As it turns out, in 1925(6) Rockefeller, through his Brookings Institution rewrote our entire legal system. To make it all proper and legal (by creating the entire legal system itself) the same people were then paid by the taxpayer to make a official report that made it into the US law. That Rockefeller created report includes how lawyers conduct cases, how they interpret law (all the "books that interpret law" were created by Rockefeller et al at that time), how cases are tried, what juries were allowed to know, how police must conduct themselves, how evidence was processed and what could be admitted in court, etc., etc., etc.. The entire thing.
It also created the entire prison system. It made a big huge monopoly, ensured that recidivism was huge, and it ensured that there would be a whole lot of people costing a lot of money for the taxpayer. Many would have very long terms, more than a few for life. The cost for each prisoner was more than the average income.
California's Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) was budgeted to spend $127,800 per person on prison operations in the 2025-26 fiscal year, reflecting a substantial increase from previous years due to rising healthcare and security costs
That's CA, which is higher than most, but it shows the scam. Rockefeller created the entire thing; the "justice" system, healthcare, security, etc. As a sort of an aside, Rockefeller (et al) also created the C_A, and the C_A is responsible for the entire drug industry. The "drug industry" is one of the main costs for the public through the legal and prison systems.
Those with "death sentences" often stay in prison for decades. The cost for each death sentence cost even more than the average.
A 2016 study at Susquehanna University found that on average, death row inmates cost $1.12 million more than general population inmates
When I went to Freeport in 1992 for a week, I saw a girl frequently who of course braided my hair!
One day we got to talking and she said in a week she was going to Nassau to see a murderer hung, who killed her brother.
Between the fall of the Roman Empire and the start of the Enlightenment. Europe by some accounts regularly executed .5-1% of its overall population for various Capital offenses every year.
Acting as some Geneticists and Historians believe in effect as a genetic bottleneck. Self-Selecting for social and societally beneficial traits and tendencies among the population. Essentially forcing evolution. Allowing for a rapid pace of development and ambitious projects that so characterized Europe.
The main problem is that the Constitution forbids "cruel and unusual punishment." At least to the liberals who are attacking every attempt at capital punishment. The truth is that the endless appeals process can be considered "cruel and unusual punishment."
Apparently the reason why we don't hang anyone in this country anymore is because somebody took a long time to die by hanging. The truth is that there are going to be problems with any execution method. When done right, hanging should be quick and painless. You put the noose around the person's neck with the rope short enough to provide the condemned enough room to dangle above the ground when the platform is opened.
Also, the ideal time between the crime committed and the execution should be about 90 days. It took 89 days between President Lincoln's death and for 4 co-conspirators to be executed by hanging.
Nowadays, the executions are conducted behind closed doors with about 10-15 people attending including a member of the media. Public executions need to come back. Hopefully President Trump uses his next State of the Union to demand public executions.
perhaps you should read up some on early colonial America and how some of our more prominant founding fathers like george washington and thomas jefferson had zero issue with it.
The case can be made that hanging is cruel and unusual, since many many times the neck is not instantly snapped; they hang there slowly suffocating, sometimes taking half an hour or more.
Cattle stun gun FTW ;) One second you're alive; the next second you're in hell, you traitorous pedophile commie bastards
It is quite possible that even a cattle stun gun could be considered cruel and unusual punishment. The reason is because the shock is so strong that it destroys brain tissue.
I don't know what the Founding Fathers had in mind but I think defining it as maiming and torture (mental or physical) would be appropriate, and that keeping a man locked in a cage for the rest of his life should qualify as mental torture.
keeping a man locked in a cage for the rest of his life should qualify as mental torture.
I started this thread saying that the endless appeals process is "cruel and unusual Punishment." That is because the families and the state need justice. The trial should take place within 90 days of arrest, and if there is a murder or manslaughter conviction, the public execution should take place within two weeks of the death sentence if delivered by the jury.
But if you want cruel and unusual punishment, the Bush 43 administration is the way to go. They did unimaginable torture at Gitmo with terrorists.
The problem is the punishment after the sentence doesn't get carried out for another 20 years because of all the appeals etc. What ever happened to the sentence gets rendered, then punishment carried out? It happens in the mid east!
