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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Listen, the statue was a statue COMMEMORATING PINES FREEMASONRY.

You’re just being wilfully blind and wilfully ignorant. Your choice of course but I think it’sa stupid choice and does you no favours at all

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

The point is that he wasnt anything else - it was a statue celebrating his contributions to Freemasonry. Why not just go read morals and dogma?

It’s freely available for you so you can get a measure of Albert Pike.

Calling being anti Masonic bigotry? Pfft

Well, if it’s wrong to be bigoted against secretive societies run by the upper echelons of society who worship Lucifer then yes, I guess I’m a rancid bigot. Just as in the same way I’ma rancid transphobe for not wanting little kids to be butchered and drugged or a rotten racist for not wanting to exterminate white people.

Get a clue

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I concede that he has at least mentioned him then, however saying Jesus is more famous than him isn’t an endorsement.

It doesn’t mean that Trump is Christian or a follower. He could have said Karl Marx was more famous than him but would that mean he was endorsing Marx?

Beyoncé is more famous than me but I don’t care about her or her music.

He’s alluding to it without saying it, for the benefit of the crowd, knowing that they will interpret it as such but these people are masters of equivocation and of deceptive language.

Is there anything explicit where Trump acknowledges Jesus as the son of God or states that he is Christian?

He definitely embraces Q but Q says it is the US military (and therefore not Jesus) that is the saviour of humanity.

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

See? It is designed to provoke Nazism, just like in WWII.

Adolf Hitler, in Mein Kampf, Started that he was disgusted at the way the media in Germany at the time were constantly denigrating the German people. Upon closer scrutiny he said it was the Jews who controlled all the media and therefore who were the real enemy.

From there he won popular support - the NSDAP were democratically elected don’t forget.

Hitler chased out of Germany the Institute for Social Research and the sex research clinic. The Institute for Social Research is where Critical Theory was formulated, in the Frankfurt School. They had to up sticks and move to the US. Critical Theory is what masquerades as Diversity and Inclusion and which has infiltrated all the public and private bodies of the western world and accuses everyone of being racist, sexist, transphobic etc.

The people of Weimar Germany were subject to the same continuous accusations that we are today which explains why they would vote for someone who appears to be a defender of their nationality/ethnicity/existence. From there, there ensued a deliberate attempt to genocide Europe (although you would only think that it was Jewish people who were the target of genocide by the way that period of history is framed).

Our world today is simply trying to recreate those exact same conditions. The constant commie accusations of this and that, and the calls to genocide the white race, as laid out by Noel Ignatiev, is anticipated to lead to an uprising of nationalism and Nazism that will eventually lead to a reenactment of WWII but this time more deadly, and that’s what that tweet is seeking to accomplish.

The difficulty is: what choice do we have? They have us by the balls

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

You most assuredly are not. I, for one, agree with everything you said - for what that’s worth

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Jacobin 3 points ago +3 / -0

Cheers. On post 4739, I don’t count that as a Q post mentioning Jesus. It is a set prayer and it is not signed Q. I don’t know where the prayer comes from but it is not Qs own words and referring to God as the Supreme Commander, which is a Military sounding term, raises my suspicions.

I also don’t consider Donald Trump a Christian. I KNOW I’ll catch flak for this but Trump said he never asks God for forgiveness, he couldn’t quote a single passage from the Bible when asked, although when he spoke on that talk show in the 80s I believe he said he follows the Old Testament way of an eye for an eye ie revenge which automatically puts him at odds with the sermon on the Mount and with even just the general gist of Jesus’ ministry.

Also, Donald Trump confessed in his book the art of the deal to having a Kabbalah teacher, we know his daughter and son in law are not only Jewish but are of the genocidal Chabad Lubavitch sect. Trumps love of Israel is well documented and I’ve never heard him speak of Jesus even once (though I stand to be corrected).

Added into that the fact that Trump was always actually a democrat and only became a Republican for his election campaign (is this correct? When did he become a Republican?) then it makes things more than a little bit iffy on his Christian credentials and raises the distinct possibility that he was just gaming the Christian vote, which is overwhelmingly Republican.

You are correct that Q drew reference to Freemasons but not anywhere near enough for my liking, given the humongous influence they exert over world events. It felt more tokenistic than anything else, like he knew his credibility in these matters would be severely undermined if he didn’t throw a bone.

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

To ask anons: the consensus amongst anons was that, owing to Qs posts about Iran being freed and generally positive narrative about what was about to go down in Iran, how do these disclosures of meddling affect how anons view Q?

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

In terms of Iran and this being a western-intelligence led phony revolution we need to factor in the fact that Israel, who exert enormous influence in US, U.K., Russia, Ukraine and China consider Iran to be their number one enemy.

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can’t believe this is stickied. Not because it’s unworthy - it’s eminently worthy. But because the weight of opinion does seem to just lap up everything that’s put before them without question, like a hungry dog.

More of this type of inquiry please!

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol a fair point. Unfortunately, I only discovered Q in the months leading up to the election 2020 so missed VOAT. I wish I could have seen it though as people seem to remember it fondly and speak highly of the quality of research there. Alas, I have zero insight into how things at VOAT went.

