"This may be the most corrupt thing I’ve ever heard in my life
A Democrat federal judge made it illegal for Republicans to be poll watchers since the 80’s. Democrats have been renewing the injunction every 5 years. This only ended in 2020
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“Something else people don't know is that start in the mid-1980s, there was a federal district court judge in New Jersey, who entered a consent decree that Republicans could not be poll watchers. So from mid-80’s until 2020, Republicans were not allowed to be poll watchers on these national elections.
And what happened was that judge eventually died and the Democrats, the DNC, they had to go get that injunction renewed every 5-8 years, something along those lines.
And when that judge died, he was replaced by an Obama judge, and they went back to that judge and they said, we want this consent decree in place making so Republicans cannot be poll watchers and cannot be a part of this process.
And he said, what in the heck are you talking about? This is absolutely so unconstitutional. And he refused to renew that consent decree. He refused to renew that injunction.
So 2020 was one of the first years that we had professional Republican poll watchers in these elections to see what was going on in Atlanta, in Detroit, in Milwaukee, in, you know, in in Philadelphia. It was the first time we were able to really see what was going on in these polling places.
What that tells me is that probably a lot of these shenanigans were been going on for a long, long time, but there were no Republicans there to report on it.”
Our elections have always been rigged by Democrats"
Walstreet Apes and a myriad of others on X.com do a disservice to the readers by regularly leaving out vital information. This is congresswoman Harriet Hageman from Wyoming making this statement/claim. Not some wild "conspiracy theorist." I know most frogs probably know this, but in case we've got some newbies around. And also, it would be nice for anybody on X to claw back at this type of post and demand the full info.
That claim is a mix of historical fact and some significant legal misunderstandings.
There was indeed a long-standing "consent decree" involving the Republican National Committee, but it didn't actually "ban" them from having poll watchers.
Here is the breakdown of what really happened:
The Origin: 1981 and 1982
The situation began after the 1981 New Jersey gubernatorial election. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) sued the RNC, alleging that a "National Ballot Security Task Force" had engaged in voter intimidation.
This included hiring off-duty police officers to patrol polling sites in minority neighborhoods while wearing armbands and questioning voters.
To settle the lawsuit without admitting guilt, the RNC signed a consent decree in 1982.
What the Decree Actually Said:
It is a common misconception that the decree banned Republican poll watchers.
In reality:
Poll Watching was Allowed:
Republicans were still legally allowed to have poll watchers at the polls, just like any other party.
The Restriction: The decree specifically barred the RNC from engaging in "ballot security" activities (like "voter caging" or off-duty police patrols) that were deemed to be voter intimidation.
Court Pre-clearance: If the RNC wanted to run a national program related to "ballot security," they often had to get it cleared by the court first.The Timeline and the JudgeThe decree didn't need to be "renewed" every few years by the DNC; rather, it was permanent unless the RNC could prove to the court it was no longer necessary.
The Judge: U.S. District Judge Dickinson Debevoise did oversee the case for over 30 years (he passed away in 2015).
Updates: The decree was modified and extended several times (notably in 1987 and 2009) after further allegations of similar conduct.
The End: A judge finally allowed the decree to expire in early 2018 (not 2020), ruling that the DNC hadn't provided enough evidence of recent violations to keep it in place.
The "2020" Connection:
The reason people often associate this with 2020 is that the 2020 election was the first presidential election in nearly 40 years where the RNC was fully free from these specific court-ordered restrictions. This allowed the national party to be directly involved in recruiting and training poll watchers in a way they hadn't been since the Reagan era.
"Our elections have always been rigged by Democrats."
Yes, because that's the only way they can win. It also show how spineless the repukelicans are because they were well aware of the injunction and did nothing about it for 40 years.
"This may be the most corrupt thing I’ve ever heard in my life
A Democrat federal judge made it illegal for Republicans to be poll watchers since the 80’s. Democrats have been renewing the injunction every 5 years. This only ended in 2020
READ THAT AGAIN
“Something else people don't know is that start in the mid-1980s, there was a federal district court judge in New Jersey, who entered a consent decree that Republicans could not be poll watchers. So from mid-80’s until 2020, Republicans were not allowed to be poll watchers on these national elections.
