I was reported missing once as a child. I went to the neighbors house and didn't tell my mom. She called the police. I don't think it's all that uncommon. I'd like to see a statistic on how many kids go missing permanently.
I did some research once and I think it's 300-400 per year. The ncic database is really misleading, kids that run away more than once or any changes to a report increase the total count.
I went missing as a child. I fell asleep under the tarp covering the motorcycle on the back patio. I just remember being so warm under there, in the afternoon sun. I was 3. When I woke up everyone was standing in the street talking. The police were there and my parents & all the neighbours. Even the old man Mr. Salvatore. Mr. Salvatore never came out of the house.
Humans and animals have more in common than we realize. My cat used to climb into the house's rafters because that's where all the heat rose to and then condensed behind the insulation.
Yea. I guess these would most likely be older teens that end up in prostitution based on how they define it.
Child sex trafficking is a form of child abuse that occurs when a child under 18 is advertised, solicited or exploited through a commercial sex act. A commercial sex act is any sex act where something of value – such as money, drugs or a place to stay – is given to or received by any person for sexual activity.
While any child can be targeted by a trafficker, research, data and survivor lived experience and expertise have revealed traffickers and buyers often target youth who lack strong support networks, have experienced violence in the past, are experiencing homelessness, or are marginalized by society.
But the overwhelming majority ARE found safe! Most reports are from parents reporting their kids missing when they don't come home from school, only to later remember their kids went to the game practice, or to their friends, or whatever. And some are teenagers who 'run away'.
If half-a-million kids went missing, per year, and assuming they are not killed (what would be the point of that), then where are they? How do you house them without detection?
Great point, to focus on the effect of a missing child on the school - no way such volumes of missing kids would go unnoticed.
There was a local story in my 'hood that a mixed-race parent was arrested because some 'child trafficking' warrior called the cops when they saw a dark-skinned adult with a white-skinned child; they assumed this must be a kidnapped child. And there was a story on this forum recently suggesting that mask-wearing is a ploy to help with the kidnapping of children, since by wearing a mask, you can't hear the child scream! Try closing your lips and then shouting at the top of your lungs - you don't need to open your mouth to make a noise!
All this 'child eating cabal' nonsense is diverting attention from the real problems of child trafficking.
Your questions - what would be the point of killing them, where would you house them - can't be serious. Either you are brand new here, or you are intentionally trying to mislead.
Well, first of all, are you asserting they are being killed or kept alive? You can't have it both ways. If they are being killed, what's the point, and if they are being kept alive, where are they kept?
But another poster on here just made a far more relevant point. For that volume of children to disappear, we'd be seeing several children disappearing from EVERY school in the country, EVERY year. There is no way that level of disappearance is going to go unnoticed.
This seems like over-reporting to me. That'd be over 9k kids per state, if divided equally (which I know can't be).
I know it's a problem and know there's pedos, I'd just like better breakdowns. I feel like I'd see a lot more people talking about losing kids all the time.
All that said, I could see lower income/those who are timid of law enforcement either not reporting, not getting the attention (news carers to beautiful and wealth vs), or being bribed/blackmailed.
What I'm saying is, I want to see more facts behind these numbers. ?
I would wager the majority of the ones that are actually missing are ones taken in custody battles, or taken by other family members for the same reason, to either protect the kids from a hostile parent or as revenge for losing a custody battle.
Having said that, even if its 75% of that USA number is custody battles, that leaves over 100K missing children, a VERY high number.
Thanks for a rational post on this topic. It's madness to suggest half-a-million kids are literally disappearing every year.
So let's consider California as an example. US population = 330M. California population = 40M. 40/330 = 12%. So CA has 12% of the US population. 12% of 460,000 missing kids = 55,000. Two biggest population centers in CA are LA and SF bay area. If 25,000 kids went missing EVERY YEAR, in SF or LA, could that go unnoticed? What happens to them? Where are they kept?
Why would 15-16 year olds be any different? They still attend school, they still have parents, and their absence/disappearance would be noticed. Think about it - 3 kids disappearing per school, per year .... (130,000 K-12 schools in the US; 460,000 kids = 3 per school on average).
With 71 million minors in the us 460000 would be about .6% of the total children reported missing in a year. That's about 1 for every 150 children. It would be believable that this is the children who run away from home or get lost if you take into account repeat instances. The real crimes are hidden within this statistic.
There were about 400k juveniles (under 18) reported missing at some point during 2019. But there were only about 30k “active” missing juvenile reports by the end of the year. Why? Because most of them are found pretty quickly: Teens who ran away, kids temporarily lost or taken by parents in custody disputes, etc. And, of course, many (probably most) of those 30k active reports as of December 2019 would, in turn, be found by the end of January 2020.
