Sadly its been this way for years. The illegals have people who know how to scam the system. 20 years ago in suburban Chicago we witnessed immigrants (Eastern Euro variety) pull up to grocery stores in Cadillacs and Mercedes, and purchase their groceries with SNAP. And they knew they couldn't get alcohol, so they paid that separately with WADS of cash.
The SNAP system was built to be scammed. It's about as corrupt as voting, elections, "learing centers", etc. Sad for those who truly need it.
first I am on snap myself. retired with just social security. the thing that gets me mad about the program is the fact that in my state California . you can buy soda and candy with the program. the other thing that gets me mad is that the snap program can be spent at AM/PM and seven/eleven or other high cost places. I would love to see it treated like Wic where it is approved foods that can be bought at approved places. I use my stamps for things like rice beans, maybe some chicken or pork but it is survival food on my part. when I do get something like a treat it comes from what little cash I have.
I'm in the same boat. But in Oregon I only qualify for $24 worth per month. So I don't even bother applying. God has provided for all my needs thuthuar
I don't know how Wic is run now or if it is still available, but for a short time when my husband was in the military (we were young and had 2 toddlers at the time), we needed a little help, so we went on wic. At that time, they gave us vouchers to use, had specific foods we could buy & had dates to use them by. There was no way to use them to buy candy, soda & chips. I was so thankful to be able to get the food for my kids. Once we didn't need it anymore, we stopped it.
I don't understand why there are multiple food programs, why not just use the wic program? Even if it's a card or an account number used to buy things instead of paper vouchers, that way people can only buy the healthy staples, if they want junk food or anything else they can save up and buy it with their own money.
Yeah, in this small town I live in, I've seen a lot of mexicans not having a driver's license, yet they drive a lifted truck that looks like it's worth $100,000. When I walked into the gas station to buy snacks for a trip we were going on, I saw a mexican guy step out of a lifted truck, walked in the store to pay for gas as I was behind him in line and he pulled out a fat stack of cash to pay for gas. He had to use his phone to do the translating for him. He was dressed up like he came here from Mexico as he had a cowboy hat, dark jeans, buttoned up shirt and bolo necktie on with cowboy boots. At first, I thought he was a visitor but his truck had Ohio license plates with tags.
As someone who's struggling financially, it pisses me off that he's living the luxury life while there are Americans like me and others who are suffering big time.
My friend who works in a field related to construction, said he worked with a couple of mexicans and all of them don't have a driver's license, yet they drive cars like Cadillac, Bentleys and such. It's really unusual to see cars like that in this small town, where everyone else are driving normal, midsize cars, like Ford, Chevy and Dodge.
My daughter has 6 kids and one on the way, 3 girls are hers (and the little guy coming in a few months, lol) and the other 3 kids came into the family with her husband. Their mom lost custody of them.
My daughters oldest is 19 yrs old and mostly stays at her dads house because of the tight space now at her moms house. She's in college & works. The youngest child is 9 months old (my daughter's child with her husband). My daughter can't work because of all the kids & it would be way more than she would earn to put a few in daycare. And the fact that school buses don't stop to pick up near their house and she has to drop 3 of them off at 3 different schools, then pick up after school. So, they rely only on her husband's pay. Their house that they rent is not good, and not in a good area, not much better than their last one tbh. Truthfully, it's scary visiting. It looks like right next to her rental property is swampy area, so back yard gets flooded when it rains and some mornings, she has to run off some wild pigs before they can get kids in the car for school.
She told me they are not on any help because they are told her husband makes too much money. I can tell you for a fact they have no money after bills are paid. They live in Fl, y'all know it's expensive there. Her husband is a mechanic working for a company doing odd jobs that need being done at job sites, along with fixing any company vehicles that break down. Thankfully his boss is extremely understanding & good to him.
My daughters second child (13 yrs old) started having heart problems that docs don't seem to know how to help her with. She misses so much school but still has good grades. Daughter had to go to a meeting at school to show them paperwork from the doctors that she isn't being truant, that she actually has a heart condition. Last time she was having an episode the damn nurse sent her back to class without calling her mother, next thing she's throwing up in the middle of class over and over, then they called her mom. I don't understand how she all of a sudden started having heart problems just in the last year or so. No, she didn't get any of the vaxxes or flu shots. None of them did.
