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SkepButOpen -3 points ago +2 / -5

Ahhh... vague words open to multiple interpretations that can easily be changed over time.

How convenient!

So where are the tangible results 5 years later and 7 years after Trump on the escalator?

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SkepButOpen -3 points ago +3 / -6

Cool!

More WORDS and PROMISES!

Well, I'm convinced!

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SkepButOpen 0 points ago +5 / -5

Maybe. I think so. But I can’t know it. No one can. All of the “proofs“ don’t count. Do the math. There are thousands upon thousands of strings of numbers, dates, codes, timestamps, key words and phrases, and the reality is that there are billions of different permutations that could, later, match something else. So there should technically be thousands of “hits”. And I’m underselling. Probably tens of thousands.

So none of the “proof“ videos ever sold me. Not one. Because I understand mathematics. Of course there’s going to be hit. Lots of them. There’s probably more of them. I’m sure there are more that we just haven’t discovered yet, there will be more deltas that appear to match something. It’s mathematically impossible not to even if you randomly generated all of these numbers and phrases and codes and pictures. It would be mathematically impossible for their not to be delta matches. Impossible.

It also helps that we frequently “decode “a drop and then later completely change its meaning when we turn out to be wrong about what it was going to mean. Awful convenient. Isn’t it? At some point we are going to need to see tangible results or places like this will become less and less populated.

We can rely on the old crutch that there is no such thing as coincidences… Except that there are coincidences. Like I said, I can literally randomly generate drops out of thin air and there will be proofs. Tons of them. And they would absolutely be coincidental because of the mathematics. It’s impossible for there not to be.

That doesn’t mean Q isn’t “real”.

But if what I said makes you uncomfortable ask yourself if this is a religion or a community of researchers.

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SkepButOpen -1 points ago +3 / -4

People are dying while we’re waiting to wake up people who don’t even want to wake up. It makes no sense. But, if Patriots truly are in control and there truly is a plan, then I’ll happily go along with it. I’ll just go on the record of saying I don’t think that’s what we’re waiting for because it doesn’t make any sense. What happened to children because of the Covid hysteria is unforgivable and irreversible. They will never recover fully from the trauma and the damage done to their development, language development in particular. You cannot get that back. The damage is irreversible. Whatever it is we’re waiting for, I hope it’s damn worth it.

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SkepButOpen -3 points ago +1 / -4

But that’s not necessarily true. At all. It’s a longshot, and I hope it’s true, and maybe it is. But the smug certainty is unwarranted.

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SkepButOpen 1 point ago +4 / -3

OK, why is the failure to get a conviction necessary? I understand why the trial might be necessary, but why not get the conviction while you are at it? And we need to stop with this “we can bring it up in a later trial“ bullshit because that’s not even necessarily true. Just because we exposed it and it’s on the record, it’s absolutely not a guarantee that we can even broach that subject in a “future trial” if there’s ever going to be one. That’s a lie that needs to stop.

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SkepButOpen 2 points ago +6 / -4

That’s not always the case. Just because something is admitted on the record in a court does not mean it can be referenced in a later case. Technically, there’s no guarantee they can even mention it. That’s why, in many cases, the prosecution desperately tries to get a repeat offender to accidentally mention one of his older convictions, so that they can use it against him in that case. Because often, they aren’t even allowed to bring it up.

Every single lawyer on this board is repeating that over and over again and people just aren’t listening.

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SkepButOpen -3 points ago +2 / -5

Well, notice that your upvotes way outnumber your downvotes.

You aren’t alone in being hopeful but skeptical.

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SkepButOpen -3 points ago +2 / -5

Good point, and one worth repeating. But it was just two weeks ago that I was told there’s no way they spent this much time getting ready for the Sussman situation to lose the conviction. And I still haven’t had anyone explain to me how we couldn’t do all the things we did, expose all the things we exposed, while also still getting the conviction. And if the conviction was out of our control, then I guess the patriots aren’t in complete control? There are still some sectors of our government we do not control? Because people got mad at me for suggesting that two weeks ago. The same people, mostly, who got angry at the very suggestion that we might not get this conviction. And some of those very same people right now are saying it never mattered at all anyway.

There comes a time when people stop believing others who have been wrong repeatedly and never, ever, ever admit it.

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SkepButOpen 6 points ago +8 / -2

Well, perhaps they are skeptical because of the constant goal post moving, the constant predictions that never turn out to be accurate, everyone saying boom boom boom about things that fall through, almost without exception.

