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🔥⚖️🇺🇸 TechnoFog's Take: Michael Sussmann has been acquitted 🔥⚖️🇺🇸 (technofog.substack.com)
posted 4 years ago by MAGA_Patriot_1776 4 years ago by MAGA_Patriot_1776 +298 / -0
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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 [S] 47 points 4 years ago +47 / -0

A lot of truth in that statement.

I am glad that much was exposed on record in the trial, i.e. Mook stating Hillary signed off on the plan, but it sure feels more deflating than inflating at the moment.

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– purkiss80 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0

Have a read... https://thefederalist.com/2022/05/31/even-if-the-jury-doesnt-convict-michael-sussmann-the-special-counsel-has-won/

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– purkiss80 25 points 4 years ago +25 / -0

Effective messaging has to be simple to sway the herd, one way or another, this is far, far too complicated for 80% of the population and they flat out do not care.

I agree 100% however, what if this leads to a "Big name" being indicted and charged through Durham's digs...I bet that would grab a few more unbelieving eyes.........I for one think that this is far from over...But that's just me...

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– Knight-errant 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

Even if something does eventually come of this, the time frame matters. If a big name isn't convicted until, say 2028, none of this frankly matters because they will have already pulled off the great reset agenda by then. An important component of justice is that it's done in a timely manner. If tomorrow they publicly disclosed who murdered JFK it would be nice to know but the perpetrators have already gotten away with the crime.

The pacing of this is absurdly slow. This Russian collusion hoax began like 6 years ago now and we're just now working on small fish that weren't even found guilty.

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– MeanoReno 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I couldn’t agree with you more.

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– Rooks 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Keep it up purkiss80, you are on point. Appear weak when you are strong.

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– purkiss80 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ty...😉😎

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– SkepButOpen 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

That would be great. But we didn’t need to LOSE this conviction for that to happen. I’m tired of “iT’S A SecReT viCtoRy!!!” as an excuse.

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– Iwata 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That doesn’t explain anything.

The weak also appear weak.

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– VetforTrump 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

The herd is so busy trying to eat they are barely paying attention to this.

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I can say the alphabet backwards.

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– Tazzurit 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I expected not guilty verdict but it was a blow. This article helped get my equilibrium back.

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– G45Colt 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Thanks for the link. Always good to have another perspective.

I think the path we're on is going to lead to tribunals. It's clear the courts aren't going to get anything useful done. And lying to the FBI vs Treason is an obvious choice.

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– dfgjkdf 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

How can they build anything on a false charge?

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– wQkeAF 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It’s not a false charge. It’s a compromised jury and corrupt system.

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– Knight-errant 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

So tired of winning.

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– 2016is1776 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

it all sounds great but unless we see some actual objective results all this hopium is just mental masturbation with no release.

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– CharismaDeye 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I've been waiting on hopium from Azovstal for a week .... this movie is boring.

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– SkepButOpen 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Or… crazy limb I’m out here on….

WE COULD JUST WIN.

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– Tooshort 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

This is all blah blah blah until some real shit happens.

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– FractalizingIron 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Nice comeback, pede.

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– Perrin 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Like I've been punched in the gut

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– Rooks 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Fren, I was with you. My big gut punch was Patel on x22. Ripped my guts out for 24hrs straight, caused a fight with the wife. I was in rough shape. That prepped me for this. I'm let down, but reality is it really didn't matter.

Far short of satisfying, but the truth nonetheless.

Let me help you Pede (hoists Perrin up by his flack jacket) now get back on those Meme Cannons, we have a victory to win!!!!

#BIDENSUKADOOKIE

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– HelloDolly 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Why were you bummed about Patel on X22 because he said it would go as high as McCabe and no higher or because he said no mechanism for Trump to come back . before 22? I was bummed about both TBH. But thought it was interesting he would indirectly endorse Q being legit.

He also said even a DC jury would convict Sussman though so looks like he can be wrong LOL.