I worked in health care and saw this kind of insanity every day. People, mostly immigrants, on public benefits living the high life. Driving newer luxury cars, wearing designer clothes and high end shoes, the whole family including 12 year olds sporting new iphones, having an attitude like the world owns them a life, and they bragged about voting in our elections. They treated myself and my staff like crap and were unashamedly very ungrateful and arrogant. They never missed an opportunity to bash the very country providing them with the lifestyle they had and called us stupid for allowing them to continue to get away with it. It was sickening. We are done. Go back to the shithole they came from.
Sec Rollins says, “We need to defend our nutrition programs for those most in need, not for scammers gaming the system.” This is a typical socialist statement from someone who thinks it’s OK to STEAL money from people who get off their asses and work, and then give money to people who sit on their asses and don’t work. I claim BS. No welfare of any kind. No stealing money from one group of people to give to another. “If you don’t work, then neither shall you eat.” The apostle Paul said that. Hunger is a great motivator.
My mom did some volunteer work at the local food bank after she retired. She quit after a couple months because of the amount of people pulling in with brand new luxury cars was apparently ridiculous. Many dressed she said like they were going to church. She told me she had better things to do than volunteer her time to hand out free stuff to people living far better than she ever has.
Come to where I live. If youre black you drive a high end car. Houses are $600-$800k plus taces $10k-$18k. This is considered middle class. Its the same exact patterns that I saw in 2008. The monthly nut for a 30yr mtg with taxes & utilities is about $6,000/mnt. Add in the high end car @ $800/month plus insurance.
I'm on SNAP and I drive a 26 year old Buick. I also work very hard doing yard makeovers. Most everyone in California is on SNAP because there are no decent paying jobs available. I finally went out on my own doing yard work to pay my bills.
SNAP should be completely eliminated. The same for all forms of welfare. This is not a power delegated to government.
“We must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not attempt to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right as individuals to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money.” ~ Davy Crockett (1786-1836) American hunter, frontiersman, soldier and politician
1827, spoken on the floor of Congress concerning a proposed relief bill for the widow of a naval officer.
“I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.” ~ Grover Cleveland (1837-1908) 22nd & 24th US President, mayor and governor in New York state
In 1887 when vetoing an appropriation to help drought-stricken counties in Texas
“Legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways; hence, there are an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, bonuses, subsidies, incentives, the progressive income tax, free education, the right to employment, the right to profit, the right to wages, the right to relief, the right to the tools of production, interest free credit, etc., etc. And it the aggregate of all these plans, in respect to what they have in common, legal plunder, that goes under the name of socialism.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848
Essays, 61
“But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848
"The Law" by Frederic Bastiat (1848)
“Repeal that [welfare] law, and you will soon see a change in their manners. ... Six days shalt thou labor, though one of the old commandments long treated as out of date, will again be looked upon as a respectable precept; industry will increase, and with it plenty among the lower people; their circumstances will mend, and more will be done for their happiness by inuring them to provide for themselves, than could be done by dividing all your estates among them.” ~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) US Founding Father
On the Price of Corn, and Management of the Poor, London Chronicle, November 29, 1766
“Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
“To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
Note in Tracy's "Political Economy," 1816
“The Care therefore of every man's Soul belongs unto himself, and is to be left unto himself. But what if he neglect the Care of his Soul? I answer, What if he neglects the Care of his Health, or of his Estate, which things are nearlier related to the Government of the Magistrate than the other? Will the magistrate provide by an express Law, That such an one shall not become poor or sick? Laws provide, as much as is possible, that the Goods and Health of Subjects be not injured by the Fraud and Violence of others; they do not guard them from the Negligence or Ill-husbandry of the Possessors themselves.” ~ John Locke (1632-1704) English philosopher and political theorist
A Letter Concerning Toleration [1689], Edited and Introduced by James H. Tully (Hacklett Publishing Company, 1983), p. 35
“With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
1792, in disapproval of Congress appropriating $15,000 to assist some French refugees
Sadly its been this way for years. The illegals have people who know how to scam the system. 20 years ago in suburban Chicago we witnessed immigrants (Eastern Euro variety) pull up to grocery stores in Cadillacs and Mercedes, and purchase their groceries with SNAP. And they knew they couldn't get alcohol, so they paid that separately with WADS of cash.
The SNAP system was built to be scammed. It's about as corrupt as voting, elections, "learing centers", etc. Sad for those who truly need it.
In just ONE state, 14,000 individuals receiving SNAP benefits were driving LUXURY VEHICLES!
