You know what else is round?
Agreed, I've always been wary of MTG. I remember her trying to defend while she still held Pfizer stock on Timcast. Was a major red flag.
Praying for you and your wife fren, stay strong.
This 100%. Anyone here asking for the government to pass an EO effectively banning secret societies, either A) isn't thinking it all the way through, or B) lacks vital critical thinking skills.
Yes Masons are corrupt. But to ask for the federal government to carry out an effective ban on "secret societies" is so damn foolish.
What is a secret society? What if the secret society was formed to purge all of the corruption in our country? Asking the federal government to solve any issue is something that should always be done with great care. Think of how an EO like this could be abused.
Do you trust the FBI in this though? They will frame people for the exact shit they are doing just to shut them down.
Then why did we just have a FE thread stickied?
He didn't. This is an old thread that was re-stickied for reasons..
Once again just showing how petty and closed minded they are. What's funny is they had a FE thread stickied yesterday, because it was dunking on a flat earther lolll. Rules for thee right? I guess they took some inspiration from our two tiered justice system.
Okay maybe not OP specifically, as I haven't seen his posts on the matter, nor did he present an opinion along with the post. However, I agree with you on the "it should be discussed part", but what you're missing is the open hypocrisy of the mods. Idk if you've noticed, but mods such as catsfive are very aggressive with mocking and banning people talking about this subject. Then the reasoning provided is, "This is a Q focused board" and to take these sorts of subjects to conspiracies.win.
Yet, in this case we have someone posting about the same exact topic, to a mainstream news source with the only major difference being that the source is mocking the flat earther viewpoint. However, instead of removing the post or issuing a ban because "This is a Q focused board", the post is instead stickied by a mod. That's outright hypocrisy. I don't think any case should result in a removal or a ban, and I damn sure don't think either case for or against should be stickied. I agree with you, it should be open for discussion.
"What would necessitate misinformation of the shape of the Earth?"
I already explained this. Even if Q believed the Earth to be flat, they gain no benefit by talking about it. It doesn't help serve the main purpose of the movement, and it only adds even more negative weight. Its the same thing with JFK Jr. being alive. Even if that theory were true, Q would gain no benefit and only negatives in perpetuating it. Because optics are something Q repeatedly said to be important.
I'm not claiming any belief in my comment. I am merely pointing out the issues of citing sources we'd normally hold suspect, just because they so happen to align with OP's preferred take on the matter.
Also you're creating a false dichotomy on an opinion you're assuming that I have. Even if I were to argue for the case of flat earth, that doesn't mean I can't believe Q. That is fucking absurd and lacks any sort of logical thinking.
Q also said misinformation is necessary. Q also had to be extremely smart and focused on what message they were transmitting. It would be tactically idiotic for Q to also promote flat earth even if they knew it to be true. That would only serve to drag down the movement and add another major point of detraction against them.
I think most are with this claim? It's just the orthodox believe the title of pope to be more honorary?
There is no scriptural basis on the position of a "pope" or for Peter being crowned in this position. The Orthodox Church holding a viewpoint of this is moot, because they come from the same rotten tree.
I think Catholics, orthodox, and protestants have all been affected by this kind of thing. So I don't see this as specifically something that stands out against Catholicism.
There is a major difference in being affected by, and having the central most piece of the movement being corrupted. Though, I'd argue it was corrupt from its inception.
I'm not aware of what you're referring to, although the Scripture was originally passed by oral tradition and literacy wasn't universal so it took some time for there to be a codified Scripture and for the common person to be able to read it, and there were concerns the Scripture would be misread or mistranslated so reading Scripture may not have been encouraged for the common person.
https://www.usccb.org/offices/new-american-bible/changes-catholic-attitudes-toward-bible-readings
For the majority of its existence it wasn't encouraged for people to read scripture for themselves. The concerns you list are almost the equivalent of our government discouraging us from reading the constitution, bill of rites, or any subject of law because we might misinterpret or misunderstand what we're reading. Yes literacy was lower then, but that is still not a suitable explanation. It was merely a method of control.
Typically even secular entities like companies or governments have a singular leader, whether it is a CEO or the POTUS. So it would make sense for the Church to have a singular leader, with Christ as the founder. Such entities also have hierarchies, like with government having local, state, and federal levels of hierarchy
Would you not say there is a difference between a King and a President? Or a King and Mayor? There are vast differences and implications in the power that they wield or the level of reverence that is involved. So to is the difference between your average Pastor and the Pope.
https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/vicar-of-christ
The way Catholics view the position of Pope or Vicar of Christ is entirely different than what your average non-denominational Christian would view a pastor. Not only is it entirely different, there is no biblical basis for it. Also, not only is there any biblical basis for it, it completely spits in the face of the very teachings Jesus himself.
To the contrary, I find protestantism's practice to be ahistorical. Both Catholic and orthodox observe to some extent what is mentioned, of having clergy and confession to a priest. A sinner is however encouraged to pray acts of contrition and to obtain perfect contrition for sin before God outside the confessional (but with the intent of confessing when possible).
And yet, there is still no biblical basis for this.
https://attleborocatholics.org/sacraments/sacrament-confession
Nor is there any biblical basis for the quoted reference from the Catechism of the Catholic Church here. There is no scriptural support for the need to obtain reconciliation for your sins because they are also "wounding by their sins". This is just another deceptive way to weave their tentacles in and demand their involvement.
