The last few days I had some pain, but it always got better.
But today I woke up and I suddenly felt really bad. My lymphs are swollen, I felt dizzy, can not concentrate. And fear is creeping in. If this can go so bad so quickly ... :-(
Thank you all from my heart.
P.S.: Can it be due the ivermectin? I took 36mg before and have now increased it to 48mg. Has anybody experience with such symptoms?
Dear Lord. Please see fit to heal and comfort your faithful warrior during this challenging time.
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Drink plenty of clear fluids, like water with a squeeze of lemon
Avoid dairy - ice cream, milk, cream, cream cheese, cottage cheese, ALL cheese
VERY IMPORTANT: The body has no pump for lymphatic fluid. The fluid is circulated ONLY by physical movement.
At the very least, try going for a walk - even if that's a few laps around the dining room table. This will move your lymph and hopefully assist in flushing out the toxins that are making you feel bad.
A vibration mat/machine os another way to stimulate lymph movement...
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Thank you, dear fren. Yes, I am already doing that. Lots of water and I am fasting today. Moving around in my flat from time to time, but was not out today due to the dizziness, perhaps tomorrow or I will try my best with a little walk this evening.
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I am brave, but that I won't try today. I skip the evening dosage, drink a lot of water, foot baths, fasting and tomorrow I will see whether it is better and whether I continue this cycle.
Before I only made cycles of 3x days Ivermectin 36mg then Hulda Clark formula and a pause. Now I wanted to make 5x days Ivermectin 48mg, but this is the 4th day.
Heel raise where you bump the floor will move things. A rebounder will work too.
They've got classes for that now...😁
You also need to take a binder if your taking ivermectin as well to flush out the toxins, That's most likely what is causing your problems.... I use Zeolite
I take zeolite as well, but cautiously, because it gave me constipation. Additionally right now I am taking a foot bath with epson salt kind of stuff.
Prayers sent. 🙏
3 years ago I had what I think was a Herxheimer reaction when I upped my IVM dosage. There are links in that old post that describe the typical symptoms.
Drink plenty of water and try to purge it your of your body.
Yes, that sounds true. My symptoms are different, overall there are parallels. Thank you, dear fren.
"Because of the sudden worsening of symptoms, it is common for patients to feel that the severity of their condition has increased due to the treatment. However, even though treatment causes a temporary increase in symptom intensity due to greater release of toxins the condition ultimately improves. The body responding in this way usually means that the treatment is actually working effectively."
Yes, it was scary, just like you quoted.
But all your fine Fren's in this thread are sharing excellent advice! 🐸
God Bless!
Yes, all the comments are so very helpful and help me a lot. I can't stand, laying and suffering, waiting to go the doctor who has no clue and will only ask what kind of prescription I wantt, painkiller, antibiotics, chemo, radiation. I always want solutions that i can do right now and that solve the problem at the root.
I'm not saying try it now since you aren't 100% sure what's going on, but check out all the posts about DMSO.
Lots of successful healing, pain relievers, and detoxing using that.
I'm 170 lbs and put 1.0 milliliters into a small glass of OJ and chug it. You will smell like you are hiding garlic in your cheeks for 12 - 18 hours, but I feel great afterwards.
Please research it first.
God Bless! 🙏
How long took it for you to get it out?
Back then I knew NOTHING compared to now, so it went on for six or seven days with minor relapses afterwards (Headache, jitters occasionally). But I was still having a morning fruit smoothie (sugar feeds parasites) and eating chips (carbs convert to sugar).
I've had no problems since then.
Seven days of that? That is horrific.
I switched nearly totally to no carb. Only ananas and red beet juice in smal quantities for the bromelain and other good stuff. And occasionally potatoes, rice and noodles as restricted starches cooked the day before and cooled for 12 hrs.
Yesterday I had two normal potatoes which were not restricted starches. But I don't think that this was the problem.