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– Rooks 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You are correct on both points. He let the air out of my sails big time. The fact that he endorsed Dave was a secondary, but not enough to counter. I think I was playing it to close to the chest, so bad on me. At least i/we worked through it.

Also correct on the latter. I'm embarrassed to admit I took a bit of pleasure knowing he was wrong about the results.

It was the first time I'd heard him on anything, so no context for how or why he said what he did.

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Sucks, man. Sorry about the fight.

Me? I feel like I've just gone down so many rabbit holes now, been presented with so much ugliness, not to mention disappointments and loses, that I'm becoming somewhat disengaged on some level.

I mean, I still rise with the wins, but when I saw a post about the sussman verdict a few hours ago, it was kind of a bit deflating, but such deflatings don't really affect me much anymore. I just seem to roll slightly with the emotions, and don't invest too much of my heart in any of it now.

Which is not to say that I don't care or that I'm in any way nego about the direction of things, or my willingness to be in the fight. But if I can use a metaphor:

It you are subjected to beating after beating after beating, at some point, you arrive at a place where the beatings don't really mean that much. You've found a place where you sort of expect them, but can transcend them. You're kind of over the shock factor, and your system has acclimatized. Then, onward and upward through the mud of it all.

Dunno. Anyway, sorry about the gut situation.

Love to all pepes out there.

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– Rooks 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Dude, we are so in the same place.

I think what gets to me most is the inaction of it all. God forbid this goes kinetic, but I almost feel bad kinda wishing it would just so I could participate. I don't want bodies and invasion and all that goes with that, thats not what i mean. But at least then I'd be out there, you know?

My sense of justice and wanting to get involved in the fix is losing patience with the minutia of how I intellectually understand it needs to unfold.

We are the people at home supporting the boys over there, yet longing to be in the thick of it with them.

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– Perrin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I appreciate the motivation. As soon as I get the taste of crow out of my mouth ill be back at it.

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– Rooks 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

TY for reporting on it anyways, deflating as it is. You are right, it wasn't a total loss, far from it. And besides, if it wasn't a needed victory other than the info, "appear weak when you are strong" seems to fit.

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– BasedCitizen 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Lets be honest, they were YOUR goalposts. We don't know the plan, how it works, its timeline, etc.

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– SkepButOpen 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

That’s kind of the fucking point.

You don’t know it either.

You have no idea if it’s even working.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Everything lies on faith, and that faith is either in a non-interventionist God to handle things for you (not going to happen, if this were the route then it never would have gotten this far) or faith in humans, and we all see how faith in humans goes.

I am very tired of every loss being a win personally. Something has to give. It can't just be taking.

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– JohnBrowning 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

That is the beauty of the plan. Literally everything is a win.

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– magavoices 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

My goalposts aren't set by doomers.

The goalpost has always been that the military is the only way.

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– manxom 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

how do you introduce evidence?

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– DarQ2light 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Welcome to the University of the Fog of War, you will soon graduate a wiser individual.

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– CMAnon 58 points 4 years ago +58 / -0

AG Garland has the excuse he needs to defund Durham as a total waste of time and resources.

Listen people, the Executive office is corrupted, both houses of congress are corrupted, the Supreme Court and DOJ are corrupted as are the intelligence agencies. My only question is will the military act? Judging by their willingness to poison all the troops with the jabs, I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy right now.

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– JBH34 26 points 4 years ago +26 / -0

This is the current state of our military.

It's why many of us have been telling everyone to get plenty of supplies at least so you can be as comfortable as possible, this is likely the last 1-2 years we are going to have of relative peace and comfort, very bad people have conqured the US and control our military, it's OVER.

It's so bad, that we can't even openly say who the enemy is, that's how subverted everyone is from generations of brainwashing. The truth is, the US was lost at the civil war to international bankers. That's how it was so easy for the Federal Reserve to swoop in at 1913.