A fraction of those, of course, are real cases of stranger abduction. But it’s nowhere near 460,000.
Many are runaways or custodial interference. There's still 100,000 unaccounted by those categories in this country. It's interesting the difference in rate between countries, that India has relatively few for its population and UK-US-Germany so many.
Headlines, as you all really ought to know full well by now, never give an accurate accounting.
Whilst the number of children lost to trafficking etc every year will still be severe, it is nowhere near as severe as these figures. This is just the number who are reported missing each other, many/most of whom return within hours. This includes the numerous children who will wander away from their parents in the shopping centre etc. As a child, my little sister was reported missing numerous times. She had a tendency to wander off out the door and along the street for example and at other times my mother would run away with her. Other kids just run away.
Just don’t go bandying about these figures as though they tell a story of children who are snatched and sold into trafficking. You’ll need to do a bit further research yourself to arrive at that number. Do not spread misinformation and do not exaggerate the problem - it’s doesn’t require exaggeration as it is already horrific enough.
The math on this makes it impossible. There are just under 4 million births per year in the USA, if half a million went missing that'd be 1 of every 8 kids disappearing. It's just ridiculously impossible. The vast vast majority are found safely and the missing status was due to a mundane normal explanation. This does not mean that the satanists aren't raping and killing kids, perhaps thousands or tens of thousands even, but hundreds of thousands in just the United States alone is not mathematically possible without being noticed. Literally every single extended family would have a kid disappear if that was true.
Recently, a lady reported her kids missing. The cops were contacted and she posted it on FB. The kid turned up with a friend less than 12 hours after the report. How many of these cases turn out just like this? Which is why reported missing and missing are vastly different.
Thanks for your courage in posting this. There is so much hysteria around this topic and we need much clearer heads. There is a very real problem with missing children and it has nothing to do with satanic cabals and child-eating monsters / harvesting of adrenochrome ...
Doesn’t seem to be any statistics anywhere I can find on how many children are truly never found. Supposedly many are never reported missing. Then I looked into the child exploitation stats, which were appalling.
Keep this in mind. We don't even know if that number is legit. Look at what they have done with chivi stats, our election, and every number they have ever given us.
For instance they have been saying 11 million illegals for 3 decades. BS. Times ( X ) 11 by 3 then u have your number closer to reality. When they say a project will be done in 3 yrs it's actually 6. If they say it is gonna cost $25M it ends costing $75M.
I was looking into this recently. The reported is a different number to those that have vanished or been found obducted. In the UK a child could simply go around a friends house, the other parents often assume that the child has permission. Then if the parent gets no news they call the Police. Often the child just turns up. I want to know the figures of children actually going missing and they are harder to find and difficult to verify. The number is ridiculously high anyway.
I’m having my first baby in a few months and this absolutely terrifies me. I don’t think I will ever be able to let her out of my sight and I’m probably going to utilize those leash backpacks that I used to make fun of whenever we are out in crowded places.
I just did a quick calculation. There are about 130,000 K-12 schools in the US. If 460,000 kids went missing every year, that would be 460,000/130,000 = 3.5 kids PER school, PER year. So - imagine if 3 kids went missing at YOUR kid's school, EVERY YEAR! This would be the most talked-about crisis in our lives. Somehow, these things are supposedly happening 'somewhere' but not in your own school.
I was reported missing once as a child. I went to the neighbors house and didn't tell my mom. She called the police. I don't think it's all that uncommon. I'd like to see a statistic on how many kids go missing permanently.
I did some research once and I think it's 300-400 per year. The ncic database is really misleading, kids that run away more than once or any changes to a report increase the total count.
Like COVID-19 case counting ?
What's the motive in this case?
I went missing as a child. I fell asleep under the tarp covering the motorcycle on the back patio. I just remember being so warm under there, in the afternoon sun. I was 3. When I woke up everyone was standing in the street talking. The police were there and my parents & all the neighbours. Even the old man Mr. Salvatore. Mr. Salvatore never came out of the house.
Humans and animals have more in common than we realize. My cat used to climb into the house's rafters because that's where all the heat rose to and then condensed behind the insulation.
Same with me and quite a few of my friends.
I found this "Of the nearly 26,500 runaways reported to NCMEC in 2019, 1 in 6 were likely victims of child sex trafficking" https://www.missingkids.org/footer/media/keyfacts
Yea. I guess these would most likely be older teens that end up in prostitution based on how they define it.
While any child can be targeted by a trafficker, research, data and survivor lived experience and expertise have revealed traffickers and buyers often target youth who lack strong support networks, have experienced violence in the past, are experiencing homelessness, or are marginalized by society.