The cabal blob & their minions have no qualms about killing babies in the womb, no qualms about killing children in cult rituals, using & killing children to harvest their blood for adrenochrome. They have no qualms about sending young people to die in the never ending wars, no qualms about experimenting on people with their poison medicine & mandating that the people take their vaccines or they will force the people or send the people to re-education camps. No qualms about killing all those innocent people in the Twin Towers on 9/11, No qualms about their inviting and paying for invaders to come to the U.S. to keep them in power & prey upon our women & children. The list of their cruelty & inhumanity is endless to We The People. They have no qualms about denying us equal Justice under the law. They have no morality and no moral high ground and no code against killing for pleasure, profit, food, or their rituals.
Therefore I have no objections for them to be killed under the law & in the name of JUSTICE for ALL THE CRIMES THEY HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST HUMANITY.
if there is Sharia law it ok's anyone to cut off hands and Stone a person for breaking the law.
Those crazy people are all in for Sharia Law without understanding that anyone can inflict those punishments and get away with it.
The death penalty then should be right up their alley..... but NO it will not because in this country only a court of law can give a person a death sentence.
Initial response- yes, I like it. With a bit of reflection, I wonder about deep fakes becoming “unequivocal evidence”, or even downright falsified DNA tests and other evidence corrupting true justice.
This may seem like we would be regressing, but I think it would make people think (especially if the hangings would be public) when/before they do a SERIOUS crime. Plus, as I have seen others post here, it will stop that criminal from committing other crimes, for certain.
Mr. Musk is correct. Execution ensures the perpetrator will not reoffend.
It's also a lot cheaper for the public.
As it turns out, in 1925(6) Rockefeller, through his Brookings Institution rewrote our entire legal system. To make it all proper and legal (by creating the entire legal system itself) the same people were then paid by the taxpayer to make a official report that made it into the US law. That Rockefeller created report includes how lawyers conduct cases, how they interpret law (all the "books that interpret law" were created by Rockefeller et al at that time), how cases are tried, what juries were allowed to know, how police must conduct themselves, how evidence was processed and what could be admitted in court, etc., etc., etc.. The entire thing.
It also created the entire prison system. It made a big huge monopoly, ensured that recidivism was huge, and it ensured that there would be a whole lot of people costing a lot of money for the taxpayer. Many would have very long terms, more than a few for life. The cost for each prisoner was more than the average income.
That's CA, which is higher than most, but it shows the scam. Rockefeller created the entire thing; the "justice" system, healthcare, security, etc. As a sort of an aside, Rockefeller (et al) also created the C_A, and the C_A is responsible for the entire drug industry. The "drug industry" is one of the main costs for the public through the legal and prison systems.
Those with "death sentences" often stay in prison for decades. The cost for each death sentence cost even more than the average.
Hanging would save the US a LOT of money.
Lets play rock, paper, scissors... or as i like to say.. rope, bullet or chipper...
Definitely
And as a Strong Deterrent for anyone else to Consider it… They’ll Think before Committing
This is exactly the kind of overton window pushing we need to restore justice
When I went to Freeport in 1992 for a week, I saw a girl frequently who of course braided my hair! One day we got to talking and she said in a week she was going to Nassau to see a murderer hung, who killed her brother.
I was like wow they still hang them in Nassau!
Perhaps he's right.
100% agree. The fear of execution, especially public execution, will deter much crime. Not to mention removing the ability to offend multiple times
Between the fall of the Roman Empire and the start of the Enlightenment. Europe by some accounts regularly executed .5-1% of its overall population for various Capital offenses every year.
Acting as some Geneticists and Historians believe in effect as a genetic bottleneck. Self-Selecting for social and societally beneficial traits and tendencies among the population. Essentially forcing evolution. Allowing for a rapid pace of development and ambitious projects that so characterized Europe.
Yep. It's why we have "crime families"....many of whom now specialize....some join congress...."
The main problem is that the Constitution forbids "cruel and unusual punishment." At least to the liberals who are attacking every attempt at capital punishment. The truth is that the endless appeals process can be considered "cruel and unusual punishment."
Hanging is not cruel nor unusual if youre guilty of murder or treason
Apparently the reason why we don't hang anyone in this country anymore is because somebody took a long time to die by hanging. The truth is that there are going to be problems with any execution method. When done right, hanging should be quick and painless. You put the noose around the person's neck with the rope short enough to provide the condemned enough room to dangle above the ground when the platform is opened.