Seek Jesus Christ for the salvation of your souls, there is no other hope, never has been. 1 John explains Satan literally runs this entire world. Jesus turned down the short term offer of worldly control in the desert, a cabal took that offer and is now closing in.

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– boxrocks 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's because this reality/world is broken, corrupted and tainted by imperfection. Why would Jesus want to negotiate for a broken program when He was sent to save as many out of this reality so that we may be reinserted later into a new reality. Satan is marked for deletion just like everything else in this reality not saved from the fate that awaits.

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– CMAnon 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

There's a third option that nobody talks about because these boards are always monitored and I don't think it involves the military. It's going to church and praying...yea, that's it.

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– Taran77 57 points 4 years ago +57 / -0

Pure bullshit. When do we get a win? Every time something drops it ends up being a big nothing burger. I fucking hate this planet. Jesus needs to either come back soon or a planet size meteor needs to just wipe us out of the universe. We are run by fucking pedophiles and apparently they can pull themselves out of any fire we can bring. Tell me not to Doom all you fucking want but it is shit like this that is pushing people into depression and sadness. People that actually believed we could win and fix this shit are walking away.

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– purkiss80 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

I respectfully Only agree with one of your Points...100%

I fucking hate this planet. Jesus needs to either come back soon or a planet size meteor needs to just wipe us out of the universe.

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– 400DollarHandcart 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

This^ I’m happy with either one, I’d even settle for civil war or a nuclear holocaust.

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– WWG0N3WGA 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Lol someone doesn't understand Q at all. This isn't conventional warfare.

Silent war continues.

God wins.

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– iideathyii 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

this is what the enemy want their subjects to think. Sit back and let someone else take care of it. No, get off your ass and run for office, homeschool, grow your own food. Fuck the system any way you can

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– 2016is1776 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

nice sentiment... how long are you going to keep it???

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– GottaCatchAMall 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Don’t worry! The white hats are in control!! When all else feels lost, a little blind optimism can’t get you through even the hardest time!

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– Wtf_socialismreally 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The pandemic isn't over until they stop trying to jab us at every opportunity.

I'm tired of being in any house with the television on, and seeing children used to push vaccine propaganda.

Your status is still asked for.

People still wear masks. People still try to judge you for not wearing one.

It feels the same to me as a year ago.

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– redlotus69 45 points 4 years ago +45 / -0

From all eyes on the audit to all eyes on Durham.

This is getting ridiculous.

Something GOOD, GENUINELY GOOD needs to happen for once because this is getting exhausting. I need to see SOMEONE get fuckin arrested

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– barndoorsmurf 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Totally agree on your point. Every since Az audit was a flop i have bern saying this. Nothing sticks to the Demon ruling class! And normies wont wake up even after a 2x4 to the head.

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– queue-anon 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Military only way. Precipice.

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– redlotus69 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

When did Trump say he lost?

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– PolishBaldEagle 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

Doesn’t surprise me when you have a DC based judge, a compromised jury, and liberals fighting hard regarding damage control…

Remember…. The swamp runs REALLY deep

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– queue-anon 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Exactly this. How do people not understand how huge the cabal is and how it’s tenticals are everywhere.

I can’t believe people didn’t see this coming. Full on doomers in this thread.

None of them have read and studied the Q drops much.

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– queue-anon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It’s exactly what is needed and what will happen.

People need to find the will to change.

Otherwise draining the the swamp and taking down the cabal will be temporary.

Think of it like removing a tumah when cancer has spread everywhere.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Going off grid tends to mean things like basic hygiene is more of a chore. Outhouses instead of toilets in a lot of regions. Burning your feces on a schedule, because there's no direct line to sewers.

Living off the grid can be freeing, but it's not comfortable in a lot of ways. For some reason people think that living off the grid means still having electricity from their local power plants or clean running water, but that's just not the case.