They'll tell you the overwhelming majority were found safe. I've seen them. That's their response
Reported missing stat alone doesn’t mean a lot.
But the overwhelming majority ARE found safe! Most reports are from parents reporting their kids missing when they don't come home from school, only to later remember their kids went to the game practice, or to their friends, or whatever. And some are teenagers who 'run away'.
If half-a-million kids went missing, per year, and assuming they are not killed (what would be the point of that), then where are they? How do you house them without detection?
Great point, to focus on the effect of a missing child on the school - no way such volumes of missing kids would go unnoticed.
There was a local story in my 'hood that a mixed-race parent was arrested because some 'child trafficking' warrior called the cops when they saw a dark-skinned adult with a white-skinned child; they assumed this must be a kidnapped child. And there was a story on this forum recently suggesting that mask-wearing is a ploy to help with the kidnapping of children, since by wearing a mask, you can't hear the child scream! Try closing your lips and then shouting at the top of your lungs - you don't need to open your mouth to make a noise!
All this 'child eating cabal' nonsense is diverting attention from the real problems of child trafficking.
Yea. Also 450k is what, 9k kids per state? That's about 850 kids a month. Your phone would be going off from amber alerts multiple times a day.
Your questions - what would be the point of killing them, where would you house them - can't be serious. Either you are brand new here, or you are intentionally trying to mislead.
Well, first of all, are you asserting they are being killed or kept alive? You can't have it both ways. If they are being killed, what's the point, and if they are being kept alive, where are they kept?
But another poster on here just made a far more relevant point. For that volume of children to disappear, we'd be seeing several children disappearing from EVERY school in the country, EVERY year. There is no way that level of disappearance is going to go unnoticed.
How many are found safe?
And we know that’s bs. I think that’s statistically impossible. The things they tell themselves.....
How do we know that’s bs?
I think you might be retarded. Other posters have laid it out below.
Exactly the response that I get.
Because it's a sensible retort lol.
Funny how it doesn’t mention how many go missing each year in China.
I bet they don’t report that info.
Of course they don’t...probably because the entire world would want to know what happened to them if they were truthful with the numbers
China would be especially bad because of the one child policy and people dumping daughters.
This seems like over-reporting to me. That'd be over 9k kids per state, if divided equally (which I know can't be).
I know it's a problem and know there's pedos, I'd just like better breakdowns. I feel like I'd see a lot more people talking about losing kids all the time.
All that said, I could see lower income/those who are timid of law enforcement either not reporting, not getting the attention (news carers to beautiful and wealth vs), or being bribed/blackmailed.
What I'm saying is, I want to see more facts behind these numbers. ?
A better statistic would be how many reports are resolved within 7, 14 and 30 days. But good statistics is avoided worse than free thought these days.
I would wager the majority of the ones that are actually missing are ones taken in custody battles, or taken by other family members for the same reason, to either protect the kids from a hostile parent or as revenge for losing a custody battle.
Having said that, even if its 75% of that USA number is custody battles, that leaves over 100K missing children, a VERY high number.
Best I can tell, the percentage of non family abductions is less than 1%. The majority are runaways.
The amberalerts have some of thar info in their yearly reports. https://amberalert.ojp.gov/statistics
Thanks for a rational post on this topic. It's madness to suggest half-a-million kids are literally disappearing every year.
So let's consider California as an example. US population = 330M. California population = 40M. 40/330 = 12%. So CA has 12% of the US population. 12% of 460,000 missing kids = 55,000. Two biggest population centers in CA are LA and SF bay area. If 25,000 kids went missing EVERY YEAR, in SF or LA, could that go unnoticed? What happens to them? Where are they kept?
What if they are 15-16 and "run away" from home?
Why would 15-16 year olds be any different? They still attend school, they still have parents, and their absence/disappearance would be noticed. Think about it - 3 kids disappearing per school, per year .... (130,000 K-12 schools in the US; 460,000 kids = 3 per school on average).
Thought about it, yeah, you're right.
There appear to be many trying to sow disinfo to discredit us.
An age breakdown would be good. A LOT of these are either teenagers that ran away. Lots of non custodial parent abductions too.
OK, so this page links to PDFs of Amber alerts issued by year. Shows stuff like average time to recovery, issued per state ect. Pretty interesting.
With 71 million minors in the us 460000 would be about .6% of the total children reported missing in a year. That's about 1 for every 150 children. It would be believable that this is the children who run away from home or get lost if you take into account repeat instances. The real crimes are hidden within this statistic.
If you look at the original FBI statistics these numbers are derived from, you see why it’s misleading.
