for campground fee Statement from HUD Lease agreement Real estate tax receipt or statement Receipt for firewood Correspondence with taxes and mortgage payment shown

-Social Security Number Pay stub Financial institution statement Social Security card Cash assistance record Income tax return

NOTE: The above documents contain the SSN, but the SSN can be verified only through the Social Security Administration.

-Unearned Income SSA award letter Workers' Compensation award letter VA award letter Railroad Retirement award letter Court order Correspondence on benefits Correspondence on support payment SSI award letter Unemployment Compensation (UC) award letter Exhaustion of UC Benefit Letter (Department of Labor and Industry Form UC-50) Pension award notice Benefit payment check Divorce or separation decree Income tax statement Support agreement (The CAO must check PACSES even if applicant/recipient states support is voluntary) Rental agreement Form 1099 for interest

NOTE: Individuals may get proof of SSA and SSI benefits online by creating an account with the Social Security Administration. Individuals may create an account by visiting www.ssa.gov/myaccount. The CAO may provide the following information to applicants and recipients about accessing information:

Important Information: Changes In Certain Services

The Fastest Way To Verify Social Security And Supplemental Security Income Benefits

How To Create An Online Account

-Utility Expenses Utility bill Correspondence from utility company Cancelled checks for utilities Statement or receipt from landlord for utilities

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 1 point 203 days ago +1 / -0

If they state they have no income, yep. If they claim they work odd jobs for cash, yep.

If they say they are getting "help" from family and friends, or "voluntary" child support, then someone, anyone can write a statement claiming just about anything they want and we have to accept it.

We are not supposed to burden the "client", but do everything we can to help them get benefits.

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– AZTrumpette1776 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

Ok, its the same in AZ but you know as well as I do, when QC picks that fraudulent case up, they will verify the info given was not correct, then you have an error. Over 6% error rate in the next fy will result in the state having to fund a portion of theor Issuance and I know AZ cant do it. It would be the end of snap.

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

We have been getting the "talks" about the 6% error rate and how we have to pay attention to our cases. I don't see it making a big difference. Too many of the case workers are too lazy to do the job because they have been told to close their eyes and authorize!

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 1 point 203 days ago +1 / -0

LOL. Just because it is a written policy doesn't mean that is what we have to do. If they say they are not citizens, then yes, we have to request a copy of their green card, but you have no idea how many like to say they are a citizen and hope no one notices that they are not. There are many case workers that just ignore that little bit of information.

We do have electronic databases that we can access, but if their info is not listed on them we never know about it. Not to mention that a few claim that is isn't them, it's a family member who stole their information.

I have received numerous cases where the individual has been receiving food stamps and Medicaid for over 20 years and the only thing in the case file is their original application and the subsequent annual renewal. NOTHING has ever been verified, not even their identification.

Everything is allegedly automated and "verified" so much so that I just received a case that has been receiving Medicaid since 2019. They have never even completed a renewal application. The system "automatically" renews them!

And do you want to know the thing that really, really burns my ass? The only people that we have to ask for their resources (Bank accounts, 401 K's, etc) and they are supposed to provide is the elderly because of the type of Medicaid they get. That means that you can have over a quarter million in the bank, like my one case, and STILL CAN GET FOOD STAMPS!

The other great way they get away with scamming the system is that they just write down their name, address, phone number on the application and sign it. This way, they can't say that they put down false information because they never provided any information at all! And when you ask them, they say they didn't understand the question.

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– AZTrumpette1776 1 point 203 days ago +1 / -0

AZ has always needed to verify Citizenship and income, self employment income is a joke cause the client just has to have their monthly gross income written down for a 12 month period. Could be on a napkin, who is to say thats not how the do their business records?

But now, AZ is required to verify everything with hard copy. Collateral contacts if the hard copy info needs clarification or the client has tried but "cant get it."

Identifiable apps are a required to be accepted per the CFRs. Name, Address, Signature, nothing more, but when the interview they will get a notice telling them they meed to answer the questions in the app or the interviewer will ask them the questions when they do the interview.

I have seen quite a bit of cases lately coming back from QC where QC found the client had moved out of state and did not report it. The system is supposed to flag the case if the EBT card is used out of state, not sure why that isnt triggering sooner.