🚗 3 Bentleys 🚗 3 Ferraris 🚗 11 Lamborghinis 🚗 59 Maseratis 🚗 141 Porsches 🚗 244 Alfa Romeos 🚗 306 Land Rovers 🚗 2,098 Teslas
And this is just in ONE STATE. We need to defend our nutrition programs for those most in need, not for scammers gaming the system.
These individuals are taking advantage of the American taxpayer. And together with @ VP ’s Task Force to Eliminate Fraud, this ends NOW.
4.3M Americans have been moved off of SNAP — but more work to be done!
https://x.com/SecRollins/status/2049131612835586505?s=20
first I am on snap myself. retired with just social security. the thing that gets me mad about the program is the fact that in my state California . you can buy soda and candy with the program. the other thing that gets me mad is that the snap program can be spent at AM/PM and seven/eleven or other high cost places. I would love to see it treated like Wic where it is approved foods that can be bought at approved places. I use my stamps for things like rice beans, maybe some chicken or pork but it is survival food on my part. when I do get something like a treat it comes from what little cash I have.
I'm in the same boat. But in Oregon I only qualify for $24 worth per month. So I don't even bother applying. God has provided for all my needs thuthuar
I don't know how Wic is run now or if it is still available, but for a short time when my husband was in the military (we were young and had 2 toddlers at the time), we needed a little help, so we went on wic. At that time, they gave us vouchers to use, had specific foods we could buy & had dates to use them by. There was no way to use them to buy candy, soda & chips. I was so thankful to be able to get the food for my kids. Once we didn't need it anymore, we stopped it.
I don't understand why there are multiple food programs, why not just use the wic program? Even if it's a card or an account number used to buy things instead of paper vouchers, that way people can only buy the healthy staples, if they want junk food or anything else they can save up and buy it with their own money.
Yeah, in this small town I live in, I've seen a lot of mexicans not having a driver's license, yet they drive a lifted truck that looks like it's worth $100,000. When I walked into the gas station to buy snacks for a trip we were going on, I saw a mexican guy step out of a lifted truck, walked in the store to pay for gas as I was behind him in line and he pulled out a fat stack of cash to pay for gas. He had to use his phone to do the translating for him. He was dressed up like he came here from Mexico as he had a cowboy hat, dark jeans, buttoned up shirt and bolo necktie on with cowboy boots. At first, I thought he was a visitor but his truck had Ohio license plates with tags.
As someone who's struggling financially, it pisses me off that he's living the luxury life while there are Americans like me and others who are suffering big time.
My friend who works in a field related to construction, said he worked with a couple of mexicans and all of them don't have a driver's license, yet they drive cars like Cadillac, Bentleys and such. It's really unusual to see cars like that in this small town, where everyone else are driving normal, midsize cars, like Ford, Chevy and Dodge.
My daughter has 6 kids and one on the way, 3 girls are hers (and the little guy coming in a few months, lol) and the other 3 kids came into the family with her husband. Their mom lost custody of them.
My daughters oldest is 19 yrs old and mostly stays at her dads house because of the tight space now at her moms house. She's in college & works. The youngest child is 9 months old (my daughter's child with her husband). My daughter can't work because of all the kids & it would be way more than she would earn to put a few in daycare. And the fact that school buses don't stop to pick up near their house and she has to drop 3 of them off at 3 different schools, then pick up after school. So, they rely only on her husband's pay. Their house that they rent is not good, and not in a good area, not much better than their last one tbh. Truthfully, it's scary visiting. It looks like right next to her rental property is swampy area, so back yard gets flooded when it rains and some mornings, she has to run off some wild pigs before they can get kids in the car for school.
She told me they are not on any help because they are told her husband makes too much money. I can tell you for a fact they have no money after bills are paid. They live in Fl, y'all know it's expensive there. Her husband is a mechanic working for a company doing odd jobs that need being done at job sites, along with fixing any company vehicles that break down. Thankfully his boss is extremely understanding & good to him.
My daughters second child (13 yrs old) started having heart problems that docs don't seem to know how to help her with. She misses so much school but still has good grades. Daughter had to go to a meeting at school to show them paperwork from the doctors that she isn't being truant, that she actually has a heart condition. Last time she was having an episode the damn nurse sent her back to class without calling her mother, next thing she's throwing up in the middle of class over and over, then they called her mom. I don't understand how she all of a sudden started having heart problems just in the last year or so. No, she didn't get any of the vaxxes or flu shots. None of them did.
