I don't think that's what the bill is for. I think it's to stop professionals, like doctors and engineers and lawyers, from using it instead of relying on their own knowledge and judgement. You'd think that doesn't happen but it happens all day long.
I dunno, I play a card game called yugioh and we had to ban AI from making rulings, not to protect the judges money (we don't get any) but because AI gets it wrong more often than not!
Now imagine an AI that hallucinate and gets things wrong, trying to diagnose your medical issues.
It's all in how you craft the prompt. If you give it clear instructions to provide analysis along with the receipts, it's hardly ever wrong. Most medical text books are clear in what treatments work for which diagnoses, what the guidelines are for those diagnoses, etc. If you just ask the LLMs to provide the steps, along with the proofs, they are great tools to use for anything.
I think this is the right idea, but the wrong approach.
It's great to have AI as an optional tool to use. It's great at distilling a quick summary of what the Internet says. Basically a google search on steroids - well, a google search before google purposely fucked up google searches. Still, google searches were great for getting a quick initial sense about a topic, but it shouldn't be used in a vacuum for decision making.
The problem is too many companies want to use it to eliminate people or to make decisions in a vacuum and without being transparent about it.
AI would allow an idiot like me with a horrible math background to do engineering. I've been told by engineers I have an engineering mind....I see math in my head but can't do it on paper. (Thanks public schooling)
These companies trying to replace people with AI are going to wind up broke. AI fails in creativity which will stifle innovation. AI will never replace someone like Tesla. You need people to be able to think outside the box. You're 100% right, AI is nothing but Google and a calculator on steroids. This is just NY being NY.
Exactly. AI is helpful, but at the same time it basically ruins one of the core enjoyments of anyone creative, which is the struggle. Many programmers are speaking out about how they feel burnt out from using AI, that the journey is just as enjoyable as the destination. AI on its own is not creative, it's never going to be on the same level as a human.
Well, if you do a google search, each ai paragraph or chunk of text has little citation links so you can reference all the sites you want.
Brave's ai search does the same thing.
When I ask Grok something it gives the references - and they are real. I haven't had a fake one yet.
As for the medical stuff... I have used it extensively during my VA disability claim and the C&P exams they've sent me to (VA sends you to either civilian hospitals or to a contracted doctor depending on what they want to test). Example - I fed Grok results for my MRIs, CTs, and XRays and asked it to explain it to me in a way that I could question the Neurologist when I went in for my appointment after the tests. I didn't tell the Doc that I used AI, but he was surprised I was asking him the questions.
I also asked him to schedule me for an EMG because of the nerve damage I knew I had, and saw in the results from the tests (that Grok translated for me). He did and it showed radiculopathy in 4 nerves in my legs. That doubled my disability percentage. Unfortunately he didn't order the EMG for my neck and back - just my legs - so I have to get the neck and back done now.
So - I didn't use Grok to self-treat. I used it to help me understand what the reporting Docs and Radiologists said, and it helped me to ask intelligent questions and get the test (one of them anyway) I needed. It probably saved me a month or 2 of their normal procedure of pain relief or numbing shots, and physical therapy - neither of which would've done anything for me.
I was driving into work this morning and it was raining. Thinking about how you're not supposed to turn on cruise control in the rain because it can cause the traction control to lose control. Not sure if that's still a thing? If so, not sure how robot cars could handle rain or snow well. Kek!
I just got diagnosed with hypermobility, and only because I fed my medical history issues into an AI so I could get a second opinion, because my rheumatologist was just letting me rot undiagnosed. Connective tissue disorder came up as possible reason for my joint pain. And sure enough….
Maybe they wouldn’t have to fear AI if they were competent and tried harder. Or, better yet, maybe they should try using AI to brainstorm why their patients are hurting / sick, rather than fearing it.
Maybe if they actually listened band spent time with their patients rather than running b around like like a kid running from a nurse wielding a cattle prod.
There was a time when you knew your doctor outside of his office.
These days you see your waitress for longer than you see your doctor.
However: Only an utter fool would use AI for medical advice. Or for anything else important, like "Is this mushroom safe to eat?"
AI is just a digital ouija board. It doesn't "know" ANYTHING.
And if your nurse/doctor/dentist is using AI to get answers about your health, for God's sake get up and leave.
This may be what this bill is about: To stop your doctor from using it, which no doctor should EVER do. I'll reserve judgment until I know more about the bill.
I don’t understand how New York thinks they can stop people from using AI… it’s not a thing that resides in a state. Are they trying to stop businesses in their state from using it? Very odd.
Yup. They big mad people can be healthy, happy, legally protected for free or $20 a month. Gatekeepers.
“Professionals”.
-Ferris Beuller's Day Off
Truuuust me......
Relax! I'm a professional...
A few moments later...
Star Wars
😁😁😁😁😁
Scruffy looking Knurfurdet!
Lolz! 😆
Playing field leveled.
I don't think that's what the bill is for. I think it's to stop professionals, like doctors and engineers and lawyers, from using it instead of relying on their own knowledge and judgement. You'd think that doesn't happen but it happens all day long.
I dunno, I play a card game called yugioh and we had to ban AI from making rulings, not to protect the judges money (we don't get any) but because AI gets it wrong more often than not!
