Ahem. Sorry.
100% what bubble burst said.
Just read the post.
If you need a break down or explanation of a particular post.
Looking into old IPOT (in pursuit of truth) breakdown videos are best IMO.
He breaks down post in sections from each day.
Hes not conspiratorial, just breaks down the meanings and coms as Objectivly as possible. (theres a lot of anagram speak, like LOL type crap. GWB = Gorge W Bush. Gets confusing tho. Nice to have someone break that down.)
Will be back to post a link to his stuff. Its gotta be somewhere. Youtube has certainly scrubed it tho.
I feel you. Its a major blow to the ego for sure.
I can see how badly that hurts, like they didn't even respect you enough to make their stand in an at least civil way. That does suck and that is not fair.
Tho, realize, this was done in a heat of emotions. Your brother probably thinks you are as ridiculous as you think he is.
Your brother probably feels like your advice will kill your father. Just as much as you do.
Very powerful emotion there. Understandable.
First off. I would not apologize. You did nothing wrong, or even, you were all in the wrong at the heat of the moment. (Maybe you ridiculed them a bit too? Idk)
I would say something like.
"Look, I still feel strongly about how I do, but, I am willing to accept your choices, and to respect the way you feel about this, IF you can respect my outlook in the same manor. Not that we need to talk about it anymore. As Id rather not. But I would like to stay in contact with you both again... So, hows the weather?"
Im sorry fren.
I would say forgive your dad and Brother.
They feel just as strongly as you do about this. They think its saving their lives.
Your father is an Adult, ultimately it is his decision, not your brothers. Tho Im sure it felt like a betrayal. Realize its not, your father already had a predisposition to one side.
Don't take it personally. Stuff rarely ever is.
You're family made their choices, move on, and enjoy the time you do have together in other ways.
Unless theyre being total jerks about it and they wont let it go.
Or, unless, you just feel like that wouldn't make you happy, or you aren't ready for that. Do whats best for you're mental health ultimately. Above all.
If debate you must. If you can't find middle ground then don't debate at all.
If they can't leave it be. If they're being the toxic and controlling sudo parent. If they won't resect your wishes to enjoy mutal time some other way. Then they are wrong, and its not okay behavior. No matter their political veiws. Id distance myself.
You misunderstand me. I do feel like both sides are garbage. However, I think Putin is a thorn in the side of globalism. Id say that too if the convo went further.
I do tell them the truth. I just don't bombard them with it. Im willing to debate from the center, they know how I really feel.
If I can at least get them center of the MSM narrative, then thats big.
I don't have many friends. I have a handful of very close friends.
I respect them enough to treat them like adults and not preach at them like I am all knowing. (We could all very well be wrong. We must humble ourselves.)
And lastly. Some of them really hate politics. It just, stresses them out. They dont have to hear it. Im not here to save them. Thats gods work.
Spam texting your brother Q conspiracies when they dont even bring it up and probably dont have the mental energy to hear it because we all have lives going on, is toxic. No matter how right you are. Even if its the vaccine.
You can make your peace and warn them 100% (I have) but don't constantly beat them over it. Accept their adult decision, respect their wishes and move on to enjoy the time we do have together. As youd want them to do the same.
Ii is hard, to let go and let them make their own choices, I know. The right thing isn't easy.
A word of advice. Which I can tell you already know from these comments but I still feel the need to reinerate.
Don't talk about it with them. They dont want to hear it. We aren't doing them any favors shoving it down their throats. Live and let live. Be the example. Not a mouth piece.
Another tip is to learn the art of remaining neutral. I have leftist friends I can totaly get along with because Im so good at remaining neutral.
Its not my true stance, and they know that, but I am able to see their point of view, or at least a neutral one, and pivot the conversation from there.
Them: "What do you think about Ukraine?"
Me: "both sides are garbage."
Them: "Fair point"
Vs
Me: "Putin is a white hat here to save us and Ukraine sells child sex slaves underground huurrrr!!!"
A little dramatic but thats really how we can come off with this stuff.
Its better to tell them things in a way normies can relate too, and not the full naked thruth. Or not bother them at all. Everything will be alright in the end. Have faith in that. And focus on yourself.
Don't talk about it with them. They dont want to hear it. We aren't doing them any favors shoving it down their throats. Live and let live. Be the example. Not a mouth piece.
Another tip is to learn the art of remaining neutral. I have leftist friends I can totaly get along with because Im so good at remaining neutral.
Its not my true stance, and they know that, but I am able to see their point of view, or at least a neutral one, and pivot the conversation from there.
Them: "What do you think about Ukraine?"
Me: "both sides are garbage."
Them: "Fair point"
Vs
Me: "Putin is a white hat here to save us and Ukraine sells babies to global sex trafficking rings underground huurrrrraahh."
A little dramatic but thats really how we can come off with this stuff.
Leaving this here, how to translate these images.
I may be wrong but I think mods apply them?
The only ones that stick are NSFW and Shitpost.