"To be fair" he says as he proceeds to not be fair.
Imagine disparaging one of the cultural musical bedrocks of our nation and the many fine patriots that perform/ enjoy it cause you personally don't care for it.
Idk, as a musician myself I would agree that the majority of mainstream artists are fake & ghey regardless of genre. And that trend dates back decades... it's only gotten worse over time.
I agree though that we shouldn't blanket sweep deep cultural influences in the trash just because modernity and molestation of the music has sullied a genre. E.g. I'll keep listening to The Dead Kennedys but you can flush Blink182 right down the crapper where it belongs. Or, in this case keep the Waylon and flush the Florida Georgia Line kek!
ABSOLUTELY! Because they’ve ALL been completely infiltrated by the satanic deepstate producers who care more about brainwashing idiots than they care about producing quality music. Having said that, there’s tons of great instrumental stuff out there that I truly love
Fun facts . AI and algorithms found that the leading US music genres, country, hip hop, r&b have a average lyric reading level of 3rd grade and below. Says alot about the listeners and the popularity. And for being a bedrock that's just your fanboi opinion. Back in the day a bone beating a rock was the bedrock of the Neanderthal drum circle. Imagine disparaging your ancestors bones beats. LAME
First of all that's a massive category error. Lyrics are not term papers. They’re compressed, rhythmic, oral art. By that same logic, you could run large chunks of Psalms or Proverbs through a readability tool and conclude ancient wisdom literature was written for elementary schoolers. Short lines, repetition, concrete imagery. Congratulations, you’ve just disproved poetry itself.
Second, you’re confusing simplicity with stupidity. Hip hop in particular often leans on metaphor, wordplay, internal rhyme, and cultural references that don’t show up on your precious “reading level” meter. A punchline from Nas or Kendrick Lamar can carry more layered meaning than a five-paragraph essay padded to impress a high school teacher. But sure, count the syllables and declare victory. That’s like judging a steak by how well it fits through a straw.
Third, “says a lot about the listeners” is just lazy snobbery. Popularity doesn’t track neatly with IQ any more than shoe size tracks with virtue. Simple, memorable phrasing is how music sticks. It’s why chants, hymns, and yes, even your hypothetical Neanderthal drum circle, actually work. Humans remember rhythm and repetition. This is not a moral failure. It’s how brains are wired.
Finally, calling something “just your fanboy opinion” (which is funny since I'm actually not a huge fan of country music or hip-hop) while waving around a vague “AI found” statistic is rich. You're not making an argument, you're hiding behind a buzzword like it’s a security blanket.
You’ve taken a blunt tool, applied it to the wrong medium, and then used the result to sneer at millions of people.
Your "insight" is just dressed-up contempt with a calculator under the light of a logical fallacy.
Your lengthy worded coping mechanism says it all. By ascending number points, quite cliche btw, first of all, grandstanding soapbox diatribe. But I'll give you credit as your name has disco, spin to try and win. Your first point nicely proves my point though sheep can be led by a single rhythmic bell proven time and time again for centuries. The only fallacy here is the word salad you presented devoid of logic laced with mostly snark and a high horse. Which would be the bedrock of a white knight. Id follow with your kind of advice and also say. "Do better" but at this point I dont think you could do any worse. One might say its your tippy top.
Cheers
Ah, the classic “you used too many words, therefore you’re wrong” maneuver. A bold strategy. By that logic, every book longer than a fortune cookie is a coping mechanism. I suppose War and Peace is just Tolstoy spiraling publicly.
Let’s take your reply apart gently, like a watch that already stopped ticking.
You say “my first point proves your point” because “sheep can be led by a rhythmic bell.” That’s not a rebuttal, that’s you accidentally agreeing that rhythm is powerful and memorable, which was the entire point. You’ve managed to call human cognition livestock behavior and then act like you scored something. If rhythm influencing memory makes people sheep, then congratulations, every culture on earth has been a barnyard since the invention of drums.
Then we get “word salad devoid of logic,” which is always the refuge of someone who didn’t actually identify a logical error. It’s the debate equivalent of flipping the chessboard and declaring the pieces were arranged suspiciously. If there’s a fallacy, name it. Otherwise, it just sounds like you got lost halfway through and blamed the map.
The “high horse” and “white knight” lines are doing a lot of heavy lifting for arguments that never showed up. It’s just aesthetic criticism of tone. You didn’t refute the point about misusing readability metrics. You didn’t touch the distinction between written prose and lyrical composition. You didn’t engage the example of layered writing in artists like Kendrick Lamar. You just waved your hand and said “snark,” like that settles anything.
And the “ascending number points, quite cliché” jab is especially funny. Structure is now a vice? Next you’ll accuse paragraphs of elitism and punctuation of systemic oppression. Organization isn’t a flaw. It’s what arguments look like when they’re house-trained.
Your response is less a counterargument and more a fog machine. Lots of atmosphere, very little substance. You didn’t dismantle anything. You just complained about how it sounded while quietly sidestepping what it said. That’s not a rebuttal.
"To be fair" he says as he proceeds to not be fair.
Imagine disparaging one of the cultural musical bedrocks of our nation and the many fine patriots that perform/ enjoy it cause you personally don't care for it.
Lame AF.
There are only two kinds of music, Country and Western.😂
Reminded me of this great quote...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K8y4Z-ZAhjw
Thanks for providing more sauce than I did!
u/#spitcoffee
i was listening to Bach on YouTube, and of course, I love to read the comments as I listen to videos, and one commentator said
“Bach is good and all, but have you guys heard of Godsmack?”
Talk about an ooof cringe YT comment kek
"Good sir, I'll see your Slopsmack and raise you a Thinking Fellers Union Local 282."
