I like a lot of what Trump is doing (though I don't particularly care for any efforts that continue to send money overseas). I like a lot of what Massie says and that he seems very "America First"-oriented. Even JD Vance in much of his public rhetoric/talking points seems to sympathize with American fatigue with foreign aid.
So... what the heck is the deal with Trump vs. Massie? I've even heard that Pete Heg. is opting to help campaign against Massie (which is illegal, I think)?
Is Massie secretly Hitler or something? Please help me understand this.
One thing that is happening, Americans aregetting a first hand view of how brazen and powerful the Israeli/Jewish lobby is in the USA. Considering Jews represent about 2% of the Population
I mean, this would be an interesting "5D chess move" if this was Trump's intention, but it just seems weird for Trump to NOT be on Massie's side on the very things they "fight" about.
Agreed.
This shows how much the dumocrats appreciate massie:
Stephen Miller @StephenM Khanna is among the most radically liberal anti-MAGA extremists to be found in all of Congress. This is the equivalent of being endorsed by Rachel Maddow. Quote Ro Khanna @RoKhanna · May 14 Thomas Massie is a man of character. He is the type of Congressman our founders envisioned. I hope his constituents will see the courage, independence and sincere love of country he brings to the job. https://nytimes.com/2026/05/14/opinion/thomas-massie-trump-republicans.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share via @NYTOpinion
That sounds like an association fallacy on Stephen's part
JD Vance explains why Thomas Massie is no good for the GOP.
"Voting against the party on every single issue. You're eventually going to make too many enemies. It's not one issue or 3 issues it's every single issue. Every time we've needed Thomas for a vote he has been unwilling to provide it"
"When you always vote against the party, you can't expect the party to back you" https://x.com/JayTC53/status/2056100107087487311
Politicians are meant to serve the people not the party.
Why does massie miss that point most every time... what has he done for the Save America Act for example. I asked Grok...
No, Massie has not publicly railed against Senate Majority Leader John Thune over the SAVE Act. The main roadblock is in the Senate, where the bill has faced filibuster threats and insufficient votes for aggressive maneuvers (like a talking filibuster). Thune has cited math/reality on votes and preferred a standard floor fight rather than rule changes.
thehill.com
A group of ~24 House conservatives has pressured Thune with threats to block Senate bills until SAVE passes.
foxnews.com
Massie is not prominently listed as a leader in those efforts. Massie has criticized Thune in the past on unrelated issues (e.g., pro forma sessions to block recess appointments in 2025), but nothing specific tying him to blocking SAVE in recent statements.
@RepThomasMassie
Bottom line: Massie supports the substance of the bill and has voted for it, but his libertarian-leaning style (process concerns, limited government consistency) means he hasn't gone all-in on the kind of hardball tactics some want to ram it through. The Senate (Thune's domain) remains the bigger hurdle, with Trump and others applying more direct pressure there.
None of this is really important. All we need to know is that he publically disobeyed President Trump for his own agenda and we, the people, cannot let that slide.
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/meet-the-muslim-american-businessman-bankrolling-squad-dems-anti-aipac-outfits-and-marjorie-taylor-greene-and-thomas-massie/
With the investigation of Soros, Trump could have some massive dirt on Gallrein to the point that it doesn't matter. If that's the case, this whole fiasco is definitely waking people up as to who (the silent thieves) are.
Calling Galrein "Central Casting" is just icing on the cake.
I wouldn't put it past Trump given how he has also endorsed Thune, who then went on to sit on the SAVE AMERICA act.
Some solid critical thinking Fren.
I fully believe they underreport their numbers. They all have at least 4 kids each, how could they still be the same percentage of the population for so long?
Massey revealed who controls our lawmakers.
MASSIE EXPOSES AIPAC AS FOREIGN AGENT [2026-05-16] - AFTER THE UNIFORM (VIDEO)
https://www.bitchute.com/video/mXKBLXRGnIBE/?list=notifications&randomize=false
Something about a Black Kettle... :
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/meet-the-muslim-american-businessman-bankrolling-squad-dems-anti-aipac-outfits-and-marjorie-taylor-greene-and-thomas-massie/
The money behind "de-seating him" in his congressional race is certainly interesting... already pacing as the most expensive of its kind.
