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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Just like you can prove flying and driving unsafe by selectively focusing on certain stats, you can do the same to prove Covid-19 is dangerous. And thats exactly what they did to push their vaxx, and u fell for it, even though u understood this technique.

Right. Both sides (of the argument) are playing the same game. So you can 'prove' the vax is dangerous, I can 'prove' Covid is dangerous. So ultimately, it comes down to a choice. I'm willing to go with the decision of literally millions of professional, independent doctors. Don't get me wrong - I HATE big pharma and don't trust them, but I do trust the medical profession as a whole because it is made up of individuals like you and me.

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IvanMectin 2 points ago +3 / -1

Will do. My g/f got the vax in Feb; my older friend got it in Jan. I got it in April. Most of my friends got it in April. I'll be sure to report back. Meanwhile I'll be enjoying international travel, fine dining, live sports, live concerts.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

There are a lot of people with a variety of agendas pushing negative stories about the vax. I could easily construct a similar narrative that would convince you that air travel is totally unsafe. Secret reports from Boeing, photos of crash sites, warped statistics. Heck, I could even do the same to convince you that driving is totally unsafe. Or eating meat. Or using shampoo. The fact is, literally millions of independent doctors around the world are in support of the vax. The only valid argument against it is that it is untried/untested; that I will accept. But misinterpreting VAERS data and showing 'tentacled monsters' in the vax doesn't cut it for me.

"Most Importantly" - the mantra of the anti-vax crowd here seems to be that we 'vaxxed' are 'living in fear'. This thread (and hundreds like it) are proof of the opposite - the unvaxxed are living in total fear of a harmless vaccine, while we 'vaxxed' are happily going about our lives taking full advantage of science and medicine.

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IvanMectin -4 points ago +1 / -5

I know I'm in a minority here, but I've had both Pfizer shots, and everyone I know has had it (family and friends). Not one person has experienced any issues, and no one is acting 'sketchy'. No one is second-guessing their decision. My g/f is scheduled for the booster next week. Everyone is grateful they got it, and is taking full advantage of the benefits. A good friend of mine is over 80 years old and just flew to London (from US) on vacation. After that she's off to Paris, then on a river cruise on the Rhone (all requiring the vax). Where I live, you need vax proof to enter restaurants and we are eating out all the time. So it's not an issue for me or anyone I know. If it's good enough for Trump, it's good enough for me.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Exactly - I don't disagree he lost money while President. All the more reason now for him to make up for it by soliciting donations. I suspect his biggest donors these days are patriots.

Actually, I suspect the business losing money during his presidency is not really related to his need/desire for political donations now; he wants to build a political 'machine' and he doesn't want to use his own money (smart man!) so he wants / needs solicitations, and the patriots are the best source for that.

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +2 / -1

People who won't vote for Trump will still not vote for him no matter what he says about 'QANON'. But if he distances himself from 'QANON' then he loses revenue source and voters. Trump could literally cure cancer and the MSM would not give him one iota of credit. So really, he gains nothing meaningful by distancing himself.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Trump gets a steady flow of revenue from dedicated patriots. Follow the money.

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +2 / -1

I don't see Trump leading anyone to the word of God!

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IvanMectin 4 points ago +4 / -0

I believe the first screenshot may be real, the second screenshot is fake. I tried to verify but the account is locked down. Easy to fake that second screenshot.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

Even before any vax was on the horizon, the range of reactions / outcomes to Covid have been anywhere from non-existent (asymptomatic) to death. Not unlike regular flu. So any one person's reaction is simply anecdotal evidence. What matters is statistically what are the outcomes, and unfortunately those stats are hotly disputed.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

By what means do you think a vaxed person can harm you?

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +2 / -1

Just last week I talked to a work colleague who got infected despite having the vax. He was out sick for 2 weeks and 'felt like crap'. But his brother also got infected, and was not vaxxed, and ended up in hospital for 19 days - 9 of them in ICU. Strongly suggests the vax has a purpose.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

If it doesn't stop you getting Covid, but it does reduce severity of response if you DO get it, why is that not a good thing? I don't see why that is an argument against the vax. Maybe similar to a seatbelt; if you are in an accident with a seatbelt, you may still break bones, etc - but you don't fly through the windscreen and get cut to pieces.

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +2 / -1

What's your take on 'The Economist'? I grew up reading that weekly mag and always found it excellent, but I stopped reading it quite a while back for various reasons (nothing to do with the content).

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is an old post now, but I wanted to follow up and essentially re-ask my question. I asked this:

Can you elaborate on just how this works, for say, Obama or Gates? If Obama were arrested, what does 'must remain active' mean? Are you saying Obama has been arrested but is being coerced into 'playing along' so as to prevent enemy countries from taking advantage? How about Gates? Are you suggesting they are being blackmailed?