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/2019-ncic-missing-person-and-unidentified-person-statistics.pdf/view
There were about 400k juveniles (under 18) reported missing at some point during 2019. But there were only about 30k “active” missing juvenile reports by the end of the year. Why? Because most of them are found pretty quickly: Teens who ran away, kids temporarily lost or taken by parents in custody disputes, etc. And, of course, many (probably most) of those 30k active reports as of December 2019 would, in turn, be found by the end of January 2020.
A fraction of those, of course, are real cases of stranger abduction. But it’s nowhere near 460,000.
1 missing is too many.
I’m thinking those numbers are way too low. I have heard 800k go missing annually in the US alone.
Many are runaways or custodial interference. There's still 100,000 unaccounted by those categories in this country. It's interesting the difference in rate between countries, that India has relatively few for its population and UK-US-Germany so many.
India I suspect is a reporting issue. I'm sure the very rural areas don't have a good reporting system.
Well this post turned into a dumpster fire
Don’t get caught up in the headline figure!
Headlines, as you all really ought to know full well by now, never give an accurate accounting.
Whilst the number of children lost to trafficking etc every year will still be severe, it is nowhere near as severe as these figures. This is just the number who are reported missing each other, many/most of whom return within hours. This includes the numerous children who will wander away from their parents in the shopping centre etc. As a child, my little sister was reported missing numerous times. She had a tendency to wander off out the door and along the street for example and at other times my mother would run away with her. Other kids just run away.
Just don’t go bandying about these figures as though they tell a story of children who are snatched and sold into trafficking. You’ll need to do a bit further research yourself to arrive at that number. Do not spread misinformation and do not exaggerate the problem - it’s doesn’t require exaggeration as it is already horrific enough.
I find it interesting that the number of missing children and the number of deaths from covid are nearly the same...?
The math on this makes it impossible. There are just under 4 million births per year in the USA, if half a million went missing that'd be 1 of every 8 kids disappearing. It's just ridiculously impossible. The vast vast majority are found safely and the missing status was due to a mundane normal explanation. This does not mean that the satanists aren't raping and killing kids, perhaps thousands or tens of thousands even, but hundreds of thousands in just the United States alone is not mathematically possible without being noticed. Literally every single extended family would have a kid disappear if that was true.
The REAL pandemic.
Reported missing and missing aren't the same.
Context matters and this graphic has none.
Recently, a lady reported her kids missing. The cops were contacted and she posted it on FB. The kid turned up with a friend less than 12 hours after the report. How many of these cases turn out just like this? Which is why reported missing and missing are vastly different.
Thanks for your courage in posting this. There is so much hysteria around this topic and we need much clearer heads. There is a very real problem with missing children and it has nothing to do with satanic cabals and child-eating monsters / harvesting of adrenochrome ...
Doesn’t seem to be any statistics anywhere I can find on how many children are truly never found. Supposedly many are never reported missing. Then I looked into the child exploitation stats, which were appalling.
Keep this in mind. We don't even know if that number is legit. Look at what they have done with chivi stats, our election, and every number they have ever given us.
For instance they have been saying 11 million illegals for 3 decades. BS. Times ( X ) 11 by 3 then u have your number closer to reality. When they say a project will be done in 3 yrs it's actually 6. If they say it is gonna cost $25M it ends costing $75M.
https://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/addressing-epidemic-missing-murdered-indigenous-women-and-girls Do these numbers even show up on the lists since they are a sovereign nation?! This is a huge problem in states with Reservations. In some of the states the Cartel has moved in and married the Native Americans (they don't rat on their people either) and it is a nightmare! Way too many going missing!!
Strange how much that lines up with the “covid” numbers from last year...
I was looking into this recently. The reported is a different number to those that have vanished or been found obducted. In the UK a child could simply go around a friends house, the other parents often assume that the child has permission. Then if the parent gets no news they call the Police. Often the child just turns up. I want to know the figures of children actually going missing and they are harder to find and difficult to verify. The number is ridiculously high anyway.
This page has pdfs for each year that help answer some of your questions.
https://amberalert.ojp.gov/statistics
I’m having my first baby in a few months and this absolutely terrifies me. I don’t think I will ever be able to let her out of my sight and I’m probably going to utilize those leash backpacks that I used to make fun of whenever we are out in crowded places.
Uncle Sniffy's puzzle basement.
I just did a quick calculation. There are about 130,000 K-12 schools in the US. If 460,000 kids went missing every year, that would be 460,000/130,000 = 3.5 kids PER school, PER year. So - imagine if 3 kids went missing at YOUR kid's school, EVERY YEAR! This would be the most talked-about crisis in our lives. Somehow, these things are supposedly happening 'somewhere' but not in your own school.
Imagine the amberalerts. It'd be so frequent no one would even pay attention to them..