On the question of why I’m still here. Well, I’ve been banned for ages but still come and lurk because this place can often be a good news aggregator.

My ban was lifted the other day because I messaged the mods having read a post talking about Castle LOCK in relation to the Queen where anons were discussing the possible meanings of CASTLE.

I pointed out to the mods that there is something called Programme CASTLE which is being conducted by the British Army in order to ‘radically transform’ the way the Army manages its personnel and that this might be an Avenue worth exploring but one that no one seems to know about. That saw my ban lifted but we’ll see how long it lasts…

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, that is the hopeful position and something we all here would prefer to see. But it doesn’t negate the possibility that the entire thing is one big ploy - one big theatrical enterprise conducted by essentially the same Cabal.

There are just far too many unresolved (in fact, entirely unaddressed by anons) clues as to the true motives of Q and Trump for me to accept the stated aims of Q at face value.

And there are highly credible theories out there about Q simply being the light squares of the same Masonic checkerboard, as with Probably Alexandra’s theories.

For example, raising the following reasonable points has often seen me banned from here - not because they are unworthy of discussion or untruthful but because most Q believers simply don’t want to get into the nitty gritty of the details and their implications.

Q doesn’t mention Jesus at all. He says you can’t remove the Christ from Christmas but we know that Christmas was a Pagan celebration of the winter solstice and nothing whatsoever to do with Christ.

Aside from that Q doesn’t mention him. Q is favourable to new age philosophy, boasting about a new Age of Enlightenment. Flynn recited that new Age patter of Claire Prophet and deceived his Christian audience into reciting it with him. Jesus warned against taking oaths and there was the Q oath that folk took.

Q mentions positively the dawn of a Brave New World.

Trump wanted the restoration of Albert Pikes statue commemorating his Freemasonry, following the BLM destruction.

Trumps pastor growing up was Norman Vincent Peale - another 33rd Degree Freemason. Trumps penthouse apartment is adorned with paintings of Apollo and Masonic columns.

Trump and Hillary are 19th cousins, both coming from European royalty bloodlines - just like every other president in history.

Q is silent on Gates. Q never gave any warning about the plandemic whatsoever which is a huge gaping hole considering the turn of events the world took and especially considering that such plans have been in the offing for decades. Why not give anons a heads up?

Qs confused messaging about who is to take action. Stating at different times that it is for the people whilst at other times stating that you chose them to do so and to just enjoy the show.

Trumps introduction of Warp Speed which is not only experimental vaccination that forewent all the normal safety protocols at Trumps behest, but also included the infrastructure for a health surveillance State. The fact that Event 201 is the only dummy run that is cited as proof of the planned nature of the plandemic whilst completely ignoring Trumps own, much broader reaching and much longer plandemic preparedness exercise Crimson Contagion.

Trumps continual celebration and endorsement of the vaccines.

There’s plenty more besides but I hope that you will recognise also that these are entirely legitimate concerns to have and questions that truly need resolved before the impartial observer could possibly jump aboard the Q and Trump trains because it makes both look absolutely complicit. Also that Trump dropped his vaccine safety commission at the behest of Gates who encouraged him instead to ‘do something great with vaccines’. Which, he claims he had done. But what he has also done there is set a precedent for similar things in the future.

There’s actually plenty about Q and Trump that is foreboding but unfortunately an awful lot of anons have adopted a cult mindset on these things and interpret every single thing that Q and Trump says or does in a positive light, no matter how illogical and irrational. Their justification essentially boiling down to some 5d chess move that is incomprehensible to even the most seasoned, well-researched anons and yet somehow they still fancy themselves as being the ones who can explain it all to the masses once the levee breaks.

It’s not adequate enough for me personally and I don’t believe it should be adequate enough for anyone who thinks of themself as logical and a seeker after truth.

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

I disagree. The way that Q presents itself vs what Q actually is may be at odds.

Psy Ops aren’t conducted through the telling of truth - they are conducted through the deliberate and systematic framing of things in order to elicit a desired response.

Although you may feel that everything Q has said and lead people to believe is bona fide, completely upfront and truthful, so too do the people in the opposite side with their sources of information.

Psy Ops are DESIGNED to put people at variance with each other - this means playing both sides against each other in order to achieve a state of crisis so that they can walk in and pretend to be the hero when they were the villain all along.

I think people need to just accept their vulnerability to deception. All Psy Ops that come at you will present themselves as the good guys/white hats, as with Operation Trust but people need to be more savvy than to just believe that someone is good and countering evil on only their own say so.

It is unarguable that the US and the world generally has become a more polarised place and this is by design. Whether you like it or not, Q has contributed to this immensely.

Q followers believe that Q is the good guy and that everyone else is deluded and that anons and the US military are literally the saviours of humanity whereas the other side have similarly grandiose thought about themselves - that they are liberators of all the ways that society enslaves people and that you are the extremists. These are genuinely held beliefs that both sides have about themselves and each other.

Most people just don’t want to countenance the possibility that they have both been played by the same force. Even though the situation we find ourselves in is precisely the stated aim of Psy Ops.

