I agree 100% but lethal force in this case at least according to what I see didn't seem justified. I'm the first to admit I don't know who the illegal is and I'm searching to see what I can find. If it was the latin king dude that was just released then I can easily justify it but I'm finding it hard to find out who the dude was in the video. I didn't see a gun and see enough ICE agents to handle the situation without lethal force. I am 100% behind ICE. I just need support to help me keep the calm and help keep others that are on the edge over this video to keep supporting ICE.
In MN the State law says you cannot carry a firearm whilst committing a felony. If you have a concealed carry permit it is MN law that you MUST carry ID & Concealed carry card.
He was armed & not carrying any ID - a crime!
He was impeding law enforcement - a crime! He resisted law enforcement's attempt to de-escalate & disarm him - a crime.
Tell your someone that if one pulls a gun on a cop or tries to run a cop over with a car one might get shot. Has nothing to do with red pills or Trump, and a lot to do with reality.
I suggest you stay focused on how 30 million people got illegally allowed into the country and now they're being bankrolled in the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Focusing on each individual incident that does not involve the overall policy of extracting these Invaders is a mistake .
Agreed fully but scenes like this will unravel public opinion very quickly if we don't have supporting evidence to say this is justified. Not everyone in our country sees the world like we do and to keep momentum on our side it's very important to handle these things with evidence. Remember, we always say optics are important. Why wouldn't optics be important in this case?
I just saw that DHS told FOX News the perp had a gun. Sorry no link or sauce but I'm sure you'll soon find plenty of you haven't already. God bless your efforts!
Explain please. I don't understand your point. Yes I want all illegals out. The dude was subdued and I didn't see a gun. If there was then I'm OK with the lethal force. If this guy was a murderer, gang member, rapist, pedo then I'm OK with lethal force being used. However just look at this video how would any of us know that?
If we have evidence of these things I would love to be able to send that to my buddy to try to calm his ass down. He said living in MN has been hell and I'm simply trying to save a friend with evidence or logical arguments that justify this.
Why the attacking tone? Dude, all I'm doing is trying to help keep someone I red pulled on our side. All I'm doing is trying to find supporting evidence that justifies this. No need to be slinging arrows my way FFS.
Really? I simply shared the link my friend sent to look for support for our side. I'd say you're the problem here trying to stir up shit for no reason.
As long as your friend is getting, relying and REACTING on his info via reddit I do not think he is going to make an U Turn away from the Instaput Activist mindset tbf. For everybody, remind yourselves to NOT go in hot in your reaction to a breaking story, give it a day or two because, what ever is said right away, is almost always, WRONG. If he had a gun, even if he was already wrestled to the ground, one hand free and he could grab said gun and use it.. just like when they get shot if trying to grab at an officers gun mid process of securing an individual.
You can not force a person to be "red pilled" the harder you push the more they will resist, they have to see it for themselves to have that Ahhah moment. Can forward information they themselves may not be getting because, they are only seeing what reddit shows them, or cnn or fox or msmbc or .. what ever their nose in deep into to tell them how to think on the matter. heh. I usually get info from here first then, proceed to go look up specifics elsewhere and keep an eye out for further info within the next couple of days on any one subject that, I may want to invest time in. I do have the mindset that, Ice, police, border patrol... are not running around shooting people for fun or no good reason to be pulling a trigger when it is pulled. Saying that, if the one that shot the gun, did so on accident or no good reason then yes, that specific law enforcement individual needs to be held accountable.
Sorry for the reddit post. I worked my ass off for years to red pill a friend that I worked with that lives in MN. Now with scenes like this that I can't find a justified reason they killed the dude I'm quickly losing ground and he is slipping back to the other side.
Yes the dude should not have resisted but should lethal force been used here when there are so many officers there? Even to me, a military veteran die hard MAGA patriot, this looks really bad and I'm not sure how to respond to my friends text. He sent "fuck ICE". I've been explaining this is the fault of the Biden regime and harsh measures need to be taken to fix the problem. I just have no response for what I see in this video. Any thoughts on how to save my friend from slipping back to the other side on this?
He is a really good dude and worth fighting to save. He voted for Trump - he is Asian born in the US. He parents legally migrated to the US. He is a professional (worked at a Big 4 consulting firm with me). His wife is a Doctor. He is a genuinely good person. I'm trying to save one I feel is worth saving.