To be truly off the grid means rejection of a lot of modern technologies.

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– queue-anon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What Q said is logical about preventing the cabal from taking over again. If this precipice moment didn’t happen you would have been in a worse situation as Hillary and Obama had a 16 year plan to destroy America.

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– Buttery 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

How did it get this far if the swamp/cabal/deep state have that much control? Optics?

Have you given up on the court system, election system, essentially everything and are just waiting for the military ("only way")?

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– xchainlinkx 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Military still the only way?

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– Rubieroo 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

A lot has changed in the public consciousness over the past 2 years. Every single conservative sleeper I knew is now considering the idea that they've been lied to about EVERYTHING. Plenty are now comprehending that there are foreign powers at work, pitted against us and intent on destroying the US.

And with one exception all of the Democrat voters I know are regretting Biden. That's a major shift.

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It isn't necessary for them to all be swayed to "military is the only way". If they despise Biden hard enough they'll be relieved to see him go. Perhaps relieved enough to just wait and see as opposed to dashing out into the streets with their little pink hats on.

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You cannot confuse your own circles and personalities for being normie and mainstream.

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– Lawjic 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Correct. This is the whole reason for Q to drop their intel online.

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– queue-anon 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Always has been

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– ErOsion9o 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Took months for this to go go trial.. Now we wait 10-12 months for the next Durham attack?

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– CMAnon 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Next attack? Fat chance. AG Garland has what he needs to shut Durham down as a total waste of time and money.

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– 2016is1776 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

have we had anything great from Durham??? because it does feel like a waste of time AND money.

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– JohnBrowning 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

This is it. This was the big shot from Durham. Womp Womp… Yes, a waste of time and money. Durham is smiling all the way to the bank.

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– MoniQuesmith303 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Wheres Durham?

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– Kekeveli777 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

He cant do that

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– making_upvotes 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

THIS IS SUCH FUCKING HORSESHIT.

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– AmphibianPlague 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

America has fallen. There is no political solution.

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– queue-anon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Always has been. Military only way

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– ImWaterjug 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Reminder to all: This was a Federal case in Washington D.C., 95% Democrat

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– BillWhittle24 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Want to face off against Biden’s MRAPs with miniguns manned by trannies with shoot to kill orders, you mean?

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– dfgjkdf 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

100 vs 100,000,000, i'll take those odds.

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– ThePowerOfPrayer 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

u/dfgjkdf in action

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– dfgjkdf 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

wtf is that lol

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– queue-anon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Kek

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– Not_A_Spy 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Ugh! This is absolutely exhausting. Anyone else just feel like throwing in the towel and taking a long walk off a short dock? That’s great and all that some people can keep their hope. But in the mean time, others are losing everything they have, depression and anxiety are endless and it just feels like what’s the fuckin point anymore?!? I put my faith in God. Not man. But holy shit, this is just absurd.

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I don't know if this will be helpful to you or not.

Your comment reminded me of why I made this post originally.

I hope it helps you or others who are feeling despair. It's an interesting perspective. If you believe we are already engaged in a global information war (as I do), and you believe you are a soldier in this war (I believe everyone is whether they know it or not, fake news and propaganda is all around us), then this message is for you.

Either way, I encourage you to remain strong. We only need to get up just one more time than we are knocked down in life. If you can agree with yourself to just get up one more time than the number of times you get knocked down, all will be well.

u/#wwg1wga

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– Iwata 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

We only need to get up just one more time than we are knocked down in life.

In general that’s a heathy attitude, but certainly sounds different than:

"We're gonna win so much, you may even get tired of winning. And you'll say, 'Please, please. It's too much winning. We can't take it anymore. Mr. President, it's too much.' ”

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I agree with you on that u/Iwata.

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– InsleeMustGo 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I hope that this was just a shot across the bow. Maybe it will be appealed on the grounds that DC courts cannot be impartial. That can then be used as justification for future cases to be heard in a different venue, and speed up the process. I would like to say that this case is showing the public that the system is broken, but we already knew that. The normies will just view this as confirmation of the narrative that Trump keeps losing.