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Q never mentioned COVID beforehand whatsoever.

You would think that the omniscient Q, who is supposedly giving advance Intel drops might have warned folk, or even just alluded to the fact that there was about to be some global shutdown based on a phony pandemic.

Did he just forget? Did it slip under his radar? What possible legitimate excuse might he have for neglecting to mention something which has profoundly altered the world we live in?

Where is his mention of Schwab and the WEF?

Why does he have positive references to new Age movements and not a word about Jesus?

A properly Critical look at &q reveals many worrying oversights/misdirections and things we know to be huge influences being conspicuous by their absence

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

No, I was thinking of this one, although the link appears to be broken.

That post you linked to wasn’t Q mentioning Gates he was responding to someone which included a reference to it but he said nothing of any substance. And nothing about Gates at all - that was an anons doing.

Qs solitary reference to Gates is in this post but it doesn’t say anything, doesn’t accuse. How can he mention other big hitters by name and make direct accusations or references but not for Gates?

https://qalerts.app/?q=4825+

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the most probable.

Militaries engage in Psy Ops. This involves winning the trust of people through massive all-encompassing propaganda campaigns in order to ignite’ movements’ amongst the profane that will carry out the bidding of militaries and governments whilst retaining a veneer of being something organic.

Cass Sunstein wrote in his 2008 paper conspiracies: Their causes and Cure that governments should cognitively infiltrate the places where conspiracies percolate in order to cognitively steer conspiracists into supporting the actions of government.

Cass Sunstein was soon thereafter appointed by the British Government to head up their Behavioural Insights Team utilising Sunsteins Nudge Theory.

Behavioural Insights Teams were then exported to governments around the world.

Psychological Warfare doctrine was formulated in no small part by open US military Satanist and paedophile Col Aquino.

Q appears and before long you have thousands upon thousands of Americans salivating at the prospect of being ruled over by a military junta - the same people who implement the Psy Ops in the first place but for some reason Pro-Q Americans just take what they already accept to be a Psy Op on its face on only the say so of the people conducting the operation against them. (ie ‘Trust me, I’m from the Government and I’m here to help’)

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Q has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to say about the Gates foundation. This doesn’t need to be a speculative matter - you can go look at the Q posts for references to gates. There is only one and it is not critical whatsoever. It links to a celebration of the ten year anniversary of some enterprise of his. That’s all.

Not a cross word was spoken, none of the typical warnings, nothing accusatory, no threads to follow, nada.

So, Gates isn’t actually a feature of Q which begs a few questions.

Most people here cottoned onto Gates via the Fall Cabal series, not Q.

As such, consistency with the overall tone of this post would demand that Gates also be a restricted topic.

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

I appreciate your giving me the benefit of the doubt, so sincere appreciation and thanks. A fellow jock here.

I would consider myself sympathetic to the Jacobite cause inasmuch as our current monarchy are interlopers. We have been ruled over by a foreign infiltrative monarchy since the reformation whereas, if we must have a monarchy at all, it should be the Stuarts.

Although to complicate matters I don’t like Catholicism as I consider it an absolute perversion of Jesus teachings so not very easy to resolve.

Also, Jacobite songs are awesome: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xLBGqJAdY8k

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I don’t respect your self-proclaimed expertise I’m afraid.

The casual waving away of the Albert Pike thing might allow you to deluded yourself into thinking it has zero significance but Pike was a 33rd Degree Freemason and Trump sought to preserve his Masonic tribute in DC whilst not lifting a finger to preserve other statues. Trump is also a huge fan of his ‘pastor’ Norman Vincent Peale who was himself a 33rd Degree Freemason.

If you accept that 33rd Degree Freemasons are Luciferian then you’re on a bit of a sticky wicket and such connections are not so easily resolved as in the manner you are attempting.

Also, Trumps penthouse being adorned with paintings of Apollo and filled with Masonic columns need to be adequately addressed.

It’s not a trivial thing. If symbolism will be their downfall and if symbolism is where hidden truths lie then you have an actual task on your hands in providing an exculpatory rationale.

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Jacobin 6 points ago +6 / -0

It’s not. You made a statement that you can PROVE (emphasis yours) your claim. I’m inviting you to fulfil only what you said you could.

For the record, I well believe that he could be too and that he and his brother match the Maddy McCann suspect photofits.

Proving a claim is another matter though and I await your proof. PROOF, mind, not conjecture.

Unless you’re now going to demote your original statement to being a merely rhetorical one?

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Jacobin 2 points ago +2 / -0

They did it so it could serve its purpose - that anons would grab it, take the bait, and not realise that they are being gamed and lured deeper into the silo that has been set for them.

All post of the grand divide and conquer strategy

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Jacobin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I want you to answer the questions that were asked.

What you called ‘focusing’ was nothing of the sort - it was the camera man simply drawing back the zoom. Focussing means you can see more of the detail clearly, not panning out until the object becomes a tiny speck of light devoid of detail.

I think your avoidance speaks for itself really.

Is what You saw in that video the same thing as the sun in our sky? Yes or no?

And how do you account for the big black hole in its centre?

These are straightforward questions which you should be able to answer straightforwardly.

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