Idk, as a musician myself I would agree that the majority of mainstream artists are fake & ghey regardless of genre. And that trend dates back decades... it's only gotten worse over time.
I agree though that we shouldn't blanket sweep deep cultural influences in the trash just because modernity and molestation of the music has sullied a genre. E.g. I'll keep listening to The Dead Kennedys but you can flush Blink182 right down the crapper where it belongs. Or, in this case keep the Waylon and flush the Florida Georgia Line kek!
Every genre that goes mainstream will have knock off high fructose options on the shelf next to quality artists.
It's just the nature of the beast.
ABSOLUTELY! Because they’ve ALL been completely infiltrated by the satanic deepstate producers who care more about brainwashing idiots than they care about producing quality music. Having said that, there’s tons of great instrumental stuff out there that I truly love
Fun facts . AI and algorithms found that the leading US music genres, country, hip hop, r&b have a average lyric reading level of 3rd grade and below. Says alot about the listeners and the popularity. And for being a bedrock that's just your fanboi opinion. Back in the day a bone beating a rock was the bedrock of the Neanderthal drum circle. Imagine disparaging your ancestors bones beats. LAME
Holy shit are you really that retarded?
First of all that's a massive category error. Lyrics are not term papers. They’re compressed, rhythmic, oral art. By that same logic, you could run large chunks of Psalms or Proverbs through a readability tool and conclude ancient wisdom literature was written for elementary schoolers. Short lines, repetition, concrete imagery. Congratulations, you’ve just disproved poetry itself.
Second, you’re confusing simplicity with stupidity. Hip hop in particular often leans on metaphor, wordplay, internal rhyme, and cultural references that don’t show up on your precious “reading level” meter. A punchline from Nas or Kendrick Lamar can carry more layered meaning than a five-paragraph essay padded to impress a high school teacher. But sure, count the syllables and declare victory. That’s like judging a steak by how well it fits through a straw.
Third, “says a lot about the listeners” is just lazy snobbery. Popularity doesn’t track neatly with IQ any more than shoe size tracks with virtue. Simple, memorable phrasing is how music sticks. It’s why chants, hymns, and yes, even your hypothetical Neanderthal drum circle, actually work. Humans remember rhythm and repetition. This is not a moral failure. It’s how brains are wired.
Finally, calling something “just your fanboy opinion” (which is funny since I'm actually not a huge fan of country music or hip-hop) while waving around a vague “AI found” statistic is rich. You're not making an argument, you're hiding behind a buzzword like it’s a security blanket.
You’ve taken a blunt tool, applied it to the wrong medium, and then used the result to sneer at millions of people.
Your "insight" is just dressed-up contempt with a calculator under the light of a logical fallacy.
Do better.
Your lengthy worded coping mechanism says it all. By ascending number points, quite cliche btw, first of all, grandstanding soapbox diatribe. But I'll give you credit as your name has disco, spin to try and win. Your first point nicely proves my point though sheep can be led by a single rhythmic bell proven time and time again for centuries. The only fallacy here is the word salad you presented devoid of logic laced with mostly snark and a high horse. Which would be the bedrock of a white knight. Id follow with your kind of advice and also say. "Do better" but at this point I dont think you could do any worse. One might say its your tippy top. Cheers
Ah, the classic “you used too many words, therefore you’re wrong” maneuver. A bold strategy. By that logic, every book longer than a fortune cookie is a coping mechanism. I suppose War and Peace is just Tolstoy spiraling publicly.
Let’s take your reply apart gently, like a watch that already stopped ticking.
You say “my first point proves your point” because “sheep can be led by a rhythmic bell.” That’s not a rebuttal, that’s you accidentally agreeing that rhythm is powerful and memorable, which was the entire point. You’ve managed to call human cognition livestock behavior and then act like you scored something. If rhythm influencing memory makes people sheep, then congratulations, every culture on earth has been a barnyard since the invention of drums.
Then we get “word salad devoid of logic,” which is always the refuge of someone who didn’t actually identify a logical error. It’s the debate equivalent of flipping the chessboard and declaring the pieces were arranged suspiciously. If there’s a fallacy, name it. Otherwise, it just sounds like you got lost halfway through and blamed the map.
The “high horse” and “white knight” lines are doing a lot of heavy lifting for arguments that never showed up. It’s just aesthetic criticism of tone. You didn’t refute the point about misusing readability metrics. You didn’t touch the distinction between written prose and lyrical composition. You didn’t engage the example of layered writing in artists like Kendrick Lamar. You just waved your hand and said “snark,” like that settles anything.
And the “ascending number points, quite cliché” jab is especially funny. Structure is now a vice? Next you’ll accuse paragraphs of elitism and punctuation of systemic oppression. Organization isn’t a flaw. It’s what arguments look like when they’re house-trained.
Your response is less a counterargument and more a fog machine. Lots of atmosphere, very little substance. You didn’t dismantle anything. You just complained about how it sounded while quietly sidestepping what it said. That’s not a rebuttal.
Try harder. You can do it.
You're fun at parties, bumpkin.
I should be. I threw some of the biggest ones in the southwest through the late 90's through 2010.
Any other personal attacks you want to throw my way? Given enough chances you may just get one right
It was a joke, hence the "to be fair" bit.
You're taking this far too seriously, hence "you're fun at parties" bit.
And also-like I give a shit you threw parties.
😂 nice try at moonwalking it back.
"iTwAsAjOkE" Right. I totally believe you.
You gave enough of a shit to tell me you don't give a shit.
Do better.
Nice sliding by the way.
If I wanted to slide, I'd just post an inane accusation, such as yours.
I wasn’t referring to you. I was taking about the disco queen.