Today, I caught an ad on TV for an interview with Obama about his new presidential library / museum. So here we have a situation were Obama is going on mainstream TV (Good Morning America, I think it was) to talk about his library, his legacy, etc. Is this consistent with your idea of him being 'arrested'? To me, he's doing what any ex-president does - make appearances. He also spoke out in favor of Newsom as part of the California recall. These don't sound consistent to me with being 'arrested', even in an abstract sense.

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IvanMectin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Actually, the 'crime' occurs at the moment someone tries to spend said dollars, but they don't typically actually 'verify' the bill when you spend it. I've seen a few fast-food joints in shady neighborhoods do a scan on $20 bills, but your typical business doesn't actually do any checks.

But that's not really my point; my point is, the dollars in your pocket may or may not be counterfeit; the ballots in AZ may or may not be counterfeit. Just because there were 'irregularities' does not mean every ballot was counterfeit, and any serious legal proceeding is going to have to validate (or invalidate) every single ballot, if that is the route taken. You can't just prove that, say, 20,000 ballots were counterfeit and say, "Trump won". There's a huge uphill battle ahead on this front.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

I know it's nothing new, but maybe we should remember this amusing but illuminating 'story' ...

A fellow was stuck on his rooftop in a flood. He was praying to God for help.

Soon a man in a rowboat came by and the fellow shouted to the man on the roof, "Jump in, I can save you."

The stranded fellow shouted back, "No, it's OK, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me."

So the rowboat went on.

Then a motorboat came by. "The fellow in the motorboat shouted, "Jump in, I can save you."

To this the stranded man said, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the motorboat went on.

Then a helicopter came by and the pilot shouted down, "Grab this rope and I will lift you to safety."

To this the stranded man again replied, "No thanks, I'm praying to God and he is going to save me. I have faith."

So the helicopter reluctantly flew away.

Soon the water rose above the rooftop and the man drowned. He went to Heaven. He finally got his chance to discuss this whole situation with God, at which point he exclaimed, "I had faith in you but you didn't save me, you let me drown. I don't understand why!"

To this God replied, "I sent you a rowboat and a motorboat and a helicopter, what more did you expect?"

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IvanMectin 4 points ago +5 / -1

If you have 100 actual, real dollars in your pocket right now, and you don't know if they are counterfeit or not, they are somewhat 'legit until proven otherwise'. So someone has to prove that those dollars are counterfeit, not just allege that they are.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

My understanding is, one of the reported issues is that there were votes cast by people not living at the address on file. Was quite a few - one of the bigger issues reported. But they didn't use official data for that statistic, so any legal challenges in that regard will have to be validated against the official data.

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IvanMectin 0 points ago +1 / -1

They used a commercial site/service called "Melissa". I saw a detailed explanation of 'why' somewhere in one of the detailed reports on the audit, but I can't remember which one. I don't believe this is in question. Here's a local newspaper that says the same thing - https://tucson.com/news/local/arizona-audit-confirms-trump-lost-finds-no-fraud/article_aa3b67a0-1cd0-11ec-bbc2-8bf71e3fb6f8.html

She pointed out that Cyber Ninjas used not official county voter files, but a commercial program from a company called Melissa.

“We can’t attest to the completeness or accuracy of the Melissa website,’’ Gilbertson said. In fact, she said, there is no real-time commercial database of voter registration that tracks day-by-day changes of where people live.

“People are allowed to move from one house to another even during the election,’’ she said. “If the driver’s license matches the voter registration address, they’re still allowed to vote.’’

And Gilbertson pointed out that the post office will not forward mail-in ballots to any other address.

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IvanMectin 2 points ago +3 / -1

Also, the audit tried to 'verify' eligibility to vote using 'commercially available data', and NOT the official voter registration data. This was a mistake, and will have to be rectified if any real progress is to be made.

What's your estimate of time frame for actual prosecution by AG? I ask because people here are saying we need arrests 'next week'. I suspect 'next year' might be closer to reality.

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IvanMectin -30 points ago +3 / -33

"It's obvious ..." ? really? I was vaxxed back in April, my g/f was vaxxed back in Feb. Absolutely no adverse effects whatsoever (other than a sore arm the day after). Don't get it if you don't want it, but there's no reason not to get it.

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IvanMectin 8 points ago +8 / -0

My g/f had to go to ER for appendicitis. No questions or checks on her regarding vaccine. I, as the 'partner', had to show proof of vaccination or negative test in last 72 hours to be admitted along with her. And of course everyone had to wear masks, no exceptions whatsoever.

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IvanMectin 1 point ago +1 / -0

And having the rooftop / battery system gives you more independence. I've no interest in pure solar, but solar+battery is the way to go.

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