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– QKek 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

You cannot appeal an acquittal due to Double Jeopardy.

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– SocialismIsEvil 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Stop over complicating it, its simple, enter evidence that can be used in other cases. Why u think he disnt give a shit about jurors

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– Iwata 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Lol. If you have evidence of something, why not just use it for a case you can win?

Entering irrelevant evidence and losing cases isn’t a good strategy.

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– Panzershrekt 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Only if a judge allows it.

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– Corse46 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I had slight hope but I can’t say I’m surprised with a DC jury pool. This makes the case for future changes of venue and/or military courts. I also think the verdict is far, far less important than the facts and testimony that came out of this trial. Any reasonable non-leftist is going to look at this and know the jury got it wrong on purpose. I think that’s important for what comes next.

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– Tewdryg 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

TechnoFog says it all when he writes:

"Where does Durham go from here? That’s the real question. We already know that the investigation into Rodney Joffe remains open and that Igor Danchenko faces trial this year. Whether there is more remains to be seen."

What are the odds of government losing cases? I remember reading government gets convictions 97% of the time. And here we have an admitted liar not being convicted of lying by the government. You can't make this shit up, folks.

Isn't it amazing during testimony to Congress the defendant, Sussmann, actually admitted he met with Baker on behalf of a client?

How does one not get a conviction of lying when the defendant admitted to congress it was on behalf of a client? Unbelievable bias from the jury.

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– MeanOMan 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

not trying to be a dick but TechnoFog and many others are missing a point...

Meeting with Baker on behalf of a client was not what he was charged with.

He was charged with lying to James Baker about it behind closed doors, and that it tricked the FBI into conducting a false investigation.

James Baker didn't need to be lied to, he was part of it. Baker said Sussman said that it was not on behalf of a client, but that is how Baker skates being on trial himself.

Unless you think James Baker and 7th floor of the FBI was not in on this from the start, then there was NO NEED for Sussman to lie. He just had to show up and drop off the thumb drives so Baker could do his part.

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– Tewdryg 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I understand what you're saying. I agree. Sussman, Baker, Joffa, and others are all part of the conspiracy. Even if the jury recognized by the evidence shown that the FBI was part of the conspiracy, it doesn't negate the charge against Sussman. Sussman lied and its provable. I want all the fish, little and large, to fry.

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– MeanOMan 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

by the way.. it was Sussman's attorney's strategy to convince the Jury that Baker and other agents knew that Sussman was working for Hillary.

essentially in on the lie, an not fooled by it, making the lie immaterial

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– Tewdryg 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

"making the lie immaterial"

Whether the lie was material or immaterial, it is still a lie. The jury was not tasked with this premise either. Did Sussman lie. Yes. His testimony before Congress proves this. Sussman lied, but was was not convicted because of a very biased jury.

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– MeanOMan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

yes they where man.. sorry, but your just not understanding the instructions and perjury law...

You can lie to the FBI... You can say, "I have a pretty girlfriend." Then go out and tell the CIA... "My girlfriend is dog ass ugly." Then tell congress... "My girlfriend is smart but looks are just ok."

unless the lie is material to an investigation, its not perjury

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– MeanOMan 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

someone lied... not sure why Sussman would have to lie, Baker was in on it

Sussman was innocent of the charges unless Baker was not in on it. The moment Baker is in on it, it makes Sussman's lie immaterial.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The charge against Sussman was lying to the FBI. He actually said to Baker he was not representing a client when he knowingly was. Sussman lied to the FBI and its provable by his statement before Congress. Whether Baker was in on the conspiracy is another case. Durham used Sussman's peccadillo for laying a wider net. I don't care how small the fish are. I want justice.