Now imagine an AI that hallucinate and gets things wrong, trying to diagnose your medical issues.
No thanks! I'd rather have a human
How is that any worse than an old wives tale about a cure for the "Common Cold"?
It's all in how you craft the prompt. If you give it clear instructions to provide analysis along with the receipts, it's hardly ever wrong. Most medical text books are clear in what treatments work for which diagnoses, what the guidelines are for those diagnoses, etc. If you just ask the LLMs to provide the steps, along with the proofs, they are great tools to use for anything.
Western AI hallucinates a lot but there’s a reason QWEN is #1 hugging face.
u/catsfive just posted:
https://twitter.com/CryptoWhale/status/2029839589658017934
I think this is the right idea, but the wrong approach.
It's great to have AI as an optional tool to use. It's great at distilling a quick summary of what the Internet says. Basically a google search on steroids - well, a google search before google purposely fucked up google searches. Still, google searches were great for getting a quick initial sense about a topic, but it shouldn't be used in a vacuum for decision making.
The problem is too many companies want to use it to eliminate people or to make decisions in a vacuum and without being transparent about it.
AI would allow an idiot like me with a horrible math background to do engineering. I've been told by engineers I have an engineering mind....I see math in my head but can't do it on paper. (Thanks public schooling)
These companies trying to replace people with AI are going to wind up broke. AI fails in creativity which will stifle innovation. AI will never replace someone like Tesla. You need people to be able to think outside the box. You're 100% right, AI is nothing but Google and a calculator on steroids. This is just NY being NY.
Exactly. AI is helpful, but at the same time it basically ruins one of the core enjoyments of anyone creative, which is the struggle. Many programmers are speaking out about how they feel burnt out from using AI, that the journey is just as enjoyable as the destination. AI on its own is not creative, it's never going to be on the same level as a human.
What if they made AI provide references so we could do our own research?
Well, if you do a google search, each ai paragraph or chunk of text has little citation links so you can reference all the sites you want. Brave's ai search does the same thing.
When I ask Grok something it gives the references - and they are real. I haven't had a fake one yet.
As for the medical stuff... I have used it extensively during my VA disability claim and the C&P exams they've sent me to (VA sends you to either civilian hospitals or to a contracted doctor depending on what they want to test). Example - I fed Grok results for my MRIs, CTs, and XRays and asked it to explain it to me in a way that I could question the Neurologist when I went in for my appointment after the tests. I didn't tell the Doc that I used AI, but he was surprised I was asking him the questions.
I also asked him to schedule me for an EMG because of the nerve damage I knew I had, and saw in the results from the tests (that Grok translated for me). He did and it showed radiculopathy in 4 nerves in my legs. That doubled my disability percentage. Unfortunately he didn't order the EMG for my neck and back - just my legs - so I have to get the neck and back done now.
So - I didn't use Grok to self-treat. I used it to help me understand what the reporting Docs and Radiologists said, and it helped me to ask intelligent questions and get the test (one of them anyway) I needed. It probably saved me a month or 2 of their normal procedure of pain relief or numbing shots, and physical therapy - neither of which would've done anything for me.
I didn't know that you could load images into grok.
Images, text files, cut/paste - all kinds of stuff.
Because It Makes Up References, Too, and we should all be aware of that
If you can do your own research, what do you need AI for? (You don't)
Oh really?
It sounds like a democrat!
I love this.
Ai sucks. The sooner the bubble pops, the better off humanity will be.
It produces an endless torrent of trash.
and yet, they want robot cars and robot kiosks at stores....
I was driving into work this morning and it was raining. Thinking about how you're not supposed to turn on cruise control in the rain because it can cause the traction control to lose control. Not sure if that's still a thing? If so, not sure how robot cars could handle rain or snow well. Kek!
Never heard that, but i have little experience wit vehicles that have traction control..
I just got diagnosed with hypermobility, and only because I fed my medical history issues into an AI so I could get a second opinion, because my rheumatologist was just letting me rot undiagnosed. Connective tissue disorder came up as possible reason for my joint pain. And sure enough….
Maybe they wouldn’t have to fear AI if they were competent and tried harder. Or, better yet, maybe they should try using AI to brainstorm why their patients are hurting / sick, rather than fearing it.
Maybe if they actually listened band spent time with their patients rather than running b around like like a kid running from a nurse wielding a cattle prod.
There was a time when you knew your doctor outside of his office.
These days you see your waitress for longer than you see your doctor.
However: Only an utter fool would use AI for medical advice. Or for anything else important, like "Is this mushroom safe to eat?"
AI is just a digital ouija board. It doesn't "know" ANYTHING.
And if your nurse/doctor/dentist is using AI to get answers about your health, for God's sake get up and leave.
This may be what this bill is about: To stop your doctor from using it, which no doctor should EVER do. I'll reserve judgment until I know more about the bill.
It depends on what you consider medical advice...
Say you as grok to give you the maximum daily dosage from the label on a bottle of advice because you can't read print that small....
I don’t understand how New York thinks they can stop people from using AI… it’s not a thing that resides in a state. Are they trying to stop businesses in their state from using it? Very odd.