Even with this trial, there were people two weeks ago who got mad at the mere suggestion that we might not get this conviction. Some of those exact same people, right now, are saying that they knew there would be no conviction and that it’s part of the plan.

They are literally lying.

So when it comes to PDW and other skeptics, can you really blame them? Remember, many of them used to believe that the drops were real and followed Q almost religiously. Many of them. I guess they just don’t have the same level faith that you do.

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SkepButOpen 2 points ago +6 / -4

Check comment history. For many, it was absolutely a goal post. The premature BOOM!!!!!!ing was rampant. Maybe not for you - but yes it was - for many who are now lying and saying they never said it.

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SkepButOpen 3 points ago +6 / -3

Well, no. The simplest explanation (NOT SAYING THIS IS IT) is that the drops were a game or psyop and we’ve been misled and no one is helping us behind the scenes and that patriots are not in control.

That’s way simpler.

Doesn’t mean that’s what it is, but it’s undeniably simpler.

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SkepButOpen 1 point ago +7 / -6

Or, maybe, just maybe… You’re wrong. I know it’s amazing to think that a human being could be wrong about something but you know what? Sometimes they are. You’re acting on faith and faith alone. Faith that secret messages on the Internet are real, faith that, even if they were real, the plan is actually working.

When all else fails, people will say that the plan is unknowable, therefore it’s impossible to say that it’s not working or that it doesn’t exist. Problem with that is, those same people conveniently forget the plan is unknowable when they claim it’s working and everything is on track. They are basing that on faith alone.

For all we know, the people behind the drops are dead. You don’t know that they aren’t.

And this is working from the assumption, as most of us are, that those messages were legitimate. But we are lying to ourselves if we can say, for certain, that they were.

You don’t know the plan is working anymore than I know that it isn’t. But at least not least I’m willing to admit what I don’t know. I’m not going to be smug and put other people down for beginning to have doubts after years of absolutely no tangible results.

Especially considering the prediction track record of the people who put others down for not having as much faith. People who were wrong over and over and over and over and over and over again really have no room to put others down for not believing them when they say something again.

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SkepButOpen 1 point ago +8 / -7

Yeah? When was the last time one of these “fake losses” turned into a bigger win with an arrest of anyone important? Seven years of this “that loss was actually a win”. Seven years. Name one time there was a major arrest that followed one of these “traps” that we set.

Absolutely it could still be coming, absolutely this could still be part of the plan, absolutely. Maybe next week Hillary’s at Gitmo.

But you don’t know that. This is becoming a faith based movement. And not in a good way. In a cultish way.

Some of the same people who are putting down the “doomers“ who were right, yet again, are some of the same people that guaranteed Trump will be back in office by February 2021. That the barbed wire was facing the wrong way because Democrats are going to be arrested. They told us the election would’ve been decertified many months ago, and then the dates got re-drawn, and then re-drawn again, and re-drawn again.

They are some of the same people who, in their own comment history, talked about how important it was to get this conviction and are now saying it doesn’t even matter.

In the long run it might not matter. But I think what people are getting sick of are the mental gymnastics from people who have been wrong repeatedly for YEARS and can never admit it.

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SkepButOpen -4 points ago +3 / -7

When was the last time one of those “stings” I was promised actually stung anyone?

Every loss is part of a sting.

Still waiting on a trap to actually spring.

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SkepButOpen 7 points ago +17 / -10

That’s kind of the fucking point.

You don’t know it either.

You have no idea if it’s even working.

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SkepButOpen 3 points ago +10 / -7

That would be great. But we didn’t need to LOSE this conviction for that to happen. I’m tired of “iT’S A SecReT viCtoRy!!!” as an excuse.

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SkepButOpen -5 points ago +5 / -10

I guarantee that if we got the conviction that would’ve been part of the plan.

It’s becoming rather clear that for some people, no matter what happens, it’s part of the plan because this is more about their faith in the nebulous plan and not in research, data and truth. Results don’t matter when no matter what the results are you’re going to claim victory.

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SkepButOpen -5 points ago +4 / -9

OK, but why was losing necessary? Why not accomplish all the other stuff we accomplished and actually get the conviction? Stop making excuses.

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SkepButOpen -5 points ago +5 / -10

Apparently it is. Unless we get an arrest, then it’s boom boom boom kek kek kek.

Strange how it’s always the convenient option. If we win, we are winning. If we lose, we were supposed to.

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