Lying to the FBI is considered to be verbal or non-verbal. The threshold is outrageously biased to anything the FBI wants to interpret. Many people have gone to prison for their silence in not answering a question or forgetting a detail of the event. All are considered lying to the FBI. On the flip side it is legal for the FBI to lie to you and me.

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– MeanOMan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

AGAIN!! You don't know for fact he told Baker... All you have his Baker saying he did. Of course Baker is going to say he lied, because if Baker tagged it to prevent a political investigation from getting squashed because of Bureau rules, then BAKER goes to jail.

You understand... If Baker doesn't say Sussman lied, Baker goes to jail, because Baker told the his subs he was not working for a client.

It's not like Baker didn't have a motive to lie, he did... He knew for fact Sussman worked for Hillary. Sussman, Baker, Elias, and the whole party probably Zoomed 15 min before Sussman walked across the street to give him the evidence....

The whole fucking thing was planned.

It would be like one bankrobber wearing a mask in a private room with the other bankrobber even though they know each other... It's immaterial...

Doesn't mean I don't think Sussman took part in a lie to the FBI because he did!! Everyone on the Hillary team took part in that lie.

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– Tewdryg 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

"You don't know for fact he told Baker... All you have his Baker saying he did."

There's more. Durham has all of Sussman's billing statements. Billing records showed Sussmann charged his time for working the Alfa Bank hoax—including the time he spent meeting with the FBI’s General Counsel Baker—to the Clinton campaign. In fact, late last week, the jury in the Sussmann case learned that Sussmann even charged the Clinton campaign for two thumb drives purchased at Staples used for the Alfa Bank project.

"It would be like one bankrobber wearing a mask in a private room with the other bankrobber even though they know each other... It's immaterial..."

Except at this point in time, only one bankrobber was being charged for lying to the FBI. The other isn't right now. More to come though.

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– MeanOMan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

yes, I'm aware of all the billing statements and everything.

But that is not evidence that he lied, only evidence that he was doing it for Hillary, which we already know.

It still comes down to if he lied Baker, and that lie tricked Baker into opening the investigation.

And the ONLY evidence for the above charge was Baker's testimony.

Baker admitted that he knew Sussman worked for Hillary, and also admitted meeting with that team many times with the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

Remember also that Sussman and Baker are friends, their families have ties, got to same church, and kids are friends. They communicate outside of work. They are a family.

You don't find it strange they are still best friends? If a friend of yours came into your office and tricked you into opening an investigation on false pretenses, causing you to lose your job and be under investigation for years, there would be no animosity?

please... this was all planned out in advance... Baker knew what was happening when Sussman walked into the office. He already knew what Sussman was bringing to him, so he didn't record any of that handoff, which is also against standard operating practices.

Even if I am wrong... If I can be convinced of this by Sussman's lawyers, don't you think 8 democrats could be as well? There was even an admitted Trump hater on the jury and in the deliberation room, so this thing really had no chance.

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– MeanOMan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

One more quick question to ask yourself....

What if Baker had a conversation with Elias over the phone, and Elias asked Baker if he would lie to the Bureau to get the investigation opened.

Baker tells Elias to send a patsy by the office with the evidence, and he'll do the rest...

So Elias sends Sussman over with the evidence, and says nothing about working for Hillary.... What this entire plan was concocted by Elias and Baker?

Plausible? FUCK YES its not just plausible, there was a lot of testimony in the trial that came out that could support it.

Is Sussman guilty if that took place?

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– Tewdryg 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It doesn't matter how factual this is. The question is it relevant to the charge made against Sussman. No.

It appears the FBI had an office at Perkin Coie. Is it relevant to the charge against Sussman? No.

There's more to come though with more indictments. The FBI looks like they have some 'splainin' to do.

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– MeanOMan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm not convinced there are more indictments to come. Could be, or maybe they knew it was a long shot, but needed to at least show an attempt convicting someone since he's spent years on it.