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 1 point 203 days ago +1 / -0

PA has all those rules too, except we are told by our leaders not to question them. It's our Job to HELP them get all the benefits they are entitled to. We're supposed to take their word on everything if it is not "questionable." I like to question a lot of things.

I found out from my "clients" that every time they get a job, real or not, or one of the gig types like DoorDash or Spark, they open a new bank account or a different Cash App to get their payments in. Then they keep one with less than $100 in it to "show" when they apply for any type of benefit.

Also, my women "clients" like to claim they are self-employed. They "claim" they do hair. or nails or babysitting or housecleaning, but when I ask for proof, they claim that they have been sick so they haven't been able to work for the past month or two. So I ask for their last year's tax return. "If" and that is a big if, I get it, it's always for $20,000 or less AND they either are breaking even or are taking a loss, mostly taking a loss. That tax return enables them to file for the child tax credits, so by filing their false tax return, they get even more free money from the government.

We get the out-of-state EBT report, but that comes AFTER they have used it exclusively out of state for over 6 months. Since the majority of them have family and friends in NY and NJ they just bounce back and forth and if we tell them to report in person they just drive back overnight.

We still don't have to verify anything.....yet. I pray we do.

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– AZTrumpette1776 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

But it sounds like you as well have some first hand knowledge of how the SNAP program works so question, could PA process all applications if everyone was required to reapply at once??

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

We would be overwhelmed and all the non-citizens or "new" citizens would be calling every day, multiple times a day, complaining that they haven't gotten their "coupones" yet!

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– AZTrumpette1776 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

How often do your Noncitizens threaten to commit suicide if their benefits are not approved immediately? Middle Eastern/Somalian individuals think that the dumb Americans will jump when they hear that threat. Instead, the police are called for their wellness.

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 203 days ago +2 / -0

No, we have Dominicans who scream and carry on and then call me a racist whenever I tell them they are not qualified.

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– Tip-O-Matic 3 points 204 days ago +3 / -0

People on any of these assistance programs should have to re-apply every 6 months, in person. I don't care who you are, if you're getting free stuff from the American taxpayers, the least you can do is get off your ass, and go fill out some paperwork every 6 months.

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 3 points 204 days ago +3 / -0

I say the same about voter registration.

shit can everyones registrations,

And make everyone re-register in their current location

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– WeAreThePlan 2 points 204 days ago +2 / -0

Next the Democrats will be campaigning for the rights of dead people to collect SNAP and vote. Mark my words.

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– usernametaken4 2 points 204 days ago +2 / -0

"But my Grandpa doesn't drive! He can't just show up!!" I can hear all the heartbreaking stories now. Grandpa needs your help then. Grandpa should get an uber to get over there. Grandpa should get assistance from his family and friends.

The stories like that will outnumber the illegals and double dippers... and lazy ineligible Americans. People, and bots, will circulate "true!!11!!" stories to pull at heartstrings to hide the real game.

It's time we step up to help our family members instead of leaving it to government, and it's time to get rid of the fraud and abuse. We need stops in place to make sure it doesn't happen again when a dem gets in office. Or in 40 years when my kids are being crushed by the weight of paying for fraud and abuse.

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 2 points 204 days ago +2 / -0

Well you are really gonna be mad when I tell you that mom and dad and all their over 22 year old children can live in the same house and all "indivudually" get food stamps because.........wait for it.......they ALL purchase and prepare their meals separately! And the Welfare Office has to accept their word for it.

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– LadyMaryKilligrew 1 point 204 days ago +1 / -0

How about it goes ONLY to US Citizens and not all the "immigrants" that come here for all the free stuff. You know that every "minor" of every green card holder that comes here is automatically approved for SNAP and Medicaid in PA from the minute they get here.

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– TinkAnon 1 point 204 days ago +1 / -0

Excellent! Great idea!

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– VaccinesCauseSIDS 1 point 204 days ago +1 / -0

How about…

The government has to re-ratify the 16th amendment,

And prove they cant live wothout my income taxes

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– PatrioticWoman45 1 point 203 days ago +1 / -0

Great idea! YES, I voted for this!

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