First, anyone over 21 can conceal and carry guns https://freebeacon.com/guns/utah-axes-gun-permit-requirement/
And now this https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2021/02/11/utah-house-committee/
They are burning down lefties Dreams. Utah is a beautiful state but it’s looking even better!
wish they'd stop electing Romney though
They aren't electing him... Dominion/Smartmatic is.
It's ma'am... how dare you assume my gender!!!!
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Oh haha!
My name comes from this silly inside joke with my husband and my best friend. We all have animal nicknames and call each other by them. I'm Bunny.... I didn't think Bunny sounded tough enough when I'm here trying to save America and ultimately save the world (doing my part, anyways lol). So I added Killer in front of it. It's also an homage to the killer rabbit in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. I have always loved that movie. And I identify a lot with that bunny. Cute and sweet on the outside.... but don't cross me or you'll regret it. lol
My husband is a gamer, so he has told me about that before. Lol it's so funny. I actually came up with his "handle" when we were newlyweds, and he still uses it :)
I'm not much of a gamer myself, but killerbunny is my "gamer" name as well. Although I mostly chat with him and our friends while they all play a game together, and I play Sims on my own lol
Never seen it. Not a fan of war movies in general. I don't mind war/battles are a part of the movie/show, but I need a bigger story.
Not a dumb question.
Salt Lake County uses Dominion. That's how Romney got elected.
He’s done here now.
Is he under a recall?
No, but everybody hates his ass except the faggot Liberals that live in SLC proper.
He cheated the primary but won the general. He'll be out next go around.
Good! That leaves CO to get rid of our two crappy ones, and 4 crappy house seats, ugh.
Amen! His record is so bad now that I think most their eyes were open. A month or so ago, he was confronted at Salt City Airport as a traitor just like Lindsey Graham.
I live in Utah and believe me we are all ashamed of him. Glad, to hear that girls sports will just be for girls.
I live in California and I know what it is like to be ashamed of our politicians; Pelosi. Schiff, Waters and Newsom to name a few
If it's any comfort, your politicians are probably fake, too.
Next get rid of dominion machines and Romney wouldn’t be in anymore!
There’s no place for trannies except in mental hospitals. Period.
New sport just for them..... "competitive wound dilation"
I don't have a problem with transsexuals playing sports obviously but they should have their own league like TNBA. Yes, I get it, "You are who you say you are" and I will go along to a degree but this is not right.
https://www.breitbart.com/sports/2020/01/22/transgender-mma-fighter-who-fractured-womans-skull-named-bravest-athlete-history/
It's interpretation is also unfair as the articles shows.
Stick your social credit score you know where. Bullet before vaccination.
Who was the lady who kick Fallon's ass? Ashlee Evans Smith? I just searched and found an interview talking about a fight she had with Fallon and she was elegant in her speech. Trying to be understanding about Fallon's position but also disagreeing about how it's not a really a fair situation and pointing out how it should be solved. Smart lady and brave stating her opinion.
If you have time, please let me know if that's the fighter you are talking about. I'm not against an individual's rights such as Fallon's but I disagree with her being allowed in the league based on gender. I can't even pretend to understand her position in a sense. I was actually feeling bad about my opinion in a way but I'm thankful you pointed this out. My thanks. My wife thinks I'm a sexist because I don't think a transsexual should be allowed to participate in sports with naturally born genders unless it's a mixed sex sport and all agree. It shouldn't be forced.
I'm in agreement. The pedophile murderers are the ones that need to be caught and punished. That's the focus for me when it comes to Q. Lots of insane people in the world that don't hurt children so I don't care about them.
You do have a point about the mentally ill situation going on and there are professionals who have been cancelled because of that view. I just don't want the distraction of the discussion.
Even Fallon Fox and the sports situation I left behind for the same reason. Sports will never get any of my money. Done with it. All distraction tactics. Our duty is to protect each other's children and destroy those who would harm them in any way. That's how I divide people now. You are either a protector of children or not.
Seriously, you never hear about these trannies wanting to compete in the male leagues and from these pictures I've seen most of these ones competing in women's sports aren't even trans but just claiming they feel like women so they can have an unfair advantage.