And what happened was that judge eventually died and the Democrats, the DNC, they had to go get that injunction renewed every 5-8 years, something along those lines.
And when that judge died, he was replaced by an Obama judge, and they went back to that judge and they said, we want this consent decree in place making so Republicans cannot be poll watchers and cannot be a part of this process.
And he said, what in the heck are you talking about? This is absolutely so unconstitutional. And he refused to renew that consent decree. He refused to renew that injunction.
So 2020 was one of the first years that we had professional Republican poll watchers in these elections to see what was going on in Atlanta, in Detroit, in Milwaukee, in, you know, in in Philadelphia. It was the first time we were able to really see what was going on in these polling places.
What that tells me is that probably a lot of these shenanigans were been going on for a long, long time, but there were no Republicans there to report on it.”
Our elections have always been rigged by Democrats"
https://nitter.net/i/status/1901861862708523120
The only way they can win. Makes sense the US has been going downhill since the 80's.
That should have gone to the SC.
that would have required someone to appeal it, no? interesting that no one di in all those years. very telling
Absolutely correct, plus it never was even brought to our attention.
Walstreet Apes and a myriad of others on X.com do a disservice to the readers by regularly leaving out vital information. This is congresswoman Harriet Hageman from Wyoming making this statement/claim. Not some wild "conspiracy theorist." I know most frogs probably know this, but in case we've got some newbies around. And also, it would be nice for anybody on X to claw back at this type of post and demand the full info.
This isn't true at all.
That claim is a mix of historical fact and some significant legal misunderstandings.
There was indeed a long-standing "consent decree" involving the Republican National Committee, but it didn't actually "ban" them from having poll watchers.
Here is the breakdown of what really happened:
The Origin: 1981 and 1982 The situation began after the 1981 New Jersey gubernatorial election. The Democratic National Committee (DNC) sued the RNC, alleging that a "National Ballot Security Task Force" had engaged in voter intimidation.
This included hiring off-duty police officers to patrol polling sites in minority neighborhoods while wearing armbands and questioning voters.
To settle the lawsuit without admitting guilt, the RNC signed a consent decree in 1982.
What the Decree Actually Said:
It is a common misconception that the decree banned Republican poll watchers.
In reality:
Poll Watching was Allowed: Republicans were still legally allowed to have poll watchers at the polls, just like any other party.
The Restriction: The decree specifically barred the RNC from engaging in "ballot security" activities (like "voter caging" or off-duty police patrols) that were deemed to be voter intimidation.
Court Pre-clearance: If the RNC wanted to run a national program related to "ballot security," they often had to get it cleared by the court first.The Timeline and the JudgeThe decree didn't need to be "renewed" every few years by the DNC; rather, it was permanent unless the RNC could prove to the court it was no longer necessary.
The Judge: U.S. District Judge Dickinson Debevoise did oversee the case for over 30 years (he passed away in 2015).
Updates: The decree was modified and extended several times (notably in 1987 and 2009) after further allegations of similar conduct.
The End: A judge finally allowed the decree to expire in early 2018 (not 2020), ruling that the DNC hadn't provided enough evidence of recent violations to keep it in place.
The "2020" Connection:
The reason people often associate this with 2020 is that the 2020 election was the first presidential election in nearly 40 years where the RNC was fully free from these specific court-ordered restrictions. This allowed the national party to be directly involved in recruiting and training poll watchers in a way they hadn't been since the Reagan era.
Am I not reading this correctly? Is this limited to NJ?
I have been a registered republican all my voting life.
I have also served as a poll watcher in national elections in the great state of Florida, multiple times.
Insanity that we put up with that!
Old news, but a wakeup call to those who hadn't seen it before and a good reminder for those who saw it the first time.01
"Our elections have always been rigged by Democrats."
Yes, because that's the only way they can win. It also show how spineless the repukelicans are because they were well aware of the injunction and did nothing about it for 40 years.
Which brings up the obvious question. Why didn't the RNC do something about it. Unfreaking believable.