Also, the ideal time between the crime committed and the execution should be about 90 days. It took 89 days between President Lincoln's death and for 4 co-conspirators to be executed by hanging.
Nowadays, the executions are conducted behind closed doors with about 10-15 people attending including a member of the media. Public executions need to come back. Hopefully President Trump uses his next State of the Union to demand public executions.
perhaps you should read up some on early colonial America and how some of our more prominant founding fathers like george washington and thomas jefferson had zero issue with it.
About the members of congress that called for disobeying President Trump's order, Thomas Jefferson would say, "George, great day for a hanging."
Personally, I have no trouble with hanging as long as I am not at the business end of the noose.
The case can be made that hanging is cruel and unusual, since many many times the neck is not instantly snapped; they hang there slowly suffocating, sometimes taking half an hour or more.
Cattle stun gun FTW ;) One second you're alive; the next second you're in hell, you traitorous pedophile commie bastards
It is quite possible that even a cattle stun gun could be considered cruel and unusual punishment. The reason is because the shock is so strong that it destroys brain tissue.
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Yes but that is saying "ALL killing is cruel and unusual"
Because ALL killing destroys brain tissue by making it stop living
Cruel and Unusual punishment needs to be defined.
I don't know what the Founding Fathers had in mind but I think defining it as maiming and torture (mental or physical) would be appropriate, and that keeping a man locked in a cage for the rest of his life should qualify as mental torture.
I started this thread saying that the endless appeals process is "cruel and unusual Punishment." That is because the families and the state need justice. The trial should take place within 90 days of arrest, and if there is a murder or manslaughter conviction, the public execution should take place within two weeks of the death sentence if delivered by the jury.
But if you want cruel and unusual punishment, the Bush 43 administration is the way to go. They did unimaginable torture at Gitmo with terrorists.
You know how Asian cultures have the superstition "four is death"?
If you ask me, four criminal convictions and you should be put to death.
Period.
At that point, it's clear you're never going to learn.
The problem is the punishment after the sentence doesn't get carried out for another 20 years because of all the appeals etc. What ever happened to the sentence gets rendered, then punishment carried out? It happens in the mid east!
An eye for an eye
A neck for a neck
The cabal blob & their minions have no qualms about killing babies in the womb, no qualms about killing children in cult rituals, using & killing children to harvest their blood for adrenochrome. They have no qualms about sending young people to die in the never ending wars, no qualms about experimenting on people with their poison medicine & mandating that the people take their vaccines or they will force the people or send the people to re-education camps. No qualms about killing all those innocent people in the Twin Towers on 9/11, No qualms about their inviting and paying for invaders to come to the U.S. to keep them in power & prey upon our women & children. The list of their cruelty & inhumanity is endless to We The People. They have no qualms about denying us equal Justice under the law. They have no morality and no moral high ground and no code against killing for pleasure, profit, food, or their rituals.
Therefore I have no objections for them to be killed under the law & in the name of JUSTICE for ALL THE CRIMES THEY HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST HUMANITY.
A: Make sure they're on the same drugs when they're executed. To make sure all parties are accountable.
It's not just leftists. Everyone I speak to, even conservatives, are against the death penalty because "innocent people will die". Lol!
Hanging is not 100% effective nor is it quick
Cattle stun gun FTW
Nothing is quicker; they're dead before they hit the floor; very minimal mess too
Process 100 commie pedophiles out the door in the time it takes to hang one
if there is Sharia law it ok's anyone to cut off hands and Stone a person for breaking the law. Those crazy people are all in for Sharia Law without understanding that anyone can inflict those punishments and get away with it.
The death penalty then should be right up their alley..... but NO it will not because in this country only a court of law can give a person a death sentence.
Now do the Old Testament
Initial response- yes, I like it. With a bit of reflection, I wonder about deep fakes becoming “unequivocal evidence”, or even downright falsified DNA tests and other evidence corrupting true justice.
This may seem like we would be regressing, but I think it would make people think (especially if the hangings would be public) when/before they do a SERIOUS crime. Plus, as I have seen others post here, it will stop that criminal from committing other crimes, for certain.