Wow. It’s been a while since my state made mr proud. Those are both awesome.
It is. 3 years ago spent a week doing Zion, Bryce, Capital Reef, Natural Bridges and Arches. It is most definitely a destination point if the Southwest is on you bucket list of beautiful areas to see in US.
We have five National Parks in the lower part of the state.
Still is on my bucket list but that's on hold as I'm not going to wear a damn mask in a national park!
I still love it here. Mitt will be gone soon I can feel it.
Can we get a locker room ban too?
Yay!
Utah set to ban males from female sports.
I drove through there last year before the Kung Flu hit.
Awesome state, got myself a fridge magnetic Confederate flag to preserve American history.
And I'm a naturalized beaner ??
Give me a heart beat law and I’ll consider moving
Good.
Some place somewhere Romney is having an existential crisis.
utah being based again it brings a tear of joy to me.
Wow!! You go, Utah!! Maybe you could get rid of Mittens next??
Good
As far as I know we still have a mask mandate
SLC is still full of commies, but the rest of the state is very liveable.
Just hear me out on this...
The rest of the 49 states completely invade women’s sports until there is no biological women left playing that sport. This would be the biggest red suppository for these women. Can you imagine if we did this in the Olympics? I personally would find it amusing.
Glad I live here. Also, Romney is done!
Yeah, looking better and better.
I would consider moving to Utah for both of these reasons. I am retired and can move wherever I feel FREE. Let me know the ideal spot to move, ie: not too hot, not too cold and not a lot of snow! I would also be able to help vote out Mitt
We get a lot of snow. Some years like this one not so much but when we do it is a ton.
Winter can get down to - 2-10 as well, cold but not horrible
At. George or Hurricane have mild weather in the winter. But it’s a desert, so very hot in the summer.
But the scenery very much makes up for it.
Big Mike not going to like this
Good. Biological men have no business comoeting against biological women, and visa versa.
I'm LDS myself, but I'm disappointed in the Church letting the extreme left walk all over them.
So, if I get this right, states around the country are passing their own laws, not listening to Biden at all, and blocking him every step of the way? Very well. Excellent. Fake President, no authority.
Oh for heavens sake. I know I’m going to get a lot of flak for this but the ability for trans women to compete in sports is a civil right. They are legally and medically women. Can you imagine the furore if you forced them to compete in the male arena in a full contract sport for instance? The horror people would feel at seeing a male punching, throwing or tackling a female for instance would not be good aesthetically and may even help normalise domestic violence.
A woman is a woman is a women, trans, cis and every other flavour in between. Let’s have some common and humane sense and decency.
trans women were born men and their bodies are naturally physically stronger. there's a reason trans women have been setting women's world records, they genuinely have an advantage over biological women. i am fine with trans people unlike most of this place but i understand why they don't want trans people in women's sports
they could all compete with the men, which would be unfair to them but at least not ruin it for anyone else, or they could have their own transgender league
I know this might be tough to accept, but men cannot actually become women, no matter how many hormones they take or surgeries they have. Sex is determined by the chromosomes at birth (either XX or XY). The sooner you accept this as biological fact, the sooner you can move on with your life and find genuine enrichment in pursuits that are meaningful to you. Challenging societal gender role stereotypes is one thing, and if you want to cross dress or act more "feminine" I say go for it, but trying to force society to mold itself around a false belief that you can actually "become the other sex" has got to stop. It's not healthy for anybody, least of all the countless transgender individuals who end up harming themselves when they finally understand that transitioning did not actually solve the core emotional problems they were grappling with all along, and in the meantime they often did irreversible damage to their bodies.
Your words are violence and do direct harm to trans bodies. I don’t believe you mean any harm in the least, but are perhaps just unaware of the trans experience. Gender is a social construct anyway so tell me why anyone should be kept in the prison of a gender they were wrongfully aimed at birth? Where is the humanity? Surely you want people to feel free to express and to be who they truly are?