It's possible these Lawyers covered their tracks well enough to allude justice.

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– GhostOfReeeev 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

FUBAR

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– queue-anon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Military is the only way period

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– NooneFor2024II 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Which part of the military because it's pretty cucked the hell up right now. The US military? Which branch?

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– Jackdagger 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Is this part of military is the only way or part of slowly building facts from many separate cases and dropping the Hammer?

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– purkiss80 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I'm leaning towards the second part of your statement...Building facts etc...

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– queue-anon 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Civil war or military only way. Precipice has to be reached

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– BitcoinPatriot 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Time for the FISA vaccine

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– ToxicLibertyism 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Ok. This means that Sussmann was "officially" telling the truth when he claims that he passed the fake evidence to the FIB. Even though we all "know" he is lying, officially, his story of passing fake evidence to the FIB as a "concerned citizen" is now etched in stone [legally] as a fact. So what does it mean?

It means Hillary Clinton is not connected in any way (legally; officially speaking) to the fake evidence that was given to the FIB. For all points and purpose's Sussmann just found the evidence laying on the ground, picked it up, and gave it to the FIB out of a sense of righteous, patriotic duty- and, it is only a coincidence that he worked for HRC, and that the dossier was very helpful to HRC.
That is what this acquittal means, in a nutshell. But that is not the only thing it means, not by long shot, and the dynamics of the entire SC investigation have now been changed.

This also means that the FIB was in possession of fabricated evidence from a source they "legitimately believed" was NOT acting on behalf of Hillary. I wonder if the FBi had a good reason to believe that Sussmann was not passing fake evidence on behalf of HRC, because the FBI already knew who the real source of the fake evidence was?

So who does Durham target next? FBI? Process of elimination. If Sussmann, and by extension HRC are not officially the source of the Alfa Bank data, then who is? Did the source of the fabricated evidence set-up, or frame poor little Sussmann with that fake evidence? If so, who could that be...?

TL;DR: I think Durham is prepared to play the hand he was dealt by this verdict, and I expect future trials will reveal more contradictions from the alibi's of defendants. More lies will work to further a bigger, and stronger RICO conspiracy case.

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– Bigfred 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Ok, here is to all kinds of mojo on your thoughts.

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– queue-anon 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I’ve legit knew once trump lost the election that military would be the only way.

Also keeping in mind that the precipice (moment of destruction) has to be reached.

Those 2 things keep me sane. Q literally said it!

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– Make_It_So 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Hello precipice my old friend.

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– queue-anon 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The worse things get the more I know we are getting closer to the precipice so it’s all good to me

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– Iwata 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Why would anyone be in panic mode when their enemy is still “waiting YEARS” for results?

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– queue-anon 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

There’s so much happenings. Biggest publically known habbening is Russia taking out one of the most corrupt shithole countries called Ukraine. Politicians losing their shit over it.

Trump isn’t worried about anything he’s happy and joking at rallys . More proof we are going as expected.

I wonder if there are sleeper doomers on this forum to destroy morale. I think positivity has an effect on these satanic forces. It is a spiritual battle as well.

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– Bitpad 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Does this accordingly then, set the precedent that we can now Lie to the FBI and get away with it, because we have More important things to do?

Should Gen. Flynn now use the Sussman defense to say, that he cannot be held liable to "lying" to the FBI because the country has better things to do?

Way to go District of Corruption. The precedent that you set is a dangerous one.

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– Scotty1954 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Ultra MAGA AwakenedOutlaw @AwakenedOutlaw 2h

Unlike the #Sussmann trial which the fake news media "shockingly" failed to cover, they're sure as hell going to cover the verdict.

And maybe that's the point.

Do you honestly believe that the largest take-down in the history of man was gonna hinge on the guy who bought and billed a couple of USB drives?

Really?

C'mon, man.

I for one am still on #DurhamWatch because he's nowhere close to done. Don't allow yourselves to suffer when you don't yet have all the facts.