Food grade bentonite clay would work too, I believe. When I tried it, I did about 1/4 of what was suggested. Thought I could work up to more, but that seemed like plenty when I did it. Something like 1/2 t in 3 oz of water was what I did.
I am taking both ivermectin AND fenbendazole with no such side effects, maybe it's something else causing your symptoms. Either way, prayers for you, fren.
But what about the increased quantity? Also, OP might be smaller than you or something. Might be a factor.
Based on my body weight I am taking 60mg/day of Ivermectin and 680mg/day of fenbendazole.
Thank you for this feedback, dear Fren. And for the prayers.
I don't know, today we also had one those "man-made 5G weathers" which I always feel, but normally not so badly. Now, the wind is gone and I start to feel better. Or the prayers are already working. I don't know.
Thank you, fren. It ended 19th of June near to me in Kiel. That was approximately the time when my pains started and was coming and going in waves. The symptoms of today are totally new to me. Nevertheless that kind of weather always feels to me like electromagnetic interference. Strange wind turbulences, sky grey and mostly I don't want to go outside with that kind of weather.
Any idea how to protect against those warfare?
I have been feeling the exact same way. It’s wild, I have traveling pains throughout my body. I get waves of feeling out of it and then suddenly, like static has been turned off, I feel clarity. It goes back and forth like that throughout the day. I generally feel lousy. I’ve been dealing with this, like you said, for at least a couple weeks. I want to say it’s accession symptoms, or related to the solar weather, or somehow connected to CERN, but I’m also very fearsome and worry about the worst case scenario. My anxiety has been terrible and my teeth have been bothering me too. Ugh…
Yes, all of this might also be a factor. The last ten years I was very impacted by certain weather activities which felt not like normal ones. Usually it comes with strange windy/stormy situations and the sky totally grey and low. 5G or 6G activation?
Fear Not: 15 Bible Verses About Overcoming Fear
https://info.thecrossingchurch.com/blog/fear-not-15-bible-verses-about-overcoming-fear
Isaiah 41:13
For I am the Lord your God who takes hold of your right hand and says to you, Do not fear; I will help you.
These words help a lot as well as the link. Thank you, dear fren, for reminding me.
Your welcome, fren. You have both God and the anons on your side. 🙏
That is worth more than anything :-)
But your link is very good, I will look into it closer as soon as my brain lights up again.
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Try deep breathing exercises;
Breathing exercises to stay calm
Prayers said. Keep up in the loop and stay healthy 🫡🇺🇸
Thank you, dear fren.
Anxiety is taking over, like BurnNewHistoryBooks said, deep breathing and lots of prayers. 🙏🙏
Thank you, fren.
Everybody is different in how they react to cleansing. I think you are having what they call herxing effects. Might be a little too much ivermectin for your system. Flush your system really well. You can feel really lousy with the herxing, I mean very sick feeling. You might cut back until you feel better. I hope you have a better day tomorrow. May God give you strength to get through this.
Thank you, dear fren. I will do so.
Take some bile salts to alleviate some side effects like the fatigue you'll probably have.
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Thank you.
Praying now!!
Thank you, fren.
Prayers and for you, the swelling subsides and your healing can continue continues
Thank you, dear fren.
Praying for you friend!
Thank you, fren
I don't think so. Take 4000mg of oil of oregano x2 a day. Sounds bacterial with lymph nodes swollen You can get it at any health food store maybe rx stores too Prayers sent✝️
Thank you, fren.
Oil of oregano is great. Cured my husband of sibo. Small intestine bacteria overgrowth. Also changed to low FODMAP diet and he got over it.
May God bless you! Prayers!
Thank you, dear fren.
Prayers on the way fren.
Thank you, dear fren.
No problem,prayers are a very important part of what we do.
Unless you weigh 539lbs, you are overdosing. Not only that, but Ivermectin has a long enough half-life that you need to take a break every 3-4 days.