He had a weapon on his person. It appears it was removed by another agent just before shots were fired. If you are resisting law enforcement while armed I would think law enforcement would have concern of being fired upon. Not sure it was the right choice but we aren’t there making split second decisions.
why the fuq wasn't this stickied all day? kind of a big deal. I didn't find out until 3pm and it happened at 9:05am and it never trended on X all day....wtf? there's weird shit going on with the news these days, like it flying buy so fast we can't remember stuff
No judgement on you. Your friend is not "red pilled" if he is so easily knocked off course by an event that is in progress. ICE officers are NOT randomly killing people, When my (very few) lefty friends come at me woth the "what about this" accusations, I tell them everything is wait and see - I dont take it personal and I dont engage - not advise just my tactic.
Don't care, if you brandish a loaded gun while fighting with LE, expect to get shot and maybe killed. What these insurrectionists are doing is illegal all day long. I wouldn't worry about one person's opinion, I'm over the stupidity in our society. If they don't like it, they can leave. My give-a-damn is busted.
My thinking on this, is when you get Bulldozers, Backhoes, Front-end loaders, and labor pipe layers all working in a tight area, it's possible someone is going to get run over, no matter how careful everyone is. I've seen this with my on eyes.
Likewise, when you get ICE and citizens tangle up in a hyper-violent atmosphere, it's likely, after enough time, that someone is going to get hurt or killed.
I agree 100% but lethal force in this case at least according to what I see didn't seem justified. I'm the first to admit I don't know who the illegal is and I'm searching to see what I can find. If it was the latin king dude that was just released then I can easily justify it but I'm finding it hard to find out who the dude was in the video. I didn't see a gun and see enough ICE agents to handle the situation without lethal force. I am 100% behind ICE. I just need support to help me keep the calm and help keep others that are on the edge over this video to keep supporting ICE.
Why is the shooting not justified?
In MN the State law says you cannot carry a firearm whilst committing a felony. If you have a concealed carry permit it is MN law that you MUST carry ID & Concealed carry card.
He was armed & not carrying any ID - a crime! He was impeding law enforcement - a crime! He resisted law enforcement's attempt to de-escalate & disarm him - a crime.
Fire arm issues: https://x.com/thebrancashow/status/2015188635876766090?s=61
Here is a test for your Marxists Reddit fren: https://x.com/wallstreetapes/status/2015102188654375257?s=61
If 100.0%, have some popcorn and wait for the truth to out.
Reddit? lol
Liberal, ignore him.
Tell your someone that if one pulls a gun on a cop or tries to run a cop over with a car one might get shot. Has nothing to do with red pills or Trump, and a lot to do with reality.
Was there a gun? I didn't see one.
I'm seeing that the guy tried to pull a gun on the officers. Let's see what happens, but I'm believing it's true.
Thank you. I'm looking for anything I can to help calm this situation with any facts I can provide.
I suggest you stay focused on how 30 million people got illegally allowed into the country and now they're being bankrolled in the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars. Focusing on each individual incident that does not involve the overall policy of extracting these Invaders is a mistake .
Agreed fully but scenes like this will unravel public opinion very quickly if we don't have supporting evidence to say this is justified. Not everyone in our country sees the world like we do and to keep momentum on our side it's very important to handle these things with evidence. Remember, we always say optics are important. Why wouldn't optics be important in this case?
Low information post right here lol
I just saw that DHS told FOX News the perp had a gun. Sorry no link or sauce but I'm sure you'll soon find plenty of you haven't already. God bless your efforts!
I also didnt see a nazi but the left seems to think ice are nazi
you just posted in favor of vigilante justice for leftist bullshit and now you're mad when they get it?
Explain please. I don't understand your point. Yes I want all illegals out. The dude was subdued and I didn't see a gun. If there was then I'm OK with the lethal force. If this guy was a murderer, gang member, rapist, pedo then I'm OK with lethal force being used. However just look at this video how would any of us know that?
If we have evidence of these things I would love to be able to send that to my buddy to try to calm his ass down. He said living in MN has been hell and I'm simply trying to save a friend with evidence or logical arguments that justify this.
you can't congruently call for public hangings, vigilante justice, etc and then also get upset when those things happen
play stupid games, win stupid prizes
also the ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT pulled a GUN and that's why he got shot
wait until the other angles come out, it's already being reported
maybe you would prefer drone executions like Obama?
Why the attacking tone? Dude, all I'm doing is trying to help keep someone I red pulled on our side. All I'm doing is trying to find supporting evidence that justifies this. No need to be slinging arrows my way FFS.
you cross posted a reddit link on here after you've gone out of your way to call for violence on this site
that's why the attacking tone, I think you're a shill
Really? I simply shared the link my friend sent to look for support for our side. I'd say you're the problem here trying to stir up shit for no reason.