I worked in health care and saw this kind of insanity every day. People, mostly immigrants, on public benefits living the high life. Driving newer luxury cars, wearing designer clothes and high end shoes, the whole family including 12 year olds sporting new iphones, having an attitude like the world owns them a life, and they bragged about voting in our elections. They treated myself and my staff like crap and were unashamedly very ungrateful and arrogant. They never missed an opportunity to bash the very country providing them with the lifestyle they had and called us stupid for allowing them to continue to get away with it. It was sickening. We are done. Go back to the shithole they came from.
Sec Rollins says, “We need to defend our nutrition programs for those most in need, not for scammers gaming the system.” This is a typical socialist statement from someone who thinks it’s OK to STEAL money from people who get off their asses and work, and then give money to people who sit on their asses and don’t work. I claim BS. No welfare of any kind. No stealing money from one group of people to give to another. “If you don’t work, then neither shall you eat.” The apostle Paul said that. Hunger is a great motivator.
Well said.
My mom did some volunteer work at the local food bank after she retired. She quit after a couple months because of the amount of people pulling in with brand new luxury cars was apparently ridiculous. Many dressed she said like they were going to church. She told me she had better things to do than volunteer her time to hand out free stuff to people living far better than she ever has.
Well at least 11 of those frauds have great taste.....
Come to where I live. If youre black you drive a high end car. Houses are $600-$800k plus taces $10k-$18k. This is considered middle class. Its the same exact patterns that I saw in 2008. The monthly nut for a 30yr mtg with taxes & utilities is about $6,000/mnt. Add in the high end car @ $800/month plus insurance.
I'm on SNAP and I drive a 26 year old Buick. I also work very hard doing yard makeovers. Most everyone in California is on SNAP because there are no decent paying jobs available. I finally went out on my own doing yard work to pay my bills.
I love Our Cabinet.
SNAP should be completely eliminated. The same for all forms of welfare. This is not a power delegated to government.
“We must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not attempt to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right as individuals to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of congress we have no right to appropriate a dollar of the public money.” ~ Davy Crockett (1786-1836) American hunter, frontiersman, soldier and politician 1827, spoken on the floor of Congress concerning a proposed relief bill for the widow of a naval officer.
“I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.” ~ Grover Cleveland (1837-1908) 22nd & 24th US President, mayor and governor in New York state In 1887 when vetoing an appropriation to help drought-stricken counties in Texas
“Legal plunder can be committed in an infinite number of ways; hence, there are an infinite number of plans for organizing it: tariffs, protection, bonuses, subsidies, incentives, the progressive income tax, free education, the right to employment, the right to profit, the right to wages, the right to relief, the right to the tools of production, interest free credit, etc., etc. And it the aggregate of all these plans, in respect to what they have in common, legal plunder, that goes under the name of socialism.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848 Essays, 61
“But how is this legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one citizen at the expense of another by doing what the citizen himself cannot do without committing a crime.” ~ Frederic Bastiat (1801-1850) [Claude Frederic Bastiat] French economist, statesman, and author. He did most of his writing during the years just before -- and immediately following -- the French Revolution of February 1848 "The Law" by Frederic Bastiat (1848)
“Repeal that [welfare] law, and you will soon see a change in their manners. ... Six days shalt thou labor, though one of the old commandments long treated as out of date, will again be looked upon as a respectable precept; industry will increase, and with it plenty among the lower people; their circumstances will mend, and more will be done for their happiness by inuring them to provide for themselves, than could be done by dividing all your estates among them.” ~ Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) US Founding Father On the Price of Corn, and Management of the Poor, London Chronicle, November 29, 1766
“Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President
“To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association -- the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” ~ Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father, drafted the Declaration of Independence, 3rd US President Note in Tracy's "Political Economy," 1816
“The Care therefore of every man's Soul belongs unto himself, and is to be left unto himself. But what if he neglect the Care of his Soul? I answer, What if he neglects the Care of his Health, or of his Estate, which things are nearlier related to the Government of the Magistrate than the other? Will the magistrate provide by an express Law, That such an one shall not become poor or sick? Laws provide, as much as is possible, that the Goods and Health of Subjects be not injured by the Fraud and Violence of others; they do not guard them from the Negligence or Ill-husbandry of the Possessors themselves.” ~ John Locke (1632-1704) English philosopher and political theorist A Letter Concerning Toleration [1689], Edited and Introduced by James H. Tully (Hacklett Publishing Company, 1983), p. 35
“With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President
“I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on the objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.” ~ James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President 1792, in disapproval of Congress appropriating $15,000 to assist some French refugees