Please regroup and get with someone who knows safe dosages and binders, etc.
My favorite is Linda Sinclair with “Always Hope”. She can build a protocol tailored personally for you and has a free FB group where she gives enormous free advice.
A true angel on Earth, in my opinion.
Ivermectin, alone is not enough. And Ivermectin taken incorrectly can cause serious problems. Be well!
1.0 mg/kg would result in 60 mg for me. I took 48 mg, that is below the mark for my body weight. And most recommondation (Makis) cycle it 6 days on / 1 day off, but my cycle was 3 days on / 4 days off (infact the pause was longer for me). Now I did 4 days plus half dosage yesterday morning.
I take zeolte and supplements like curcumin, bromelain,vitamin c, ect.
So, you are saying that you are taking 1000 micrograms per kg?
That’s 5X the recommended dose of 200 micrograms per kg for parasites. Is that what Dr. Makis is prescribing?
It’s been a while since I did the research. Is there new data out to support the use of such a high dosage? Because it seems like overkill.
And hopefully, you are using TUDCA and milk thistle for liver support? And what about Fenbendazole?
It is 1mg/kg! Not 1000mg. - 1000mg woud equal in 1g !!!
I am saying I took 3x cycles of 36mg 3 days on/4 days off. Now I started a cycle with 48mg, 24mg in the morning and 24mg in the evening with my body weight 60 kg.
I take milk thistle. TUDCA is not known to me (I am in Germany). Fenbendazole is not available for me here.
Here is the makis protocol: https://x.com/rxmeds_store/status/2067299138711228843/photo/1
OK. My apologies.
My research was based upon the dosage of 200micrograms per kilogram.
Dr. Makis references a study showing safety up to 10X that dose.
At the small dose I tend to get blurry vision after a few days, so 10x seems strange to me.
But, I’m glad that the research is out there and working for people.
I still recommend that FB group, because it’s important to hit all of the pathways and to help your liver deal with apoptosis. Linda Sinclair has special software that she can run a protocol through and check for interactions and tell you what to take and when.
There are studies showing that Fenbendazole can cause anemia in animals, and maybe humans?
I’d say that if you are suddenly feeling bad, back it off a couple of notches and support your body with processing the dying cancer cells.
I would also recommend artemisia annua, graviola and dandelion root as three naturceuticals to take.
Thank you, fren. I don't get Fenbendazole easily here and I doubt it to be so good for my liver and kidneys. Hulda Clark formula is the equivalent and that I took on the days off with the ivermectin.
Yes, frequently I added dandelion root, cleavers, goutweed and until June I took Artemisia Annua before starting the ivermectin. Additional I take healing mushrooms curcumin, bromelain/papein, vitamin D, vitamin C, zinc, castor oil wraps. No carbs. Budwig protocol, a lot of broccoli, curd, linen oil, linen seeds.
I am fasting since yesterday morning when I felt incredibly bad, drinking a lot, epson salt like foot baths. I will back off from every thing til my lymphs feel better.
Please keep us updated. Praying for you!
Thank you, dear fren. I am feeling better than yesterday. But the lymphs are still swollen. I have fear that the cancer has spread and I am loosing hope.
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Thank you, fren.
Some are saying if you don’t take a binder with the Ivermectin then the parasites die releasing toxins and making you sick. My FIL has been taking it because taking care of his 92 yo father who had 6 boosters (he is pure blood) and was concerned about shedding. Well he has just been diagnosed with cancer that has spread to several organs and his spinal cord. There maybe something to it but so much unknown. I have seen black seed oil is a good binder. Praying for you and praying they release the cures before so many suffer. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I took zeolite, but due to constipation, I took it cautiously. I am also unvaxed, but my Mother and her partner got also colon cancer. My mother died 2024 and her partner now in January 2026. Soon after I was diagnosed. but I had already symptoms since late summer 2025.
And how is you FIL? Does he takes Ivermectin?