Just scroll down the headlines; you'll see. He's all hat, no cattle.
https://greatawakening.win/search?params=massie&community=GreatAwakening
Big one recently was to vote against Operation Epic Fury. (Autocorrect really wanted Operation Epic Furry, which might have gotten his support...) But there were a few others before that.
His reasoning for that was grounded in the condition. If America needs to do to war, fine, but do it the right way. Inform congress, get a vote to go to war, then act. Calling it a "military maneuver" just sounds like a paper-thin excuse to do whatever the heck you want regardless of what the constitution requires.
I just picked one of the recent ones where he went against Trump; there's a bunch more. Just go down the list. All of them have reasonable-sounding arguments, but all of them go against strong Trump policies. That's what the beef is about: on big issues Massie has frequently sided against Trump. Of course he makes it sound principled: he's a politician. But the voting record is what counts, and Trump doesn't like it
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/the-principles-of-thomas-massie/
The good people of Kentucky have never voted for Massie because Trump instructed them to, and it’s doubtful they’ll pull their support now. For in Massie is a premise and a promise not often found amongst the traders and fame-hounds who occupy our Congress—a man of principle. A politician who believes in the substance of the ideas he put forward on the campaign trail.
Principle ?
https://freebeacon.com/democrats/meet-the-muslim-american-businessman-bankrolling-squad-dems-anti-aipac-outfits-and-marjorie-taylor-greene-and-thomas-massie/
Who knows? With central castling like this there are kayfabes within kayfabes. Remember the Musk beef, … and MTG, Massie, now Bobbert-
Maybe Spaceforce gets the signal, Dictating threat levels
Sometimes the frontline needs R N R
The only thing that goes against massie is his voting record and that's what matters right?
Doesn't his voting record coincide with what Republicans want like... 97% of the time? ... only varying to vote against foreign aid and protecting predators?
I'm only going from sporadic memory of him voting against Republicans on some serious bills. When Trump said he votes against the best republican values that rung a bell forgive me you could be right. I posed it as a question for this reason lol
3% against is still AGAINST.
That doesn't matter. He has publically disobeyed President Trump, so he needs to be removed. You can't go against your party leader and expect to be supported by the party. He needs to be removed.
I think he (Massie) first came to light during one of the omnibus bills. He's a 100%-er. The bill in question basically gave conservatives about 95-99% of what (we) wanted for the government to fund. Massie voted against it because, I believe, it raised the debt ceiling. He's been battling conservatives ever since.
This ties back into other issues that even conservatives and Republicans have often complained about, just vote on one thing at a time! The whole strategy of smashing a bunch of stuff into a bill in order to get at least some of what you want is largely counter-productive in the long term and hyper complicates our laws.
And Congress will never do that because they ALL want their little earmarks.
Because the politicians already work too hard for the people?
He’s not America first, he’s Massie first.
What do you mean?
The NO votes against party were pretty negatively impactful...
Votes against tax cuts, against the border wall, against military and law‑enforcement funding, and against major Trump‑backed spending packages.
Massie is all talk.
A true LINO (libertarian)
As soon as REAL change shows up (in the form of Trump), he shows that he’s really a democrat.
Hope that helps.
... what? Do you have any examples to help illustrate this? The only things I'm aware of that Massie opposes on Trump's side are: going to war without Congressional approval, sending money overseas, and protecting predators (Trump has been strange off and on regarding the whole Epstein debacle since the start of his second term)
ENJOY:
And NO I didn’t create this post, so you can forget about deflecting on that point.
I’ll look for your point-by-point rebuttal on this thread (haven’t seen ya yet)
https://greatawakening.win/p/1ASsUUvrR1/orbital-view-weighing-in-on-the-/
Thank you, it was enjoyable. I might've missed it otherwise.
Big Beautiful Bill maybe? 2 republicans voted NO on passing it and he was one of them.
Good Cop Bad Cop for exposure?
NEVER try to get a verdict on KAYFABE, Just observe it UNTIL you get it!
