The military does not recognize Biden as POTUS. Fact.
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Question.... Was Biden officially sworn at this point - if so, this is really a "head scratcher"
As far as I can tell yes but I don't know the full context of the clip. Also reports he was blocked from pentagon and AF1. There is more weird shit going on than I have ever seen in my life. Either we are in the middle of the full scale push or this is an act they are keeping up in public while being arrested and crap
Well, we know he was blocked from the AF1 before he was inaugurated.
But we don't know at this moment.
Traditionally...
Wasn't Christopher C Miller in charge when that happened?
Well, now he's not, so we'll see
AF1 is the call sign ONLY when the president is aboard.
Before or after doesn’t matter point is he was and it’s never happened
It does matter. Chris C Miller was in charge when that happened. Now he's not.
But we shall know soon, I hope.
I have a question since you are former military. All these "clips" showing Biden getting disrespect regarding AF!, the 21 gun salute, nuclear football, Marines not saluting, etc. Are maybe we taking parts of these clips to confirm our side of what's going on? Could we just not be seeing the whole pic? I am NOT a Biden fan at all, I'm just confused by clips showing what we "want" them to show. I also heard that Trump had the nuclear football go with him when he left DC on Wed. Would they have automatically taken it back to DC after AF1 dropped off Trump in FL?
I’m a Marine. Like the other military Pede above said, the clip showing the Marines not saluting Biden was the nail in the coffin for me. There’s no way they would have done that just because. I watched the “inauguration” and that clip happened AFTER he was supposedly sworn in.
There’s just no way in hell the Marines on Presidential duty would not have saluted Biden because they didn’t like him. If he were really President then they would have saluted him like they were supposed to then maybe talked shit about him later when higher ups weren’t around. But he would’ve still got the salute.
I understand your point and just want to ask this: for the Marines not to salute, they would have been told not to by someone. And those who turned their back would also have to be aware that Biden is not being accepted as a legit president and therefore advised to turn their backs. What, in your opinion would they be told to prompt not saluting and wouldn't they wonder why? Or if Biden is in fact, not viewed a legit by the military, wouldn't this be common knowledge among all the troops? I guess I'm just trying to figure out why they aren't talking about it and why it hasn't come out to the public.
Semper Fi Devil Dog...... I agree, there's no way Marines assigned Presidential duty would openly disrespect the President of the United States.....
We're taught to respect/salute the Rank, not the person. That also applied to foreign officers, both ally and enemy.
Look at POW camps during WW2
The Marines "protocol" is slightly different from the other branches - if I remember correctly, you do not salute if You're out of uniform or not wearing your cover.
The media said that there are multiple nuclear footballs and potatus was given one at noon on the 20th. If true, you can't judge anything by the location of any football, because you don't know which one is active. I suspect this is disinformation, so we can't draw any conclusion from Trump taking it with him to FL
True. Trump could also be telling Biden that he accidentally "misplaced" AF1, and if he's patient, he just knows it'll turn up eventually ...
Maybe he parked it at is "other" mansions or something ... and Biden's so mentally far gone, that he believes him, because Biden definitely knows a thing or two about losing stuff / forgetting ... :)
Re: your question, it looks like Biden did in fact receive a 21-gun salute...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/national-international/presidential-salute-battery-marks-bidens-inauguration-with-21-gun-salute/2283979/%3famp
He did receive a salute, however that is not the point of this thread. It was the manner, form and what that form represents that is being pointed out.
That was a short clip that did not show all the shots.
https://www.wfmz.com/news/cnn/us-national/trump-farewell-21-gun-salute/video_5f93a17a-3ac9-5a23-92ac-40199ae779c5.html
youre wrong. this is a 21 gun salute. notice the difference?
Yeah weird it's almost like that's all Q has ever been since the very beginning. Confirmation bias taken to the extreme. You're so close to self-awareness, but not quite there yet.
I think the marines were at the door as Biden entered the White House. I dont believe he enters the White House before he is inaugurated as President.