As long as your friend is getting, relying and REACTING on his info via reddit I do not think he is going to make an U Turn away from the Instaput Activist mindset tbf. For everybody, remind yourselves to NOT go in hot in your reaction to a breaking story, give it a day or two because, what ever is said right away, is almost always, WRONG. If he had a gun, even if he was already wrestled to the ground, one hand free and he could grab said gun and use it.. just like when they get shot if trying to grab at an officers gun mid process of securing an individual. You can not force a person to be "red pilled" the harder you push the more they will resist, they have to see it for themselves to have that Ahhah moment. Can forward information they themselves may not be getting because, they are only seeing what reddit shows them, or cnn or fox or msmbc or .. what ever their nose in deep into to tell them how to think on the matter. heh. I usually get info from here first then, proceed to go look up specifics elsewhere and keep an eye out for further info within the next couple of days on any one subject that, I may want to invest time in. I do have the mindset that, Ice, police, border patrol... are not running around shooting people for fun or no good reason to be pulling a trigger when it is pulled. Saying that, if the one that shot the gun, did so on accident or no good reason then yes, that specific law enforcement individual needs to be held accountable.
Definitely a shill lol.
Here is a PSA from like 2000 from Chris Rock on how to not get your ass beat by cops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx12Rox91ww
Don't fucking pull a gun on a cop while they are arresting you.
You are the sum of all the stupid people you hang out with. Remember that.
Go away liberal, begone.
Who's a liberal?
You, at least you sound like one.
Sorry for the reddit post. I worked my ass off for years to red pill a friend that I worked with that lives in MN. Now with scenes like this that I can't find a justified reason they killed the dude I'm quickly losing ground and he is slipping back to the other side.
Yes the dude should not have resisted but should lethal force been used here when there are so many officers there? Even to me, a military veteran die hard MAGA patriot, this looks really bad and I'm not sure how to respond to my friends text. He sent "fuck ICE". I've been explaining this is the fault of the Biden regime and harsh measures need to be taken to fix the problem. I just have no response for what I see in this video. Any thoughts on how to save my friend from slipping back to the other side on this?
Best way to save your friend is a lobotomy, since he’s brain dead already.
He is a really good dude and worth fighting to save. He voted for Trump - he is Asian born in the US. He parents legally migrated to the US. He is a professional (worked at a Big 4 consulting firm with me). His wife is a Doctor. He is a genuinely good person. I'm trying to save one I feel is worth saving.
He had a weapon on his person. It appears it was removed by another agent just before shots were fired. If you are resisting law enforcement while armed I would think law enforcement would have concern of being fired upon. Not sure it was the right choice but we aren’t there making split second decisions.
My guess is the perp pulled out a weapon.
Yeah I'm thinking that may have happened too. I just want to be able to get something I can send to show that if possible.
He was ARMED!
why the fuq wasn't this stickied all day? kind of a big deal. I didn't find out until 3pm and it happened at 9:05am and it never trended on X all day....wtf? there's weird shit going on with the news these days, like it flying buy so fast we can't remember stuff
Here you go.
https://greatawakening.win/p/1ARwijXxCL/-breaking-us-border-patrol-invol/c/
He wasn’t illegal.
Reddit? That is all.
Yes, I know. It was the link my friend shared with me so the only thing I had.
No judgement on you. Your friend is not "red pilled" if he is so easily knocked off course by an event that is in progress. ICE officers are NOT randomly killing people, When my (very few) lefty friends come at me woth the "what about this" accusations, I tell them everything is wait and see - I dont take it personal and I dont engage - not advise just my tactic.
What the hell are you talking about? Current information is he was an armed individual trying to do harm. Cbp was trying to disarm.
Don't care, if you brandish a loaded gun while fighting with LE, expect to get shot and maybe killed. What these insurrectionists are doing is illegal all day long. I wouldn't worry about one person's opinion, I'm over the stupidity in our society. If they don't like it, they can leave. My give-a-damn is busted.
My thinking on this, is when you get Bulldozers, Backhoes, Front-end loaders, and labor pipe layers all working in a tight area, it's possible someone is going to get run over, no matter how careful everyone is. I've seen this with my on eyes.
Likewise, when you get ICE and citizens tangle up in a hyper-violent atmosphere, it's likely, after enough time, that someone is going to get hurt or killed.
The ccp is excited about comparing ice to Gestapos
So we know it’s fine