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– young_roshi 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Military is the only way, right?

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– Tooshort 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I don’t believe that shit anymore.

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– dfgjkdf 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Those are probably for us.

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– CMAnon 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Who's going to prosecute them? Like suddenly the whole corrupt DOJ decides to act all righteous and start diligently prosecuting their friends and cohorts?

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– 5547 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Stop dooming... we got what we needed. HRC involvement. Lose an insignificant battle to get to the real target. Remember How fo you present evidence legally... it was well played.

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– NanaQ45 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Well hell, so now its ok to lie to the FBI? Hmmmphhh, who knew? Fucking commie bastards and their lack of ethics and morals. We are not the same. Scum.

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– QuackiChan 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Think maybe it’s to get all this stuff on record? Maybe Sussman isn’t his endgame goal

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– TheRoyalRob 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So Durham, our guy on the inside, has been investigating this shit for what seems like a decade now... and so far the best we can do is get Sussmann acquitted by a jury of Clinton doners and Washington insiders.

I mean the jig is up my dudes.... How do we expect to put anyone in jail, when they will just be acquitted by their donners and cronies? How do we expect to win any meaningful election ever again, when 2020 was so blatantly stolen and the only real investigation into the fraud amounted to zero real action.

Because this expectation that our government or it's system of justice will do anything to help us in this quest at this point is futile.

The sooner people figure this out, the sooner we can stop relying on some "plan" to fix this and start fixing it ourselves.

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I do think that We The People are the ultimate wrecking ball. Hopefully military, but if not, we shall have to do what our Founding Father's did.

Everything is written in the Declaration of Independence.

u/#Ridetofreedom

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– TheRoyalRob 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, it's nice to think that would happen... I'm skeptical though.

I just have to do what I can do to raise my child right and keep him safe.

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– DIAFhillary 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

For paid subscribers? ok.

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– MAGA_Patriot_1776 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Strange. It wasn't before.

Here is the archive link.

https://archive.ph/Ir4AX

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– DIAFhillary 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you!

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– LessSwampMoreMAGA 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Juries require a unanimous decision to find guilty. Anything going through the normal court system I have no confidence will have a just ending. We've already seen that juries are allowed to be threatened.

At least military tribunals only require 2/3 of the vote for conviction.

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– LambofLiberty 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

My thought is they all get acquitted, no one is found guilty, and this forces the military to act. 🤷‍♂️

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– QKek 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

LOL. What exactly forces the military to act? A long list of not guilty verdicts? How the fuck would the legal system working in a way that is seen to be 'functioning properly' make the military activate and force a take over of what is seen as a 'legitimate' government?

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– Iwata 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The military doesn’t act on unsubstantiated claims of crimes or drops from anonymous internet users.

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– QKek 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Your definition of ‘proper functioning’ does not comport with reality.

And thus the quotes

That’s the issue. The entire purpose for the military as the endgame is because crimes of such magnitude like 2016,2020 etc go unresolved and unpunished.

OK so when? How long does it fucking take? By the time they get off their asses to actually DO something, all of the people involved will have died from old age. 2016 was SIX YEARS ago. How many lives have been ruined in that time all for the sake of optics? Seriously? Optics and 'getting all the ducks in a row' is bullshit. You don't need fucking optics when you are running the show and you can get the ducks in a row any time you want when you are running the show.

Is this all fucking lies?

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– LambofLiberty 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Just my thought, since “‘military is the only way,” and I’m not convinced that means Russia, or only Russia at the very least. Seems pretty obvious the justice system is in fact not working properly. Obvious treason and sedition and a double standard under the law.

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– Karmaskeeper81 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Sun Tsu's Art of War

Step 1 - Engage target in a battle that doesnt matter Step 2 - Loose battle but only just. Step 3 - Enemy believes they are winning (We are here) Step 4 - Begin Endgame of the real battle and win

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