Furthermore, it states that the priest will say the words of absolution acting in the person of Christ. Yet, there is no biblical authority bestowed upon any man to have these powers. I don't necessarily take qualms with discussing your sins with a pastor and praying to god for forgiveness in their presence, as well as seeking guidance. However, this should be a completely optional process and make no mistake that pastor has no authority to act as an intercessor of Christ to forgive your sins. That is 100% between you and Jesus.
For a millennium, I think people were allowed to marry and then become clergy.
True this wasn't mandated until 1123 AD, however it also implies that even before the decree it was widely practiced. The teachings of Paul are presented as an option and a reasoning for abstaining from marriage if you can. It is fine if someone chooses this path, but it is not biblical nor is it fine for it to be mandated to be ordained.
Would a comparable situation today be that of certain books that promote witchcraft or transgenderism to children?
Burning these books is an act of evil, but allowing these books to exist is not synonymous with promoting them to children. If we were to advocate for the destruction of these books then we'd be no better than the left. However, conservatives are not advocating for their destruction, instead they are protesting the education systems forcing these materials upon our children. Huge difference.
This has been done multiple times with a bunch of things, so it's not that they were trying to trick Christians in to observing pagan practices, but to transform pagan practices into Christian ones.
I don't even think this act in of itself is good, because you are still invoking the symbolism of the Pagan ritual it stems from. However, even we ignored that, this example with the saints acting as a form of replacement for the Roman pantheon is very different.
Catholics actually engage in prayers to these saints which is absolute blasphemy. There is no biblical argument for this act. These saints are normal humans and have no difference from you and I, and when they pass from this realm there is nothing they can do for you. It's even worse than praying to your ancestors for protection, this is more in line with a form of deification. Praying to Marry? Absolute blasphemy, she has no heavenly power to help you. There is one God to pray to and that is Jesus.
https://www.catholicdoors.com/prayers/english5/p03100.htm
However it's even worse than that. There are prayers for many of the saints for many different purposes. This prayer to the Blessed Anna Maria for example, hailing her as a "Queen of Heaven". Calling here the the Mother of divine piety, and calling on her power.
Or even worse, looking at this example of St. Isidore who is "the patron saint of farmers". And actually praying that through his intercession they can receive blessing for their crops.
Do you not see the connections and therein the issues here? This is disguised polytheism. They are doing the same things the Roman pagans did before them. They have gods or "saints" that are of a certain archetype, and then they pray to this "god" or "saint" to provide intercession based on their identity. Catholicism from its very core is a corrupted bastardization of Christianity. I don't relish in saying that, but I do want the truth to be prevail.
Hypocritical af if you ask me. This is still a flat earther post, just the opposite side of the argument. If flat earther comments warrant bans for mods like you and catsfive, then this should receive the same energy. "This is a Q board"... What a load of shit.
So we're trusting daily mail and Netflix as a source for deboonking now? Lolll what a fucking joke. The amount of cognitive dissonance here, just because you're chomping at the bits to slam dunk on something you find untrue.
It isn't though. I wasnt saying the act of engaging in an exorcism is ineffective. I was saying that it being rooted in the rites of the Catholic church was.
When you have to insult because you have no solid argument to make lol.
We all know that an appeal to popularity as a form of validation of truth is a great way to reason. Definitely hasn't misled anyone in the past. There's billions of people who trusted that their governments operated in their best interests throughout history, how did that turn out for them? Also, there's supposedly over 2 billion Muslims in the world, so does that make their worldview more sound than Catholicism?
Catholicism being the first Christian church is also a perfect example of the many lies of that religion. Constantine didn't legalize Christianity in the Roman empire till 313 AD. Did the original churches and congregations formed by the many disciples of Jesus not count? And please don't try to pass on the bull they feed you about Peter being the first pope.
There's a reason the Vatican is tied in with the Cabal, and no this is not a brand new occurrence. The Catholic church fundamentally is not rooted in scripture. Hell it's members weren't even encouraged to read scripture for themselves until the 1940's. The very idea of having a Pope and them acting as the Vicar of Christ is already pure blasphemy alone. The whole hierarchical nature is rotten to its core and isn't rooted anywhere in actual scripture. Purgatory, the practice of confession to a priest, even the practice of priesthood itself. All lacking biblical roots. The priesthood and the mandatory act of forbidding marriage is tied to pagan religions and not anything of Jesus.
What about the boy raping problem that has long plagued the Catholic church and the many cover-ups as a result? The Vatican is heavily involved in child trafficking. What about the Catholic church acting as the proto-Smithsonian and hoarding historical artifacts from all over the globe concealing this information from the people? Also, engaging in the act of book burning and destroying important historical information such as they did with the natives in the new world. What about the act of praying to the many different Saints? This was deliberately done to make the transition from the Roman polytheistic religion to Christianity more palatable.
I could go on and on and on about the atrocities of this dark religion and how so little of its practices are rooted in actual Christianity. It is on par with or almost as bad as the Morman cult. It could even arguably be worse because of how much power it has consolidated and the amount of damage it has caused globally. Just because we grow up with something or align ourselves spiritually with something doesn't make it right. The Great Awakening is more than just a political movement. To truly awaken the masses have to question their very own beliefs that they've held as sacred their entire lives. Jesus said the path is narrow my friend. 1.9 billion is quite wide if you ask me.
Really? I haven't looked into their financial background but that's disappointing. Oh well I don't drink Yuengling anyways, if I'm going to drink I typically support local craft brewers. These days I only drink a couple times a month at most though.
It was ineffective from the start. Catholicism itself is a sham that isn't rooted in true Christianity.
Nah. Jr. is way off on this one...
Ironically patriots.win was better and more based when it was on reddit kek.
I mean I didn't say they were perfect.