Please explain how words can do "direct harm to bodies." "Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words can never hurt me." You are trying to intimidate and guilt trip well-meaning people into doubting themselves so that they will compromise themselves to lies. It is all sophistry, and it is a form of energetic vampirism where you cause others to deny their own perceptions and feelings purely for your benefit. If you are unhappy with yourself, then figure out why and work to improve it. I hate to tell you this, but no amount of trying to force other people to cater to you will ever make you truly love yourself or feel good about yourself. That can only come from within, when you choose to fully accept yourself regardless of other people or "society."
If gender is merely a social construct, then why would you bother going through all of the trouble of transitioning to a different gender? If it's just a social construct, then why don't you just ignore it? Why does gender matter at all to YOU?
Your own body isn't "wrongfully imprisoning you" by having a gender. Plenty of people feel uncomfortable in their bodies for countless reasons--that is a normal feeling that you are choosing to fetishize into a "movement" so that you can play the victim while lobbying major establishments for social benefits.
I have watched interviews and read forum posts with countless trans individuals who have lived to tell the tale. There are opportunists in the medical establishment who are making a fortune off of these surgeries that leave even the most popular and famous trans stars literally scarred for life both physically and emotionally, and the medical establishment doesn't even know what to do at that point because the damage has already been done. This is a relatively new and trendy phenomenon whose long term effects have yet to be revealed, but the stories I've read about post-op individuals are absolutely heartbreaking.
You are on this forum for a reason. Believe it or not, I genuinely hope that for your own sake, you will revisit some of these beliefs and see the garden path you are being led down while being used as a political pawn. And if you claim that words are violence, then surely you can see the violence in trying to force your own lack of self-acceptance down other peoples' throats and label them horrible things if they disagree with it.
See? When you try to introduce alien concepts like ‘energetic vampirism’ it’s clear that you want to veer away from the basic truth and into these obfuscatory concepts which allow you to shield your ignorance with high falutin terms that don’t really mean much at all.
Women are women and men are men. Some women were incorrectly assigned as female at birth. It’s merely claiming ownership of ones own body and of ones own gender and you should not champion the oppression of pure trans people.
Although it might seem against nature to you in your current morality, the same dehumanising and allegedly ‘scientific’ language was (and still is!) used to justify the oppression and discrimination of black and brown bodies.
All trans people want is not to be killed for being trans and to have civil rights like any other human. How many trans folk must die before they are recognised as human?
"Energetic vampirism" isn't a scientific concept--it's a metaphysical one. But it's a very real phenomenon and I'd like more people to become aware of its effects, so I referenced it here.
You can't be "incorrectly assigned female at birth." Your body is your body, and male and female traits are very obvious in humans as they are in many species. Doctors aren't "incorrectly assigning it" by correctly identifying your biology. Recognizing biology isn't "oppressing trans people." Feeling like a woman doesn't mean you are a woman. But of course you already know all of this as any young child with eyes does, so I really have to question your motives and intent here.
Again, you can choose to dress and act however you want--you don't have to conform to gender stereotypes. In fact, we live in a more accepting society in that regard than has ever existed before--I would think you would be celebrating and enjoying that freedom of expression? But it's not really about that really, is it? You just want to control other peoples' speech and make them feel badly about themselves so you can keep on posturing like some kind of victim and demanding special privileges.
What does this conversation have to do with "black and brown bodies"? Now you're playing the race card and trying to appropriate other groups' experiences for oppression points? You think people don't see through that?
Your original comment on this post shows that you do not care about actual women's feelings, so why should women care about your feelings? Why would you come onto a Q forum in the first place? Someone else told me you are probably just trolling, so I have to assume that's all this is. I tried to offer genuine advice and concern for your mental and emotional well-being, and all I got back was insults and false accusations about my intentions. I hope you think back to this conversation down the road when your own personal experience shows you that I was only trying to warn you what a dark path you are embarking upon in terms of your relationship with the truth. Be well, and I do hope you find true self-acceptance, but I don't have time for mean-spirited insults and disingenuous argumentation.
Quit your queer bashing. Quit upholding structures that perpetrate violence towards black brown and queer bodies. Transphobia, misogyny and racism have no part in a civilised society.
I guess you were trolling all along. Silly me for taking the bait!
At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
You have just stitched together some well known phrases. Those aren’t your own words.