Pretty sure I saw him walk out the door past the Marines who just stood there. Gotta watch it again I spose to verify, but it did really stand out to me.
White House was last stop
10 minutes early...cant have 2 Presidents at the same time. Nullifies the act in my thinking.
The timing is irrelevant. The Constitution simply states that the prior term ends at noon on the 20th. There is no mandated time for when the oath is to be taken by the successor. The only requirement is that they must take the oath before assuming office. It could be taken after the date and time of "transition" (see Zachary Taylor, for instance), but the successor isn't technically POTUS until he takes the oath. Also, nothing prevents the successor from taking the oath early, whether it's 10 minutes, 10 hours or 10 days. They just can't assume office until the expiration of the predecessor's term. So the theory that Trump took the oath early on the 11th, would be plausible as constitutionally valid if say, SCOTUS decided tomorrow that he actually won.
Have we ever had a president sworn in before the term of the previous president ended though? Even if nothing had prevented it, has it ever been done?
Nope, it's never been done before.
This is true. The timing/necessity of the oath to assume presidential powers has been a subject of debate for centuries.... for example, if LBJ had needed to make a crucial decision after JFK's moment of death but before they found someone to administer the oath to him would he have been able to, etc.
While there was nothing wrong with Biden taking the oath ten minutes early, it was yet another odd thing about a day filled with very odd things. Not illegal or improper, but it could be significant.
The 20th amendment where it states that the term ends at noon on the 20th, was approved by the 72nd Congress, March 2, 1932, a congress AFTER the Corporation of the UNITED STATES debacle.
The Constitution of the Nation of the United States does not include this amendment.
While I agree with the theory of illegal incorporation of DC in 1871, the problem is that all Amendments to the Constitution if ratified by the required number of states, must be considered part of the Constitution. Even if we are to argue that the Congresses since 1871 are of questionable legality, the states still ratified the Amendments nonetheless, and nobody is questioning the legality of the state governments. Where a lot of this 1871 incorporation theory gets lost, is that only DC was incorporated. The Congress had technically always been legal, at least in the sense that they states have constitutionally (barring fraud) elected and appointed representatives to go to the Capital. The problem is that DC is technically no longer sovereign territory of the United States Republic. So essentially, the Congress has been legally operating, but unfortunately on foreign territory, where they've been held hostage.
Dosent matter they could have sworn him in at 12am only difference is he couldn’t act as a president until 12pm The constitution Does not detail those things so they can do what they want or follow the “tradition”
Prove that statement then. This will be interesting.
Yes he was.
The clip is labelled everywhere as "Biden entering the Capitol" (not the WH), in all livestreams it is before the inauguration. What makes you think it is after the inauguration?
Edit: Perhas we are talking about different clips, I'm sorry for coming across as belligerent. The clip I was talking about is this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21BU0YK0cO4&ab_channel=CNN which was before the inauguration. Others seem to write about another clip in front of the WH?
Biden was told in his earpiece to “Salute the Marines.” So, as told before, he repeated what his handler said in the earpiece.
We don't know what he heard on is earpiece. Maybe the earpiece person knows he isn't legit & to avoid bad optics told Biden "Don't salute marines" and Biden just repeated the last part.
I heard "Good looking Marines" when I originally saw that video myself. Does he even have a earpiece? I suggest watching it again.
I guess he likes the good looking marines.
The alleged ear-piece-fail is here at pretty much 30:00: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfZGNcseZ1c&ab_channel=SkyNewsSkyNewsBest%C3%A4tigt before inauguration. This is also the clip usually cited as proof for Marines refusing to salute/Biden refusing to salute. I'm not sure the "salute the marines" line makes sense, since the president elect would probably (but I don't know!) not be expected to salute anyway? Is the president elect not simply a civilian before inauguration?
No, it just means Biden took the oath early. Nothing in the constitution says the oath has to occur after noon on the 20th; it only says that’s when power is transferred.
There’s other evidence the inauguration was fake, but that’s not it.
I agree. Plus, Trump took oath at 11:47 a.m. in 2017.