So far as I can tell Massie is probably just simple controlled opposition likely funded by Israel or whoever really runs that country.
I mean why wouldn’t they create a movement full of puppets who will call out Israel in order to get voters to trust them? The only possible way they’re going to get average voters who are right of center onto the TDS wavelength is to say the right things and SOUND like an a principled conservative while also leaning into that world.
Once they started coordinated pushes for “unity” it couldn’t be more clear that the goal here is to start a real official on the books uniparty that identifies as a grassroots movement of disgruntled voters.
Likely funded by Isreal? Doesn't a huge chunk of his opponent's money come from groups supportive of Isreal?
Massie received dirty money and is NOT AMERICA FIRST 👇 https://x.com/JamesHartline/status/2027906480196993081
Sounds like an association fallacy to me. Besides, how impossible is it to find a congressman who isn't "bought" by Jewish-related influence? By that standard, even Trump wouldn't pass his own litmus test from his early campaign days of "nobody owns me" because he's accepted quite a bit of money from notable sources since then.
This is the opposite of "Jew money" - it is in the link I found. Please open the x and LOOK at all the Mahrouq DIFFERENT FAMILY MEMBERS WHO CONTRIBUTED:
"Follow the money. Look at the campaign contributions of the antisemitic Jew hater Palestinian Democrat Mahrouq family. All of the voluminous campaign contributions by the Mahrouq family have gone to far-left Democrats, antisemitic, anti-Israel PACs and the antisemitic Jew hater Democrat members of the Jihad Squad in congress like Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Jamaal "Fire Marshal Bill" Bowman and Cori Bush, as well as rabidly antisemitic far-left extremist Cornel West, Hillary Clinton, Beto O'Rourke, Rohit "Ro" Khanna and the DNC.
So then, ask yourselves, why would the same antisemitic Jew hater Palestinian Democrat Mahrouq family pour $55,000 in campaign contributions into the 2026 re-election campaign of Thomas Massie?"
I dont understand myself, but after hearing the political ads Massie and Galrein run one of them is a liar.
Example: Massie says he stands with Trump on protecting the border, Galrein says Massie voted no on the border wall
here ya go, you can see for yourself. I’m in Texas so what I think doesn’t really matter. https://massie.house.gov/voterecord/
"Voted No on border wall". I don't think any of our bills are one issue bills yet, and I think Massie resists the notion of pushing through things you want with things you don't want. America can't have a clear vision of what it's politicians believe in if every bill is something like, "kick all the illegals out, but illegals are now permitted to Mail in vote from out of country"
SO... because he has a beef about multiple things in bills he will be Massie first not America first...
Yes We all want 1 topic votes... no that is just not the way (yet) If he would have played ball and enabled Trump to remove the corruption short term then the long term will take care of itself.
So he is Massie first, not America first.
Trump demands total loyalty. He always gets even.
Massie is less than 100% on the first.
Massie is subject to the second.
Trump does many things I don't like. Yet he has my loyalty. Who else is there that will do what needs to be done. When it comes to leaders to bring the world back from the brink. There can be only one. Fractures = failure.
What Trump is trying to accomplish. We can't have a splintered movement. I like Massie, but he is expendable. Trump is not. Trump is getting old; I pray his heir is up to the job.
Massie aims for loyalty to the constitution over loyalty to any particular government official. Congressional branch is SUPPOSED to be a checks and balance for the Executive, not subservient to it.
That's fine and all. But what we face, and what a "Plan to Save the World" requires....
... massie will not be the light that leads us to defeat the cabal/deep state.
I grapple with the fact to save us from servitude; we may not like the method nor the outcome.
After Trump, when the democrats take power. What do you think will happen. For massie to be a success, all would have to be like massie. In what universe is that possible? And if it were, we wouldn't be in the position we are in.
Virtually no one understands what the precipice means. It is going to be unbearable for most. Undesirable by all. We are nowhere near it. Our fight will outlive our President. This will be generational. Hope and pray for the men that come to power, are the men we need.
What heir? What dynasty? The days of royalty are long gone.
A twist of phrase. His replacement. The next leader to the "Plan".
I wrote that comment because to me, it has a very specific, deep meaning.