You are very ignorant about biology. Fact is there is a shit ton of difference between men and women aside from external genitalia and reproductive systems.
Men have certain advantages they are born with, it happens in the womb but they don't really kick in until puberty. No amount of estrogen a man takes will remove that advantage, just as no amount of testosterone will gain the full advantage of a biological male (and one of the reasons why you don't see many trans men entering mens sports, unlike trans women vs biological women, they have NO advantage over biological men.)
There is a reason that womens sports are separated from mens. There is a reason that women sports like soccer and hockey have to train against schoolboy teams. Under 15 is the max they can go. Over 15's they basically get run off the field. Under 12's is a little too easy, so generally the under 15 group are the ideal 'level' at which they get a decent game and have a good chance of winning. (Although they do often get humiliated and beaten massively.)
First, their skeletons, and the reason forensic science and archeologists can identify whether a skeleton is male or female (and forensic science can even identify the race of a skeleton but that is another matter you'll close your intellect to)...males have larger skeletons, larger skulls and a lower center of gravity and their bones are much much denser. No matter what someone does to the externals, when they die their skeletons will be identified as what they are biologically. Got that? How does this immutable scientific fact play out in sports?
Pay attention now, men have not only larger skeletons and bone density, they have bigger brains, they also have bigger hearts and far greater lung capacity. This means more oxygenated blood pumped around the body. Men have 60% greater upper body strength and around 20% greater lower body strength. In addition, their muscles are not only bigger, they have more fibers in them.
No amount of testosterone a woman takes can replicate those advantages. But it is 'trans' women who are the issue in sports. No amount of estrogen will remove those advantages from a biological male (and yes trans are still the biology they reject)
Do you remember the New York marathon and how everyone was celebrating the American woman who won? The celebration was because it has been a long time since an American won, it is usually a Kenyan woman. Thing is many on Twitter were astonishingly acting as if she was first over the line. No, she was the first woman over the line, there had been about 23 men who crossed the line before her. Women cannot compete against men, get that through your head.
It is mainly young people who have been brainwashed with this ludicrous belief. You see it in the movies now, women wielding broadswords and fighting men as if they are physically equal. In reality a woman would struggle to lift a broadsword (fencing rapiers are different things entirely) but even if she did her wrists would not be strong enough to maintain the hold for long. She whacks that sword against a males sword and it will barely jolt his arm - he however if he whacks her sword with his it could pull her arm out of the socket if he used his full strength.
As a woman this ridiculous brainwashing pisses me off as a lot of young women are going to discover reality the hard way. It's like women are being treated as children and given psychological participation trophies to pretend they they are a physical match with men. It's embarrassing frankly.
Trans women athletes are not always genuine trans either, they are men who can't make it in mens sports and wouldn't even qualify. But if they claimed they were now women (don't even need to have the op, just take estrogen for a year which merely makes them weaker in comparison to what they were before, but still huge advantage over biological women). Throw a few races, so you don't make it too obvious, and before you know it you'll be getting gold medals and endorsements and celebrated as a strong independent women. Meanwhile biological women are being denied everything they may have worked years for.
I think they should merge sports completely and then reality might smack some of you in the face when you see women simply cannot compete. Again, if you look at female Olympic athletes, their records are comparable to the times run by college boys. But, all their records will now be worthless as trans women surpass them. Maybe trans should have their own sports and compete against each other?
Would you think it fair if 15 year olds competed against 10 year olds? That type of imbalance is essentially what you are advocating with trans competing against biological women. It is only your brainwashed 'wokeness' that blocks your intellect from seeing true reality, in favor of how you want it to be.
To you a woman is clearly nothing but external organs and reproductive system. Hell, even their livers metabolize certain chemicals and medication differently, as well as cholesterol, fat distribution etc. Men and women are not interchangeable no matter how much you wish it.
Perhaps you are the one committing what you call 'violence' against biological women by seeking to invalidate their identity and experiences.
Personally I see the trans movement as more about hatred of biological women than anything else.
Tl;dr
Just hope their not in the bathrooms as well.
Isn’t this about dark to light?
It doesn't matter if it's one transgender or one million transgenders. Moral principles are important.